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To be suspicious of DH .. CONT..

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JustMissNobody · 20/08/2024 14:59

Hi all,
thank you for your replies, hints and tips. I’ve read them all and made notes. I’m doing ok at the moment, a bit anxious about solicitors app shortly. Had loads of work to catch up today, my heads been a bit foggy and not been able to focus fully.
managed to actually get a good nights sleep last night. Got in bed with a glass of wine and started reading your replies and just woke up this morning with my phone next to me. I don’t know what I’ve been running on but whatever it was must have run out last night!
To answer a few ppl we have 3 DD. 1 completely on dads side, 1 on the fence but thinks I’m acting a bit crazy and need to wait till dh is home to talk and if there is OW then agrees its over, 1 totally thinks he’s been an absolute arsehole and his actions are completely indefensible.
I’ve made a list of questions as suggested here and got all my paperwork together.
ive also found out that his family have been concerned about changes in his character for a while and suspicious of his behaviour and been asking him if he’s ok but he’s just been snappy with them and been avoiding them.
so maybe MH related or aware that his actions will disappoint his family breaking up a marriage of all these years for OW?

OP posts:
LadyLindaT · 22/08/2024 21:10

I am worried that you will be able to get back in when you come home. It has been known to happen. You have been treated appallingly.

Gillbil · 22/08/2024 21:10

Hope you get a chance to rest x

Bumble6 · 22/08/2024 21:18

Have read bits and pieces of this thread and I find it quite disturbing for so many reasons.
I'm pretty sure, if they brought back public hangings, there would be a lot of people on this thread in the front row whooping with delight.

Wineaddict · 22/08/2024 21:19

Wantitalltogoaway · 22/08/2024 20:59

A bit, yes. There are some people on this thread who are taking it all quite light-heartedly, as if OP is going to be waltzing off into the sunset with a large glass of vino and a tinkly laugh.

Just reminding the people with the popcorn that the end of a long marriage and a possibly irreparable relationship with an adult child is not quite that romantic and OP is possibly quite heartbroken.

I get that, yes. But I took that post as an FU to OP’s husband more than anything else.
I do agree that some are following along like this is some storyline in a crappy soap though - waiting for the drama.
Yes, this is somebody’s life unfolding in front of us and some do need to remember that.

whyNotaNice · 22/08/2024 21:24

I honestly think you should be packing for real not making him thinks you are staying, just playing games. Are you actually leaving or staying?

Garlicfest · 22/08/2024 21:26

Bloody hell, @DreamCarpet, ten years of heavy therapy and nobody explained this to me. Just read a short piece on 'over-responsibility' and every sentence hit like a sledgehammer!
Thank you. Sorry for the short diversion, OP.

Bourbanbiscuit · 22/08/2024 21:29

I hope you manage to relax and re charge for a few hours Op, 💐

MrsPositivity1 · 22/08/2024 21:38

@JustMissNobody i hope your break helps you and you can relax a little

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/08/2024 21:39

LadyLindaT · 22/08/2024 21:10

I am worried that you will be able to get back in when you come home. It has been known to happen. You have been treated appallingly.

I'm sure she will sleep well having read that little nugget of wisdom!

It's her name in the rent book so she can force entry if so or get a locksmith.

LadyLindaT · 22/08/2024 21:45

I wasn't trying to be unkind. It has been known. I was left homeless from my own home. Yes, technically, you have rights, but, in practice, 50% of nothing is nothing.

Chatterboxy · 22/08/2024 21:48

Enjoy some rest & relaxation with a glass of something nice to drink. X

ThursdaysMonkey · 22/08/2024 22:00

OP I've been reading right from the start and I think that your well deserved spa will reinvigorate you and will give you some good space away from the home to get yourself together. Do enjoy it.

