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Tell his wife - why it should be a YES

320 replies

Fedup46 · 10/09/2024 03:30

Will try to keep this concise..

Dating a guy I met on Bumble for 6 weeks... unable to shake my gut instinct something was not right (sketchy phone receiving messages, calls never connected, last minute date confirmation, seemingly busy most weekends and just a feeling) , he's in the armed forces so I accepted contact would be potentially inconsistent. Last night I worked out he is very much married (very happily seemingly, looking at his wife social media) he lied about name, where located, where he'd been etc.... discovering the truth was almost impossible but I persevered with Google lens on a picture he sent me and the rest is history.

So I challenged him, lies until he realised there was no denying it. He then turned unexpectedly dark and said he had my intimate pics and videos so leave his wife alone.

I expect many readers will say no don't contact the wife and I unreservedly and unashamedly disagree. And it's vital that we do if this is happening to you.

I'm 47 and been online dating since 2021 trying to find love and monogamy with a man.

I have encountered 3 out of 5 men I have been involved with are lying, cheating married men with no intentions to leave wife and willingly, knowingly and brutally ruining my life and abusing the trust and union with their wife.

On all 3 occasions I have sensitively and genuinely contacted their wives to expose them and have been so relieved to be thanked without reservation for telling them.

This behaviour ruins lives, it is scarily common, especially in 40's and I am amazed when I hear or read negative comments about exposing them.

I hope this is received with the good intention I mean.

Something is seriously wrong with this culture of behavior from these men and attitude towards the 'other woman ' who is a victim as well and only wants to protect and give the truth to the wife - it's called humanity.

I'll leave this here. X ✌🏼❤️

OP posts:
coldcallerbaiter · 10/09/2024 07:14

OP I agree with every word you say.
tell every time.
BUT
Check first, not after! eg. House visit, SM check, other checks before knickers off. No exceptions or excuses.

Globules · 10/09/2024 07:15

Fedup46 · 10/09/2024 03:40

Incidentally, a few weeks ago I posted about being paranoid or justified about the early signs of this most recent situation, I was mostly brutally reviewed as the problem, mental health issues, wrong and out of order for thinking the way I did. Turns out I was always right and would also say please listen to that feeling in your gut, that irrational instinct people tell you you have is very likely spot on.

Well done you on trusting your gut.

I too have been at the end of the MN collective drivel and pile on. And I too was right.

Too many users on here are unkind and would rather brutally pull others down than listen and support.

RockyHardPlace · 10/09/2024 07:17

@Fedup46

I’m afraid I’m in the no camp. But it depends.

If he had children, no I’d leave it.

I believe I had a father who behaved like this, and a very strong mother. I am one of three. My father died a few years ago. I think, as children - we would have been adversely affected had my parents split up. We’ve all been successful, with our own children and all three of us in long term secure relationships with our children’s Dads. We always had financial security (and we do now).

I have my mother to thank for how we are. I think she had to put up with a great deal, and ride a lot of storms. She is blissfully happy, and we visit her - we all get on, no family dramas.

I think you have to consider the lives of every single person when you reveal this info.

CarleyBup · 10/09/2024 07:23

If no women were willing to have affairs and all women were open when a married man tries to or has an affair, just think how powerful that would make us and disempowered men would be. It would force them to be decent.

Good on you OP. I do think you should let the police know - this might be one of many similar things and god knows what else he might do if he feels empowered. But only if you feel safe enough.

Just for the record none of my male friends have cheated on their wives (it probably helps they are all ‘geeks’ rather than macho men). They are all lovely, kind and thoughtful men in that respect. None of them are perfect mind. But there are decent men out there that are not total bastards.

DrummingMousWife · 10/09/2024 07:25

I would not contact anyone, I would say goodbye and block on everything. Trust me - the wife knows ! He has probably been forgiven a hundred times over. I would leave them to their mess.

…..And here is also the lesson not to send intimate pics or videos. You knew this guy for a matter of week and sent these things , that is not really smart.

housethatbuiltme · 10/09/2024 07:26

YOU don't have to tell his wife.

He then turned unexpectedly dark and said he had my intimate pics and videos so leave his wife alone.

This is a crime, just report it to the police. If his wife finds out when the police show up about it then thats entirely on him.

WearsblackLoveschocolateAvoidspeople · 10/09/2024 07:27

I am a firm believer that anyone being cheated on should know but I'm concerned for your safety. You only knew this guy a few weeks, you say he knows your address and that you have a child. You have no idea what he's capable of.

I have grown up in a garrison town and from a young age we were told not to trust soldiers, that they were only after one thing. I know several and most have cheated on wives/partners so that has skewed my opinion of them, I dare say there are some great guys out there.

It's obviously up to you but stay as safe as you can.
And I do hope you find someone trustworthy in the near future.

ChampaignSupernova · 10/09/2024 07:28

I hope you reported him to the army too for threatening revenge porn. Scum bag.

