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Fiancé wants to go "on a break" but I'm 36 weeks pregnant

538 replies

DogMamma2024 · 19/09/2024 23:27

Hi there, I'm not sure if anyone will even reply to this but I've been really struggling with this for over a week or so and I just don't know what else to do...

My fiance and I have been together three years and have had a really good relationship up until the past few months. We are suffering with a lot of external stress as we have an ongoing issue with a neighbour and an open stalking and harassment case with the police involving this neighbour. In the past few months this has intensified and my partner has been trying to shoulder most of it so it doesn't cause any issues with myself or the baby as we all know excessive stress can be harmful for babies development. I have noticed that our relationship has started to dwindle and we are more similar to being roommates at this stage rather than being in a supportive relationship. He is supportive of the pregnancy in so far as checking in with me regarding babies movements and how I'm feeling and attending appointments however, anything else is non-existent.

The past four weeks have been very difficult as he sat me down as said he can't take all of the stress anymore (job stress, harassment stress from the neighbour, family pressure etc.) and he said he was aware that he had been distant and not there to support me when I needed it and he had noticed that I had been feeling down and lonely but he just couldn't give me what I was needing. He then had said if I had not been so far along in pregnancy that I could have gone to stay with my family (they live 2 hours away) while he tried to sort his head out and get back to being the person that I fell in love with. I had said that obviously wasn't an option given my due date and I shouldn't have to leave my home for him to 'get better', but I can understand that he needs to make some sort of change to feel more mentally well. Since this initial discussion he has moved into the spare room and we are trialing some sort of odd 'separation' which I am struggling with. He had said he doesn't know if we should be together anymore and he wants to just see if he can 'get himself back' before the baby arrives because he wants to be the best dad he can be. I obviously want that for the baby too but I'm struggling to cope with how I'm feeling and the uncertainty that this is bringing at this time.

He has made a new friend, which is great, I have no problems with that and I am usually a very tolerant, chilled out person so we can go and do separate things and I don't mind. However, since he mentioned that he made this new friend (who is a female, again usually I wouldn't have an issue with this) he has been hanging out with her every night after work, so finishing at 5:30, showered, changed and out the house for 6pm and then not home until 9pm some nights I've started feeling very sad, lonely, unwanted and jealous. I don't understand how he doesn't have the mental energy to put into our relationship but he can go all these nice places with this new person instead? I told him the other day I had resigned myself to knowing that it was over between us and I gave him my ring back. He had asked me to not give up on him and assured me this person was just a friend. She has no interest in a relationship as her fiance recently left her at the altar. For as much as he says he loves me and he is positive about the future and everything will settle when the baby gets here, I have less hope than that. I know babies rarely keep people together and since we live in the same town as his family (and my support is over 2 hours away) I am feeling increasingly more isolated and that I'm almost 'paying pretend' that it will all be fine when the baby is here.

I guess I'm just wondering if I should set more boundaries in place as he's wanting the seperation, ie. Different bathrooms, he can do his own food shop, washing etc and ask him to stop saying "I love you" and using terms of endearment? I'm finding it so confusing that he says he loves me and then leaves to go and have a lovely time with his new friend while I sit in the house and get things ready for the baby.

I'm also starting to think if it was the other way around would he like me spending lots of time with some attractive man while he couldn't do things at home - the answer to that is definitely no. But then I'm thinking do I just give him as much space as I can (considering we still live in the same house and both work from home) and hope that he works it out before baby gets here. Or do I just resign myself to the fact he doesn't want to be with me but it too scared to actually say it?

If you've made it to the end of this I really appreciate it. The situation is so rubbish I don't even know what I'm looking for here, just someone to maybe have some encouragement that it won't end horribly - even if that just means baby and I will be fine with or without him. Thanks again 💕

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mrsfollowill · 19/09/2024 23:51

So sorry he is a total and utter wanker! How fucking dare he do this-prepare for life as a single mum. I'm flabbergasted how outraged I am for you- go back to your family for support. What a cunt to be honest!

Starlightstarbright3 · 19/09/2024 23:55

Ok ..

other than what others have mentioned , go give baby your surname . If separated do you want to move back with family .. if so do it before baby is born …

sorry he has checked out .

focus on your future but it isn’t with this man.

RedToothBrush · 19/09/2024 23:56

I'm sorry you are single and you ex is a dirt bag.

The baby isn't even here yet and he's complaining about the stress.

Soon as the baby arrives he'll feck off rather than have to deal with it and pull his weight.

