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Do they ever come back? Devastated. Following on. Endless winter.

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Pleasenotme · 21/09/2024 16:53

Do they ever come back? Devastated.
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Pleasenotme · 17/09/2024 16:25
Long time lurker, occasional poster, nc'd for this. DH has told me he wants a divorce. I can barely write this as I am so devastated and struggling to keep things together. Been together 35 years, DC. I thought we had everything. Says he hasn't been happy for a while, wants to sell our house, have a new start. I know men rarely leave without having someone in the wings. He was adamant that there was no one, but youngest DD saw him meeting up with a woman not far from the house. It was pure fluke she saw them as her nursing shifts mean she is not normally around at that time and I was in Scotland visiting my DM. DD told me about this only after DH had told her that he is divorcing me as she had been worried about it but didn't want to say anything in case it was innocent. He denies an OW. Of course. I know this woman on a casual basis and have socialised with her as part of a larger group. She is married with two young DC. My DD babysits for her occasionally.
I feel like an explosion has gone off in our lives. I can't believe this is happening. He is like an ice man with me, a stranger. He has said the most cruel things. Our marriage has had the inevitable turmoils and ups and downs but he is my soul mate. I thought we would be together forever. I can't stop crying, I can't work - thankfully my boss has been very kind - I had to ring Samaritans last night as I was so very bleak and was having panic attacks and I didn't want to be here, I just wanted it all to go away. I know that sounds foolish and selfish. He has moved out and is staying with his sister locally. We are not close so there is no point talking to her about it.
I love him so much. I can't imagine life without him, I just can't. Is there anyone on here who has had experience of their DH doing this to them AND coming back? I am grimly aware of the number of men who dump their DWs during the mid years of their lives. I suspect I am clutching at straws but this is like an earthquake. I am totally desperate for this not to be happening. Thank you for reading.

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GigiGem · 23/09/2024 19:07

Apolloneuro · 23/09/2024 18:46

This is mumsnet at its finest. Lovely messages. @Pleasenotme There's dozens of ladies (probably) on here metaphorically straightening your crown.

I thought the exact same

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/09/2024 19:44

TheAverageJoanne · 23/09/2024 18:28

As for the holiday or break that was suggested, at the moment I can't imagine being far from home as if I am and he comes back, I may not be here. And I want him to be here, so badly, and me to be here too.

You don't, @Pleasenotme. You want what you thought he was. He's not that person. He's a nasty stranger who you can't trust an inch. He's never going to be what you want. He's damaged goods now.

Yes, this.

The man you loved is gone, sadly.

Can you access any professional grief counseling? Not to sound odd but I imagine any local mortuary could provide some names of practitioners.

fossilgap · 23/09/2024 20:05

If he came back and you accepted him, he would never be good. It would never be okay and it would never go back to where it was.

mcmooberry · 23/09/2024 20:27

So sympathise and relate to this, once had to abandon a trolley of food in the supermarket (and I HATE waste!) after a break up as just had to get home, couldn't even hold it together for the check out.
Please may that be the last time you beg him, you are what is standing in the way of his happiness with the OW, he will just be repelled by this. I know you are fabulous, we can all tell, one day he will know it too. Hold tight to that, his infatuation will pass, she sounds like a woman other people don't like and you are the opposite of that. Keep talking to friends who make you feel better, we will try to too.

BruFord · 23/09/2024 20:37

…apart from commenting that there was a limit to the amount of time I could stand in his way.

Don't be intimidated by this comment, there’s a process and you’re clued up on your finances. You focus on yourself. I think your idea about focusing on a smallish work project as a distraction is excellent. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. 💐

JustAboutHadEnough1 · 23/09/2024 20:43

Like many, I have been following this post since your first one and feel your anguish through your words. The advice you have been given is magnificent and I wanted to reach out.

This happened to me 3 years ago, although with my husband, I honestly thought he was going through some kind of breakdown. He wanted some space and moved into a friend’s house for a couple of months before finding his own flat. He put the entire breakdown of our marriage on me, and like a fool, I spent months beating myself up about what a terrible person I was, and continued to pray he would come home.

It transpired, after a year, that he had been having an affair and soon after moved into his new partner’s house. It was heart-breaking when he lied to me and pretended he was taking his stuff to his new apartment.

Name, I totally get it. I was absolutely blindsided. It is so very hard to reconcile the man that you love is the same man that is destroying you. I spent hours and hours trawling on the internet for what I could do to save our marriage. divorcebusting.com was a godsend. It is full of people that are going through the same thing as you – people who want to save their marriage. In hindsight, it was futile as he had already checked out, but it has some good advice on there.

I had to take things one minute at a time. Literally. I exercised, I didn’t eat (the divorce diet is real) and I felt like I was completely out of control.

