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Feel that Dh friendship with woman is destroying our marriage

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gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 12:35

Dh and I happily married for over 15 years, 3 dc. 2 years ago a woman joins dh workplace and they gradually become very good friends. She has Dh and dc. Last year I asked to borrow his phone for a number and saw her name (he hadn’t mentioned her at that point) to my shame I looked and saw their messages and there were so, so many, day and late into the evening. They weren’t particularly flirty but what hit me like a punch to the stomach was the obvious closeness and fondness they have for each other. Things they were both interested in going to see. My dh and I have always had that great friends kind of relationship as well as being married so I think it especially hurt. I owned up and asked him about it and he was really angry I’d looked and accused me of coercive control when I asked him to reduce the messaging. They see each other at work so why she has to send him photos on a Friday night and of what’s she’s up to at the weekend I don’t really understand.
He has other female friends which I’ve never thought twice about but there’s something about her that feels as though she’s pushing the boundaries and it’s creating such a wedge between us. Admittedly I’ve been very upset and over emotional and it was suggested I go on ADs which has helped me a bit but I still feel really upset as though she’s always there now, in the background. He says I’m destroying the marriage by being like this and nothing is happening with them, they are just mates. Just don’t know what to do, it all just makes me feel very sad and that maybe I’m not enough anymore.

OP posts:
LisaVanderpump1 · 15/08/2024 12:44

It seems like you have two options here: accept their friendship or leave him.

You've said the messages are frequent but not flirty, he's denied that anything's going on, and I guess you have no evidence that something is.

Were you upset and over emotional before this happened?

Widowedwarrior83 · 15/08/2024 12:50

Wait your husband is sneeky and chatting late into the night with another woman....

And your the one in trouble and on antidepressants.

Seriously that's fucked up and he is a cunt. And he is the controlling one. You have 3 children you grew and gave birth too that's a power he can never take so go and remember that strength and stop taking his bullshit.

gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 12:51

Not at all, and I’ve always been fine with his other friendships. I suppose him knowing how much this upsets me makes me feel that he is choosing her friendship over our marriage in terms of what is more important to him. I guess it also makes me wonder why.

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Theweepywillow · 15/08/2024 12:54

Why can’t he be friends with her and married to you? It looks like just friends, but you want him to not have this friendship . I can see why he’s saying you cannot decide his friends. I would too.

why do you feel she’s pushing the boundaries. She’s not flirting, just acting like a mate>

Theweepywillow · 15/08/2024 12:55

gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 12:51

Not at all, and I’ve always been fine with his other friendships. I suppose him knowing how much this upsets me makes me feel that he is choosing her friendship over our marriage in terms of what is more important to him. I guess it also makes me wonder why.

I think he’s choosing being able to decide his own friendships rather be in a marriage where his partner decides who he can and can’t be friends with. It isn’t about you v her, it’s about the fact he won’t be controlled

Myfavouriteflowers · 15/08/2024 12:55

But it's not you that's destroying your marriage.
You are his wife and his primary relationship should therefore be with you.

You are uncomfortable with his relationship with this this woman and you have asked him to pull back from it. He has refused to do this and therefore he is telling you his relationship with this woman is more important to him than his relationship with you
.
You can't make him withdraw from his relationship with her but you can question whether you want to stay in a marriage where another woman is more important to your DH than you.

CuteCillian · 15/08/2024 12:56

Could a session with a relationship counselor be an option?
I can understand your point of view, and would also be upset if my DH seemed to prioritise a friendship over our marriage BUT what I don't know by simply reading the above is your general attitude to your DH's friendships and the (potentially confrontational) way you have challenged his relationship with his colleague. This seems possible when you refer to taking AD's.
Sometimes a neutral party, allowing the two of you to express your individual opinions, can allow a negative perception of the situation to be dissipated.
If DH has nothing to hide and wants your marriage to succeed he should be open to this.

Soshu · 15/08/2024 12:56

gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 12:51

Not at all, and I’ve always been fine with his other friendships. I suppose him knowing how much this upsets me makes me feel that he is choosing her friendship over our marriage in terms of what is more important to him. I guess it also makes me wonder why.

But you’re irrationally upset. I think you have to fix that. The fix isn’t him ending a friendship that he enjoys because you’re being irrational.

Theweepywillow · 15/08/2024 12:57

Myfavouriteflowers · 15/08/2024 12:55

But it's not you that's destroying your marriage.
You are his wife and his primary relationship should therefore be with you.

You are uncomfortable with his relationship with this this woman and you have asked him to pull back from it. He has refused to do this and therefore he is telling you his relationship with this woman is more important to him than his relationship with you
.
You can't make him withdraw from his relationship with her but you can question whether you want to stay in a marriage where another woman is more important to your DH than you.

this is a horrible post. Almost salivating. Of course his primary relationship is with the op. He is allowed other friends, doesn’t mean the op gets to decide who he is permitted to be friends with, when he can talk to them. And to snoop on his phone.