Best to prepare yourself mentally for being a single mum because that's where you are going to be in a few weeks when he realises that he'd actually rather look like an arse than being a Dad.

Anele22 · 19/09/2024 23:56

confessionsofatrolleydolley · 19/09/2024 23:42

I'm so sorry you're going through this. As I was reading through your post I was waiting (but not hoping for) the part where you mentioned another woman and then bam! There it was.

It's insulting that he's not even hiding this from you to be honest, he's had his head turned but is still very much keeping one foot in with you by pretending he has nothing to hide, as if by being honest about who he's with you won't put 2 and 2 together. I can only imagine the deep chats they are having over her heart break and his life changing imminently, confiding in each other...Thankfully, you are clearly a very switched on woman.

Your baby, as you know, is your priority, and you absolutely can do this on your own - and should, if it gives you peace from wondering what your "partner" really thinks or how loyal he is. Don't let a man detract from the most wonderful moment in your life, the moment you become a mother. I say this as a woman who had 3 children with a man who it turns out had never been loyal - it gives you perspective on who matters.

If he steps up, stops seeing this woman, reaffirms his commitment to you and your baby and shows that he means it rather than paying lip service, then great. Until then, focus on the only people that really matter, you and your gorgeous child, because you will never for a second regret living in the moment with your baby and giving them 100% of your attention in the early days, but if the man doesn't turn out to be he says he is and you give him too much headspace, you can never get that time back. Sending you lots of strength and hopes for a safe and easy birth.

Lovely post.
loads of great advice on here OP and I’m so sorry you’re going through this.

Can anyone tell me why/how you don’t put his name on the birth certificate? Aren’t you obliged to? And what difference does it make if he isn’t on it?

offyoujollywelltrot · 19/09/2024 23:58

I normally don't think platonic relationships between men and women are an issue. I have several friendships like that myself.

However this screams infidelity, or soon to be infidelity.

You mentioned a stalking and harassment issue. What's the story there? I feel like we are missing huge chunks of information here.

Barryplopper · 19/09/2024 23:59

So your heavily pregnant, he's apparently stressed and he sees this as a good time to start taking his new lady friend on dates every evening? He's basically hiding in plain sight isn't he. !!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/09/2024 00:00

Oh these fucking men. I'm furious for you, OP.

I know it's easier said than done when you're about to have a baby but either this man needs to get a grip, like right this instant, or you need to put him in the bin.

There are many threads on Mumsnet where the OP mentions being isolated and having no support network because they moved away from their family and friends to be near their partner, the relationship broke down but they're not allowed to move their child away from their dad. Don't be that person. Move back to where your support network is. If he wants to actually be a dad he can follow you there. It'll sort out your neighbour problem as well.

Player5 · 20/09/2024 00:01

What a wanker

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 00:01

He's an absolute bastard, I'm so sorry! You deserve better. Kick him to the kerb. He is a despicable individual. Nothing on god's green earth should be keeping him from supporting you, caring for you and cherishing you, especially at this late stage of your pregnancy!

Kick him out, and choose another birth partner. He doesn't deserve to be there x

Howmanysleepsnow · 20/09/2024 00:02

So her fiancé left her at the altar? At least she wasn’t pregnant when hers checked out.
As a mum of 4 (2 husbands) all I can say is at least you know now who he is. From experience (twice): it’s harder when this happens once the dc are here as that adds an extra layer of completely undeserved guilt.
Make your escape now, or better yet, have him leave.

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/09/2024 00:03

He's an absolute shitbag. Can you move in with your family? Leave him to the psycho neighbour and his new fwend.

Saintmariesleuth · 20/09/2024 00:04

Sorry OP, this sounds really stressful. Unfortunately I think this new friend is the other woman.

I honestly think you would best to move to where your support is, accept that you have separated from your fiance and concentrate on how you can best manage as a single parent.

I wish you the very best of luck

Starlight7080 · 20/09/2024 00:06

This is awful behaviour.

It sounds like an affair but as you are pregnant he doesn't want to be the guy who left his pregnant partner.
Even if he did turn round tomorrow and said OK I'm fine now let's get back to normal..would you want too?
Knowing how he has treated you

Unreasonablyextravagant · 20/09/2024 00:07

OP you will be fine. You’ll find your way. I haven’t read the full thread but I’m sure this has been said many times before - get the hell out of dodge before your baby is born, get back to your family / support system before he has the ability to block you from doing so.

I’m sorry, ime your relationship is over so you need to prioritise yourself and your child.