I agree with telling the wife. Hiding it just protects the person having the affair. Yes it may not be taken well by the betrayed as they are traumatised but rather say it than protect someone who has no issues risking other peoples sexual health and no issue ruining people's lives

Foxybyname · 10/09/2024 07:35

ThePrologue · 10/09/2024 06:22

Well, aren't you a delightful little public service?
You have no right to throw a grenade into people's lives, it is not up to you to tell the wife. Your job is to tell the man you meet OLD, he is a shit if he is married, then to dump him.
Who are you to decide you can break up the family? Yes, hypothetically, in an ideal world, the betrayed wife would want to know, but maybe they don't.
Maybe you devastate their life with your 'news', and they have no support locally. No fanily or friends to go to, discuss with
She confronts her DH with your news. he beats her senseless...
You tell her your marvellous news, she commits suicide as she is devastated...
You tell her, she murders him...

The ramifications are endless, whereas your glee about your personal crusade is bordering on gratifying, yet you have not considered your actions

Edited

Wow. Just wow.

I have no words at this response 😱

CallmeAlex · 10/09/2024 07:37

As one of those wives, i'm begging you to tell her but in the kindest way you can.
It's bloody devastating but the bloke does not love her and she needs to know.
My DH was caught in an affair. I then found out he was registered on hook up websites, porn cam sites and porn sites.
It's very unlikely that you ate the only one he's traded his marriage in for.
He's acted like a real schmuck.

Find a way of informing her kindly.
And beware of any online friendship and dating sites, the people you meet there dont come with references.

EdithStourton · 10/09/2024 07:39

Fedup46 · 10/09/2024 04:40

I hear what you're saying about pics, but without wanting to appear crass or slutty ( any pics I have shared are very tasteful!) it's empowering for me in a way and as he's in the forces and away a lot it felt like a way of keeping excitement going! - if you can understand 🤞🏼

So yes he does have pics of me although my face is not in any.

Maybe I'm misjudging how sinister the threat was - he deleted it very quickly, but yes this behaviour is sociopathic and I also discovered he's very active and senior with his Christian faith! Not very Christian behavior - he's an 'elder' which he also didn't mention!

Go to his church.
The sort of church that has elders will take an EXTREMELY dim view of his behaviour.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

ThePrologue · 10/09/2024 07:39

offyoujollywelltrot · 10/09/2024 06:57

Oh do be quiet.

Such erudition

ThePrologue · 10/09/2024 07:40

Foxybyname · 10/09/2024 07:35

Wow. Just wow.

I have no words at this response 😱

So devastating lives is acceptable?

Pelicanbriefcase · 10/09/2024 07:41

Fedup46 · 10/09/2024 03:30

Will try to keep this concise..

Dating a guy I met on Bumble for 6 weeks... unable to shake my gut instinct something was not right (sketchy phone receiving messages, calls never connected, last minute date confirmation, seemingly busy most weekends and just a feeling) , he's in the armed forces so I accepted contact would be potentially inconsistent. Last night I worked out he is very much married (very happily seemingly, looking at his wife social media) he lied about name, where located, where he'd been etc.... discovering the truth was almost impossible but I persevered with Google lens on a picture he sent me and the rest is history.

So I challenged him, lies until he realised there was no denying it. He then turned unexpectedly dark and said he had my intimate pics and videos so leave his wife alone.

I expect many readers will say no don't contact the wife and I unreservedly and unashamedly disagree. And it's vital that we do if this is happening to you.

I'm 47 and been online dating since 2021 trying to find love and monogamy with a man.

I have encountered 3 out of 5 men I have been involved with are lying, cheating married men with no intentions to leave wife and willingly, knowingly and brutally ruining my life and abusing the trust and union with their wife.

On all 3 occasions I have sensitively and genuinely contacted their wives to expose them and have been so relieved to be thanked without reservation for telling them.

This behaviour ruins lives, it is scarily common, especially in 40's and I am amazed when I hear or read negative comments about exposing them.

I hope this is received with the good intention I mean.

Something is seriously wrong with this culture of behavior from these men and attitude towards the 'other woman ' who is a victim as well and only wants to protect and give the truth to the wife - it's called humanity.

I'll leave this here. X ✌🏼❤️

I would be reporting him to the police for threatening you and using a false identity. What a scum bag. I would agree his wife deserves to know but don’t know if I’d be brave enough to do that.

CaptainKiddies · 10/09/2024 07:47

coldcallerbaiter · 10/09/2024 07:14

OP I agree with every word you say.
tell every time.
BUT
Check first, not after! eg. House visit, SM check, other checks before knickers off. No exceptions or excuses.

😂

Joking aside, sending intimate pictures to someone you barely knew is a bit of an own goal. I get the whole 'don't shame me for being confident with my body' argument, I really do. But....those pictures are out in the ether forever. Nothing is ever really deleted. You didn't know this man or the other 2 married men before.

