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My world has imploded

250 replies

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 16:18

Just found out that my husband doesn’t want to be with me. We have three dependent children together. I have no family to support me here so feeling very alone and scared. I left my job to become a full time mother.
I don’t even know where to start.
any advice will be welcome.

OP posts:
supersop60 · 24/08/2024 09:24

Breakdown or not, he is mentally alert enough to have thought about and decided (wrongly) on 50/50.
So sorry this happening OP - please heed the advice given on here.

DysonSphere · 24/08/2024 09:27

OP I had a different username but I was here a few years ago when my DH left on the same day he said it was over. I was completely blindsided, Only peoples posts on here kept me able to even make it to the bathroom at that point.

People kept saying there was another woman. I truly didn't believe there was, as I knew him better he's a straight character and another woman didn't emerge. Years went by.

He met a woman and started dating nearly three years ago. We broke up around 5 years ago. I didn't ask much questions about the two years prior.

All good.

Anyway long story, he's at my house a few weeks ago to see kids (our DD just graduated and he wants the group photo) asks if he can use the bathroom, I say yes and he leaves his phone on the table where I'm sitting and a WhatsUp message flashes across the top of the screen saying something like 'hope to see you later' with hearts and my stomach turns over.

The name of the person is the same as a woman he had briefly dated years ago when we were on a break before we married and the children were young. It's a distinctive name. Not common for a woman with our ethnic heritage. He had also dropped in conversation a few months prior that the woman he's with is a few years older than he is, as he was joining her for a birthday celebration. The woman he had briefly dated during our brief break was also older. I hadn't made any connection. I'm certain it's the same woman.

Now he could have just reinitiated the relationship 3 years ago, but looking back at his behaviour I think he has maintained contact with this woman throughout our marriage. MN Posters were probably right.

It really doesn't matter anymore, but my ex husband also did The Script and acted like he was tortured by his decision, but he was also nasty.

So something - maybe not a full blown affair but something involving someone else, may be purely emotional for now - may be going on with your DH.

Also bear in mind that few of these men who are having a breakdown because of the crushing responsibility of kids and wife remain single after the breakup for long. If it's such a big burden caring for oneself and family, how is it they can suddenly find the energy post-breakup for someone else? A new relationship takes a lot of energy!

My question would be 'are you planning to remain single then? Since you're so stressed? Is he planning to have the snip to ensure he never has any other burden of children to take of in the future? How is a divorce less stressful?

You may receive a very defensive or angry response and that will tell you what this really about, as opposed to a breakdown.

Prriorayingly · 24/08/2024 09:50

He is not your friend, do not trust one single word he utters, get a brilliant divorce solicitor. You’ve got this @slowlygin take charge and draw your battle lines. You owe it to yourself but even more to your children.

My Ex left when I had three under five. After the awfulness at the beginning and what he dragged us through, things were so much better without him. Hang in there. 💐

Beeranddresses · 24/08/2024 09:58

If he is offering 50/50 he has probably had time to do his research and has realised you are likely to get much more if you employ a solicitor and the courts make an order.

whatever you do, if he tries to persuade you to ‘save money’ by doing a DIY divorce without solicitors, don’t. I know three women in real life who agreed to this and they all got massively less than they would have got from a settlement agreed by a Judge.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 24/08/2024 10:15

Speak to a lawyer

FlannelShirt · 24/08/2024 10:16

I did wonder as well, if he is going through a breakdown and looking very thin and ill, is seeking a divorce the usual decision in such a situation?

legalseagull · 24/08/2024 10:19

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 16:32

Thank you Catoo for that lovely response. I think that he’s having some kind of breakdown and this has surfaced alongside it. I’ve had a terrible year so far and this has completely shattered me. He said that he wants to sell the house and go for a 50/50 split and that I will have the children.

So in a family of five he wants 50% and for the other 4 people to share 50%. Jog on mate.

YellowAsteroid · 24/08/2024 11:13

slowlygin · 24/08/2024 07:10

My eldest has seen him breakdown and sob uncontrollably and is convinced that he is broken. Is very protective and supportive of him but distanced from me.

My father cried as he told us about an affair, and that my mother had told him to leave.