Caerulea · 22/08/2024 22:01

JustMissNobody · 22/08/2024 18:44

I had to contribute 2/3 of my earnings to my mum when I left school. I did leave home at 17 though but that’s a different story.
anyway, I’m going to check in now 😊

I hope you're having a bloody lovely evening! You deserve it

Incakewetrust · 22/08/2024 22:26

Enjoy your break! Turn off your phone and try to relax xxx

HardyCrow · 22/08/2024 23:29

No don’t give them an emergency number they’re all adults they can cope without you for a couple of days.

k1233 · 22/08/2024 23:46

Enjoy the relaxation. I'd suggest using your time to work out what you want. What would make YOU happy? Sometimes it takes me quite a while kicking things around in my head before I find the right answer - and it may not be what I was expecting. How do I know it's right? It really resonates - it's like a ding ding ding ding ding.

Don't worry about if it's right or wrong to want what you want, just figure that bit out to start with. Then work through what you might do to get there.

I honestly think you need to assess the situation with your youngest DD. Your home life must feel pretty bad, waiting for the next dig.

Harvesthome · 23/08/2024 00:01

KievLoverTwo · 22/08/2024 18:01

DD: Oh, do piss off.

I got my first job aged 15, started a week after my 16th birthday, and paid my mum £200 rent from my £550 take home. My mum had a lot of money at this point in time, it had nothing to do with money, it had to do with taking responsibility.

It taught me that rent was a financial responsibility that I always had to factor in. I couldn't party away £550 a month - which I very much WOULD have done.

Oh, and to the pp who hilariously said 'I should think you'd be grateful to be washing your children's clothes when they're home from uni' - that's how you get entitled brats, and kids who don't know how to survive on their own. My OH is 42 and because his mum never taught him how to do anything, still can't be trusted not to shrink a clothes wash.

My mum, however, had me hand washing my school jumper every Saturday from the age of 14, doing my own clothes washing at the age of 16, and on the few occasions when I was pre-14 and didn't take her seriously, and didn't remove all my clothes from my bedroom floor, I DID come home to find she'd chucked them all out of the window, just as she had promised. The humiliation of the neighbours seeing that meant I thought twice before not listening to her. Every Saturday, her, me and stepdad all cleaned the house from top to bottom, from the age of about 12. No excuses, everyone mucked in. During school holidays aged 14 and 15, I spent weeks going to work with her and doing a boring menial job at her work place whilst she was somewhere busy being important. It was absolutely, utterly exhausting (getting up at 5.30am! teenagers really do need more sleep) but I earned money and I learned the value of earning your own money.

Now I'm as neat as a shiny new pin and wouldn't dream of living with someone rent-free unless I was in real dire straights and they offered it.

I should think you'd be grateful to do your kid's washing. Christ. Anyone would think it's 1950.

I think I’m the PP mentioned and I didn’t say the OP should be grateful. The back story is that my DD had to take on far too many household responsibilities from a young age because I had a serious illness when she was 9 and I still feel guilty. So yes, when she came home from uni I was more than happy to do her washing.

Not hilarious at all really for a 9 year old to have a Mum who was bald and sick in bed for 7 months with several hospital stays. She has lived independently since 18 and has all the life skills she needs. She also did a variety of paid jobs so no, I’m not a soft touch, just a single Mum who feels guilty for the impact on my young child during an illness that wasn’t my fault. Of course OP’s DD should be doing her share of the housework.

Harvesthome · 23/08/2024 00:17

KievLoverTwo · 22/08/2024 18:31

Which is even worse. She should know the value of money. Having to pay for her own lunches, travel, clothes, glasses, holiday, car, insurance. How much people around her at work are having to pay in bills.

It's inexcusable for her not to even off her mother £50 a week towards food when her mother is putting a roof over her head.

The £200 a month I paid my mum towards 'housekeeping' was in 1991!! My jaw hit the floor when I saw the OP's DH gives her £100 a week to run an entire household. WFAT.

I totally agree with all this but there’s no point making OP feel guilty for her past parenting choices, moving forward her daughter should pay for everything because she is now a fully grown adult. I had my first job delivering newspapers at 13 and worked at weekends during ‘A’ levels and every single university break, waitressing, barmaid, chambermaid, shop work. I didn’t ask for or receive any handouts from my parents and I paid for everything I needed, did my own laundry, cooked, paid for my driving lessons and car. I was respectful to my parents as well.