This cognitive dissonance, when you believe two things at the same time, i.e. I love my husband, he is everything to me vs. who is this new cold-hearted stranger was what I found most difficult to cope with. I too, would be defending him and his break-down, loving him, wanting beyond anything for him to still want our marriage.

I got a therapist who saved me and started on anti-depressants. I’m glad to see you are starting on these too – hopefully they will kick in soon.

3 years down the road, people are correct. I hated it when they told me, but time does help, although you don’t feel like it possibly can at the moment. I’ll be honest, the betrayal and abandonment still consume me at times, but that’s because I have to work with the ex and see his new partner when she drops off her kids. It still kills me.

I liken it to a huge hole in front of you. Every day I would fall in. And then slowly I would learn to carefully tread around the outside. The hole will always be there, but I don’t fall in so much these days.

You too, will find your step.

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:44

OP please, if you swim can I suggest you go and do 20 lengths? Gets rid of palpitations for me. Sending strength to you 💛

SleeplessInWherever · 23/09/2024 20:45

My separation and the circumstances around it hit me like a ton of bricks.

I remember those days, nights, hours like they were yesterday. Looking back, I looked and felt absolutely horrendous.

It’s been a few years now and I promise you, it can get better.

I’m with someone else now, there is still the occasional thing that catches me off guard, the occasional insecurity around it etc, but who I was two years ago now may as well be a stranger.

In time, I learned I’d rather chop all of my limbs off than accept him back. Going NC apart from legal matters really, really helped that.

You’re doing great, take it one day at a time and I promise you can get through it.

dottiehens · 23/09/2024 21:03

I won’t be surprised if the OW stays with her husband. Why has not she ended the marriage yet? In any case you should not contact the husband and let her to break the news if she is going to do it. Do not do her any favours. Your husband is a fool to go with a married woman with two kids as young. He will have to deal with all of that. That relationship is taunted. Nothing that starts as an affair gets high possibilities of being long term. Wouldn’t your husband think she can be unfaithful to him too? He may become paranoid about it. I have seen this with a friend. The husband started to actually follow her in the car. It was too much and they separated shortly after that. Anyway, I hope you start to feel much better and can enjoy the drama that is going to unfold. Think of yourself and I,aging you are starting a new life. So many things can happen it can only get better for you.

Hurryuphumphreygeorgeiswaiting · 23/09/2024 21:12

Sending you lots of love and hugs OP. I have been wondering how you are and thinking of you. I haven't any words but please keep talking as we are all here for you. Mumsnet can be so kind and supportive and everyone cares. You are going through such a devastating time but I hope you will find your strength soon.

roseymoira · 23/09/2024 21:16

Oh OP, I keep thinking of you and coming back to check on you. As others, I can feel the anguish you are going through.

Go at your own timeline. He's had months to process it, you've barely had a week. He can't rush you.

Yes focus on your work project as much as you can, you must be mentally exhausted from thinking about this.

I hope you are managing to eat some nutritious meals. Sending positive thoughts as always

Nightowl1234 · 23/09/2024 21:28

I say this in the kindest possible way: enough now. You’ve understandably fallen apart but it’s enough now. He is gone. He’s not coming back. Start gathering yourself and your dignity together. Small steps. Onwards.

Ifoughthefight · 23/09/2024 22:07

Probably you married young and a virgin, dear poster. I married at 35 after already having suffered horrible heartbreaks. I married a good man and we seem are in it forever but ....there is this cynical and selfish spot in my heart which is kept only for me, for no one else ...you can get to that spot too and as I do: call it a man and leave it alone ( is and has been my attitude to all romantic things )

Josephinesnapoleon · 23/09/2024 22:07

As for the holiday or break that was suggested, at the moment I can't imagine being far from home as if I am and he comes back, I may not be here. And I want him to be here, so badly, and me to be here too

Op, I’m sorry but it needs to be said. He is not coming back. He simply isn’t, I’m very sorry, but there is no way, no how, no chance, he is coming back. I think for your own sake you need to try to accept this truth.

and you do need to be absolutely sure before you speak to this woman’s husband, as she has young children, and if you are wrong, it will be simply awful for you and you’re going through enough as it is.

as the pp said. It’s time to find your dignity now.

InSearchOfMartin · 23/09/2024 23:19

Nightowl1234 · 23/09/2024 21:28

I say this in the kindest possible way: enough now. You’ve understandably fallen apart but it’s enough now. He is gone. He’s not coming back. Start gathering yourself and your dignity together. Small steps. Onwards.

I guess it's good to think like that so the OP can move forwards with a life without this man. He's not what he purported to be that's true but I am baffled how he could have conned the OP for 35 years about who he was, or has he been taken over by aliens, as so many of the PPs' exes have done. They change into someone unrecognisable, but they can only dredge up what is already there about them, somewhere even if it is in their subconscious.