Better to spend that minute checking who they really are than taking a nude selfie, however unidentifiable. Be safe online.

AgnesX · 10/09/2024 07:48

Three out of five suggests a pattern. There's something about this kind of man that attracts you which bears a second thought.

Also worth a second thought is the sites you're looking at. Some of them have reputations for being full of shits.

RedHelenB · 10/09/2024 07:55

LunaNorth · 10/09/2024 04:56

I’d report him to his seniors. I don’t think I want an amoral, misogynistic, morally corrupt, duplicitous sociopath like that in a high ranking position in the Army.

I mean, I’m sure the armed forces are full of them, but one less is a win. Fucker.

So his wife and kids lose out still further by him snagging around.

LunaandLily · 10/09/2024 07:55

XChrome · 10/09/2024 04:04

Good for you. Everybody at my ex's work knew he was cheating, but nobody had the decency to tell
me. Somebody could have saved me years of torment and a carcinogenic strain of HPV, but they couldn't be arsed. None of them seemed to think worse of him for it either. Amoral assholes.
Always tell.

Sorry you were so cruelly betrayed, but unless he was the only person you ever had sexual contact with (not just penetrative sex), it’s impossible to know that they gave you your HPV infection.

Humanswarm · 10/09/2024 07:56

Completely with you OP on telling his wife. Totally the right thing to do. As for work, And telling his superiors, I wouldn't. And that's not for his sake, but his wife and any potential dc they have. If he loses his job, and she decides to divorce, depending on her circumstances you'd be leaving her financially vulnerable also. Allow her the time to screw him financially.

madaboutpurple · 10/09/2024 07:56

I say well done for finding out all the information you got about him. Even if he is high up in the army there will be people above him and you could contact them. Hopefully those senior staff will take action.I wish you all the best with your situation.

Honestlymade · 10/09/2024 07:57

He then turned unexpectedly dark and said he had my intimate pics and videos so leave his wife alone

Yeah, I was seeing a man who within weeks wanted to take intimate pictures of me. He offered to leave my face out of them when I said No. he said it was a way of remembering me when we were apart ( which I found unconvincingly cheesy). He persisted over a couple of weeks in this request until I shut it down really, really firmly.

Turned out he was married too. When I found out suddenly the insistence on intimate pics made sense. Absolutely sure he would have used them to threaten me with if I tried to tell his wife. If a man wants such photos and then uses them for his own interests, this should be viewed as expected darkness.

He was a serial cheat too. Had an entire library of photos of women. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was part of some online community where they share such photos of women.

He seemed a really nice, gentle, kind, supportive, good guy too.

So no OP, it is never empowering for men to have intimidate pictures of you. You’ve actually given the power to them to do what they want with for the rest of their life.

its just part of this modern reframing of things that best serve men’s interests as ‘empowering for women’. As a general rule of thumb, if you are the one butt naked or in your pants, you are not the one with the power.

dottiedodah · 10/09/2024 08:00

Firstly I am sorry this has happened to you.Men are absolute shits sometimes ,For people here saying you are "old enough to know better" and they would never date again. WTF? They have obviously not been alone at all! Use this to move on and learn from it .I would most defo let his wife know .She deserves that

Waystation · 10/09/2024 08:03

OP - you say you felt something was off - trust your gut do the investigation before you start anything - I think re the photos - that’s fully your choice but maybe if you are thinking something is not right hold back until you are fully comfortable.

PayYourselfFirst · 10/09/2024 08:04

It's absolutely not normal nor wise.
Shows extremely poor judgement and a complete lack of boundaries.

Bizarre that women want LT stable relationships and think that 6 weeks in , with a virtual stranger, sending videos and pictures is going to achieve that.
At 6 weeks it's still at the dating stage
"Empowering" my arse!

Doggymummar · 10/09/2024 08:08

ShinyPebble32 · 10/09/2024 06:59

Hmm… I am clearly in the minority here, but why do I get the impression you’re enjoying this a little bit too much ?
Why do you feel such a burning desire to drop a bomb in his family life? Yes, of course he created the bomb but you would still be the one dropping it. His wife is none of your business really. It’s a shit situation I know, but is the anger you feel really all righteous indignation on the behalf of cheated-on wives everywhere, or is some of it your own frustration and hurt?

3 out 5 men you’ve dated turning out to be married is an astonishing rate, no one I know who’s online dated has experienced anything like that. This man’s wife aside - like PP’s have said, going for dramatic retribution will bring drama and perhaps danger into your life - and possibly your child’s. I would probably just be sitting down comparing what all these men had in common, so I could be a bit more alert in future and spot any married ones earlier.

I don't think it is at all. I had 7 out of 10. Most women don't bother about checking and believe the bullshit they are fed. You only have to see all the lists on here, everyday to realise this is very very common