EconomyClassRockstar · 20/09/2024 00:11

You're 38 weeks pregnant and he's coming home, showering and going out for pretty much the rest of the evening with a new "friend" who is a woman? Because, oh bless him, he's stressed. OP, this is NOT normal and usual in a healthy, happy relationship. Fuck him and his stress and focus on you. I don't normally get annoyed by reading threads but, bloody hell! This guy is a twat.

I'm so sorry, OP and don't accept any blame for this. This is all on him.

Teanbiscuits33 · 20/09/2024 00:11

If he feels like he needs a break before you’re even married, this is not a good fit. Don’t marry him for a start.

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 00:14

As everyone else has said, he's a total cunt.

You look after you and your baby, and leave the arsehole behind. Thank your lucky stars you aren't married to him! x

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/09/2024 00:14

Anele22 · 19/09/2024 23:56

Lovely post.
loads of great advice on here OP and I’m so sorry you’re going through this.

Can anyone tell me why/how you don’t put his name on the birth certificate? Aren’t you obliged to? And what difference does it make if he isn’t on it?

The principle is that a woman always knows she is the baby's mother, and the paperwork from the hospital will state that she is the one who gave birth, whereas you only have her word for it about who the baby's father is.

The law presumes that if the mother of a baby is married, her husband is the father. So a married man can register his child's birth if he has the paperwork, and a married woman can register her child's birth and name her husband as the baby's father without him needing to be present at the appointment and confirm that he is indeed the father.

There is no such presumption if the woman is unmarried. So an unmarried mother needs to register her own child's birth, and she can only have the baby's father recorded on the birth certificate if the man attends the appointment with her and confirms that he is the father, or signs a written declaration stating that he is the father which she brings to the appointment. The idea is to prevent her from just naming any man she likes as her child's father whether he agrees or not, and then that man having legal responsibilities towards her child. Otherwise she could name Prince William or David Beckham as her child's father and he would suddenly have legal responsibilities towards her child.

This means that if an unmarried man does not attend his child's birth registration appointment, either because he chooses not to or because the mother doesn't tell him when it is, he won't be able to be on the birth certificate and will have to apply to be added later if he wants to be. Ed Miliband was famously not named on his first child's birth certificate.

If he's not named on the birth certificate he has no automatic parental responsibility, which makes it more difficult for him to abuse the mother by doing things such as refusing to let her take the child on holiday or move closer to her family, refusing to let the child be vaccinated, or refusing to return the child after contact. (I've read a thread on here tonight where the OP's 17 month old child is at her father's house and he is refusing to return her and the police cannot do anything because he has parental responsibility.)

CutFlowers · 20/09/2024 00:16

Sadly I think he is hoping you will break up with him so he is not the one who has left his pregnant partner for another woman. That leaves him guilt-free to pursue this new relationship. I also think if he really was stressed about the neighbour and work, he would want to leave - not ask you to.

I think you need to decide if you want to stay in your current area - in which case I would ask him to leave - or if you want to move closer to your support networks. I am really sorry he is doing this to you.

Skye99 · 20/09/2024 00:16

I’m so sorry, OP. This is not what you deserve. I agree with everyone else, and I would definitely not put him on the birth certificate.

Terrytit · 20/09/2024 00:18

MollyButton · 19/09/2024 23:32

I think basically he's fallen for someone else but realises if he admits that everyone will know he's a bastard.
Sorry.
I'd get him out of the house. Get family to support you and plan for a life for you and the baby without him.
I also wouldn't put him on the birth certificate (although others here will disagree).

Wouldn't put him on the birth certificate....

Sevilletiles · 20/09/2024 00:21

He has made a new friend

ItsFreedomBabyYeah · 20/09/2024 00:22

I am sorry that this is happening to you at this vulnerable stage. Can you move back home to be with your support system? I think he's just dragging it out, stringing you along, so you don't boot him (sorry).

Lovefromjuliaxo · 20/09/2024 00:25

uhOhOP · 19/09/2024 23:41

I also wouldn't put him on the birth certificate, OP.

As bad as this man is at being a partner, he is still the father of the child.

Daisymae55 · 20/09/2024 00:26

What a prick. I’m sorry OP you deserve so much better than this!

Absolutely agree with the others about not putting him on the birth certificate and whatever you do, do not give baby his last name!

Forget him and do what’s right for you. Pick a birth partner who supports you more than that arse hole, move home or kick him out depending what’s right for you and focus on a wonderful new life with your beautiful baby

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