Thinking objectively about this man he's already spoken to and treated the OP like she is a piece of cat muck. There's no way he should be begged at all. He will be getting off on that, telling his woman about it, they will be smug as cats with a salmon. For now anyway.

When I split with my ex, I told him to go. He did, but I didn't know that he had another woman. He turned into a nasty nastier piece of work than he had been and he told me the biggest pack of lies in the world. Then he told his family and other people that I grovelled to him and tried to commit suicide as I couldn't live without him. Before he left he told me that he was a catch.

When I met him he told me that his ex before me grovelled to him too. It turned out that she had been in touch, but that was only about money he owed her. She actually went to Australia, whether that was to get away from him I do not know!

cherrysonata · 23/09/2024 23:50

Your husband is an idiot. You, on the other hand, are magnificent. At some point he will realise both those things.

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 23/09/2024 23:55

JacketPotatoFoodOfTheGods · 23/09/2024 20:44

OP please, if you swim can I suggest you go and do 20 lengths? Gets rid of palpitations for me. Sending strength to you 💛

Staying busy (ie. keeping the mind occupied) is absolutely vital.

I get on my bike as much as I can. Swimming as you do is another great form of exercise that is easy on the joints..its something I've never really done but I must do it. Physical exercise is imperative for mental wellbeing, especially so when the body is absorbing shock like OP right now.

Delphiniumandlupins · 24/09/2024 00:26

I'm so sorry for your grief and distress. In time I think you will realise that you are grieving the loss of your partner and marriage but you can't get them back because he is no longer the man he was/the man you thought he was. There is no way to turn back time and undo his deceit. So you can and will get through this because you are a strong and decent person. Your DC and friends will support you. Focus on yourself and what you need.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 24/09/2024 00:33

You’re doing well! Another day got through!💐

IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls · 24/09/2024 01:24

He isn't coming back OP.

Please find some radical acceptance of this so that you can start planning and moving forward.

The shock and despair is indescribable.
I actually wet myself when I found out. Sad I had no control over my body

BettyBardMacDonald · 24/09/2024 02:37

Nightowl1234 · 23/09/2024 21:28

I say this in the kindest possible way: enough now. You’ve understandably fallen apart but it’s enough now. He is gone. He’s not coming back. Start gathering yourself and your dignity together. Small steps. Onwards.

This, with all kindness, is the truth.

It may not seem like it now but you still have your one and only precious life here on earth. Don't ever, ever hand anyone the power to ruin it for you.

No man is that wonderful. They can be nice accompaniments to life but they are not the defining element of our lives.

Don't cede that power. There are still thousands of lovely moments to be had.

Squareroot · 24/09/2024 03:41

As I lie awake unable to sleep I find myself thinking of you OP & wonder how much shuteye you’re getting. And how well you’re able to look after yourself in general atm, which I suspect is not a lot. I know you said you’re shrinking with the D-diet, to be expected, but please try to eat something good even if just once a day. Your body needs its strength. Can you cook something up & leave it in the fridge & then just heat it up as you want? Or can your friends bring you food parcels? If you tell us where you are physically you know the mumsnet army would be there like a flash to help…

Billybagpuss · 24/09/2024 05:51

Grief comes in waves. Throughout your last thread you were starting to sound stronger. At the moment you are in the eye of the storm, but the waves of grief will get smaller and the moments of calm longer.

start by setting small targets.

Bestyearever2024 · 24/09/2024 06:52

I agree that he's not coming back

I also agree that should he come back at some stage (2 years hence?) , at THAT stage the OP won't want him (which she can't comprehend atm)

I think assuming that the OP can find her anger energy and that she can power through, so early on, is a stretch

However I agree that exercising is the key at this time

Run, swim, walk fast, HIIT, aerobics.....do something for 45 minutes a day which makes you physically absolutely knackered

Force yourself to do this

This will do the whole brain endorphin thing

Drink broths/smoothies/high protein powders

Are you on 50 mg of sertraline a day yet? Take it in the morning with a big glass of water

Do the above for 7 days

You can not imagine that life will ever be good again. But it will. It really will

I remember lying in bed thinking that I was having a heart attack because my heart was physically hurting and not knowing how I would get through the next 60 seconds

And life is SO good now 🥰❤️

Devilsadvocat · 24/09/2024 07:05

My dear #Pleasenotme.
I truly believe that you should stop hoping he will come back, because everytime you see him you will be hurt again so much and there is only so much a person can take. Your DH who you adore has turned into a horrible nasty excuse of a man and I hope your anger comes through soon or you will just wither away.
Im sorry to say but he dosnt want you anymore just your money and the sooner you see that the better it will be for you.was he that fantastic or was it that you had noone to compere him too. Please see a therapist as soon as possible and also good idea to go swimming as noone can see you cry in the water. I hope you dont think Im being mean its just that your DH is kicking you while your down and you dont deserve that. I wish I could come and see you and pick you up off your knees. No man is worth this.

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