Honestly, if I was OP I’d rent a place with one bedroom and leave the pisstaking pair to manage their own household. The level of disrespect from both of them is intolerable.

Harvesthome · 23/08/2024 00:31

JustMissNobody · 22/08/2024 18:34

Well I’ve arrived, not checked in yet. Sat in car on car park wondering what the hell im doing! And also thinking should I have booked something further away from home?
just seen someone’s post about others saying I should be grateful about doing dds laundry when she was at uni or something along those lines. I didn’t complain at the time and never minded doing it, I loved having her home and missed her like mad when she was away from home. I’ve never minded doing anything for any of them. I’m just degrudging what I do now because of the realisation of how am I and how I have been treated and I’ve been accepting of it. My own fault I know.

You don’t have to accept it any more, OP. I’d be telling your daughter she needs to find her own place and buy herself a washing machine as well as everything else she needs to make a home because you’ve given notice on the house. She needs to be independent and learn boundaries.

Yoonimum · 23/08/2024 00:35

Did you leave for your break without seeing or speaking to your husband? What restraint - I'd have had an almighty row by now! I know you love your kids but you've done them and yourself no favours. I do hope you can start to put yourself first now.

wtfactually · 23/08/2024 00:44

ThursdaysMonkey · 22/08/2024 22:00

OP I've been reading right from the start and I think that your well deserved spa will reinvigorate you and will give you some good space away from the home to get yourself together. Do enjoy it.

This

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 23/08/2024 00:55

@JustMissNobody

I wouldn't be surprised if after the week you have had, if when you sat down on the bed if you didn't just burst into tears and ended up sobbing yourself to sleep.

It's been quite a week - h taking himself off on a foreign trip / you visiting a solicitor / searching the car / dd not being that supportive.

and now, according to 50% of Mn your daughter is just as bad as h, or even worse.

I am sure she is not and whatever happens re her will all sort itself out once you have had time to think / decide re h, hopefully everything will fall into place afterwards,

try and enjoy your 24 hours +

Harvesthome · 23/08/2024 00:59

Yoonimum · 23/08/2024 00:35

Did you leave for your break without seeing or speaking to your husband? What restraint - I'd have had an almighty row by now! I know you love your kids but you've done them and yourself no favours. I do hope you can start to put yourself first now.

Having an argument would just give the husband and daughter the ammunition to say, “We knew you were going to be like this.” I think it might be a bit much to think @JustMissNobody will enjoy the spa but it’s some thinking space for what comes next. It can’t be business as usual given the huge shock about her husband’s finances she has had this week but it’s still heartbreaking to leave a relationship that still holds happy memories of when the DC were younger.

I couldn’t get past this and trust the husband from now on. He’s been so irresponsible, been bailed out previously and gone back to the same pattern. @JustMissNobody it is liberating to be single and responsible for only yourself.

CantGetDecentNickname · 23/08/2024 01:09

Really glad you won’t be there to witness his self pity party after his holiday. He effectively walked out on you so you are sensible in considering the relationship over.

When you do return please don’t listen to any of his crap. A simple raised hand and the word “stop” should work. It’s probably got past the point of you caring why he did what he did and nothing can undo his treatment of you. No cooking, cleaning, laundry or buying food for him ever again. He probably planned to give you the silent treatment and I am glad he doesn’t have an audience. Do please remember to comment on how lovely and quiet it was without him there.

With regard to your DD, it is time to show her your love by giving her what she “needs” rather than what she “wants”. Often called “tough love”, she needs to learn an important life lesson; that if you bite the hand that feeds you, it stops doing so. Do not factor her in to your plans for your future accommodation. She must either find her own place or her DF can provide (in which case she might learn what he is truly like as well).

I wish you well and that you have a relaxing stay. I also hope you are able to start proceedings on Monday. Congratulations for no longer being a doormat and knowing your self worth.

GetSomeNaiceHam · 23/08/2024 01:30

Good luck @JustMissNobody.

Hope you can relax at the hotel.

Take care and stay strong xx

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