GivingitToGod · 24/08/2024 12:20

stayathomer · 23/08/2024 20:46

I’d also wonder what the story is, hasn’t nearly every woman had the ‘is this it?’ thing, they’re (women!) wrecked, overworked, feeling like life is just an ongoing cycle, is there a chance men have similar but think it’s realistic to change it all? I think definitely keep hold of all the advice above but I wouldn’t agree with the grey rock, I think you need to talk this out even a little but try and preserve your energy. Also contact family and friends and tell them. You need to get this out. I’m so sorry op x

Brilliant post

GivingitToGod · 24/08/2024 12:22

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 23:25

There’s so much more that I want to say but it is tricky as I’m paranoid that he will read this thread. He’s gone on MN in the past so I am apprehensive about saying anything too outing. I have talked to a few friends (who know him) and they think that he is imploding, having a massive crisis. He’s very thin and looks ill. he’s not sleeping and he’s very run down.

Can one of his friends talk to him?

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 24/08/2024 18:54

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 23:38

Our banking is online so we have little paperwork

You can download statements

S0CKPUPPET · 27/08/2024 11:55

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 23:38

Our banking is online so we have little paperwork

You can phone your bank and ask for paper statements going back as long as they have them, which is usually about 7 years . It may take a few weeks and there’s no charge.

This was one of the most useful things I did in my divorce, I was able to see a pattern of transactions that I’d missed at the time 🤯😩

Soretoothfairy · 27/08/2024 12:02

legalseagull · 24/08/2024 10:19

So in a family of five he wants 50% and for the other 4 people to share 50%. Jog on mate.

Cmon. Now you know full well that the children don’t get a split of the assets in divorce. It’s between the two who are married.

slowlygin · 27/08/2024 12:02

Thank you for the updates. I guess we all get lost and caught up in life. Men check out if family life and us women stay strong and hold the fort.

OP posts:
user9578 · 27/08/2024 12:06

slowlygin · 23/08/2024 16:59

He told me that he wants to still be my friend no matter what. He won’t be calling the shots on this. Thank you for the great first pointers and I will be taking steps to carry out these recommendations.

Namechanged for this but this was a red flag for me (along with a few other things you've said, about breakdown etc) because I had an affair (not proud) and this is EXACTLY what DP said to his wife when he was leaving. There isn't always an OW but honestly OP, having been in the situation this rang alarm bells for me.

YouMustBeHappyNow · 27/08/2024 12:36

Soretoothfairy · 27/08/2024 12:02

Cmon. Now you know full well that the children don’t get a split of the assets in divorce. It’s between the two who are married.

Spectacularly misses the point.

Geosmin · 27/08/2024 12:42

OWRLOSERS · 23/08/2024 19:12

There's most definitely an OW. Thousands of men pull the old...'still want to be friends, I love you but am not in love with you' stunt.

You need to harden your heart and put you and the children firstk...don't play a pick me dance if you discover an OW.

"There's most definitely an OW."

You do not know that.

It amazes me just how many MN posters claim to know something "definitely".

Ivegotaboneinmyleg · 27/08/2024 12:45

I have read this thread to the end.
I don't have any further advice.
I am only posting to wish you the very, very best @slowlygin. I am sorry for your hurt - I really am. You are strong however, and you WILL recover from this awful mess. 💐

OssieShowman · 27/08/2024 13:19

Find out how much maintenance he will need to pay you and the children.
Seeing as “you can have the kids”

Soretoothfairy · 27/08/2024 14:29

YouMustBeHappyNow · 27/08/2024 12:36

Spectacularly misses the point.

No it doesn’t. Judges do not split assets accounting for the kids, unless there is circumstances like life long disability. Past that it’s between the op and her husband. Child maintenance is for the kids.

slowlygin · 02/09/2024 16:58

A little update. he left home on BHM. Just working through the things that I need to put in place. It’s taking time as the children are not back in school until tomorrow.
this feels so hard.

OP posts:
LostittoBostik · 02/09/2024 17:21

Where is he living OP? Not that it's your concern, but I just wondered if he was staying with his parents/family or had conveniently found somewhere 'else' to stay (Ie another woman)

How about shared childcare for those still young enough? Has he made a tentative agreement with you?

Emmanuelll · 02/09/2024 17:31

I'm sorry you're going through this OP. I will say, though that it's quite irritating the way some people on MN always assume that it's going to be identical to their story and to follow a script. You don't know that 🤷🏻‍♀️

slowlygin · 02/09/2024 18:30

He is spending time with his parents for now. He is going to take them out for the day at the weekend.

OP posts:
AcrossthePond55 · 02/09/2024 19:01

@slowlygin

It's better that he's gone. May not seem like it, but it is. You'll find your sea legs easier and be able to make plans better without him 'in your face' when you're doing so. I know it's hard, but try to take a breath and feel the peace without his negative energy around you.

We say that any person has the right to leave a relationship for any reason. And that's true. But it doesn't make it any easier for the person on the receiving end.