Myfavouriteflowers · 15/08/2024 12:58

Soshu · 15/08/2024 12:56

But you’re irrationally upset. I think you have to fix that. The fix isn’t him ending a friendship that he enjoys because you’re being irrational.

I don't think OP is being irrationally upset when her DH has told her this friendship is more important to him than his marriage.

Molop · 15/08/2024 13:05

My question would be, would he spend all day and night messaging a male friend ? Is that type of behaviour normal for him? What do you know about this woman, have you seen her picture?

I click with people at work and have become lifelong friends with some but it generally doesn’t involve daily contact and certainly not endless messages back and forth.

Lastminuteisinit · 15/08/2024 13:07

Molop · 15/08/2024 13:05

My question would be, would he spend all day and night messaging a male friend ? Is that type of behaviour normal for him? What do you know about this woman, have you seen her picture?

I click with people at work and have become lifelong friends with some but it generally doesn’t involve daily contact and certainly not endless messages back and forth.

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This!

ginasevern · 15/08/2024 13:08

If it's making you uncomfortable (and I can quite understand why it is) then he should prioritise his wife's feelings and not those of another woman. What's more important?

outdamnedspots · 15/08/2024 13:10

You are not being coercively controlling.

He is prioritising his friendship with this woman over his relationship with you. No wonder you're upset. I wonder how he'd feel if you had a male friend you were so close to?

His behaviour is making you depressed (unless anything else is going on). What do you want to do?

gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 13:10

He is on his phone a lot. I just genuinely don’t know how I feel about this all. He said very recently that he has reduced his messages to her now but he has also lied to me about meeting up in the evening with her (it was with a couple of others) so I don’t know what to think. My head is saying it’s fine! But my heart is saying yes but it really hurts that they are so apparently close.

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gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 13:13

In fairness he said he lied about her being there too that evening as it would have upset me and he didn’t want to do that. He insists it was just a group of mates.
But the fact he lied hits hard.

OP posts:
Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:14

gruffalo5 · 15/08/2024 12:51

Not at all, and I’ve always been fine with his other friendships. I suppose him knowing how much this upsets me makes me feel that he is choosing her friendship over our marriage in terms of what is more important to him. I guess it also makes me wonder why.

He is closing her friendship. I've seen this very thing before. It will ultimately destroy you guys x
They will at some stage get together.

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:15

Are you friends with his other friends? Why not her? Cause she's different.

FlowerBee62 · 15/08/2024 13:17

I can understand why this is upsetting especially feeling she's important to him .He's getting an ego boost from the attention and probably enjoying seeing you get upset about it,how would he feel if you were doing the same thing with a male friend?

KaleQueen · 15/08/2024 13:18

Been there. Totally get you. His anger speaks volumes. If it was innocent he wouldn’t get so defensive. I’m not saying anything physical has happened but there’s clearly a connection there that goes beyond colleagues. If he’d been such good ‘friends’ with her why not mention this. That would be normal. I know where you’re coming from. Many others giving advice may not have experienced that gut wrenching feeling you’ve described. Very easy for them to give black and white advice if they haven’t walked this awful path, watching from the sidelines as what feels like a slow moving car crash unfolds. Interesting that you’ve been blamed and are now on ADs because of what he’s doing - much easier to make you the problem instead of owning up to the reality - which is basically him developing a strong bond with another woman who isn’t you. So now instead of a ‘you and him’ situation you’ve got a ‘him and her’ situation and you’re sitting on the outside of this ‘friendship’ looking on thinking wtf is going on. If they’re such good friends then he should have no issue with you meeting her. If he has got a problem with that and refuses, then you know you’ve got a problem.

Sandyankles · 15/08/2024 13:19

Soshu - op is not ‘irrationally upset’. It’s entirely reasonable and rational that she is upset by her h’s sneaky behaviour and prioritising another woman.

Sandyankles · 15/08/2024 13:21

Ask her round for dinner, then you will be able to assess the situation. And she’ll be able to see you as a real person - just in case you are being portrayed as a ‘hysterical woman’ etc.

User6874356 · 15/08/2024 13:23

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:14

He is closing her friendship. I've seen this very thing before. It will ultimately destroy you guys x
They will at some stage get together.

Or they’re just friends and op is being controlling. I have a number of close male platonic friends that I’ve had for 20 years. Luckily none of my exs was controlling

Sandyankles · 15/08/2024 13:24

User - but he is lying.

User6874356 · 15/08/2024 13:24

Sandyankles · 15/08/2024 13:19

Soshu - op is not ‘irrationally upset’. It’s entirely reasonable and rational that she is upset by her h’s sneaky behaviour and prioritising another woman.

He’s not prioritizing another woman tho. He wants to have space to have his own friends without op telling him no and going through his phone

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