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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
SonicTheHodgeheg · 03/07/2024 13:45

He seems really smart at first but then i think maybe he is just quite stupid.

People like him think that everyone else is stupid.

Jutemat · 03/07/2024 13:47

He'll never get over your body count, simple as that. May as well LTB.

MzHz · 03/07/2024 13:47

he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc.

@cccb add to this the GP thing - weird

add to this the fact that you’re just out of an abusive relationship

RUN woman!

this guy is just like my ex (mines a lot older) and the damage he did was just awful

he wants to move in so he can control you, mark my words hw would flip up a gear or 10, he’d belittle you and punish you

you know all this and more

do the clever thing and end this, yes it’s going to be hard, but it’s be harder un fucking up your life/you DC.

Biggleslefae · 03/07/2024 13:48

Marblessolveeverything · 03/07/2024 09:49

Get rid fast, it will only get worse. He sounds ridiculously immature.

I agree with this.
All this man will do is try to drag you down to his level and when he gets you there he will crush you.

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 03/07/2024 13:53

sounds like A LOT of effort OP

also sounds like he's constantly in comparison mode, which makes it unlikely he'll ever be secure - in himself, or in relation to you

Meadowfinch · 03/07/2024 13:56

DreadPirateRobots · 03/07/2024 09:58

PS. The early love bombing, the "we could have a baby", is all classic abuse as well. It's the bait that gets you in and keeps you there.

This. Don't fall for it. Get away while you can.

JFDIYOLO · 03/07/2024 13:56

Your post was longer than your relationship.

Only a year? It's nothing. Move along.

Thank goodness he has not got in with your children, and you haven't allowed him to move in with you.

Do not get pregnant.

Incidentally - what's his immigration status? Does he have indefinite leave to remain, or is his presence here a bit precarious and a woman with a presumably British passport and a free house a big attraction?

BifurBofurBombur · 03/07/2024 13:58

So glad to see you waking up to his true nature on this thread. No wonder he said he is worried you will see his 'true self'....because his true self is really bad!

Mary28 · 03/07/2024 13:59

He sounds bonkers and very insecure. Insecure people want to control everything around them so they will then feel secure. If you don't want to be controlled then get away from this guy. He's 45 and is highly unlikely to change for you or anyone else at this stage.

RosaMoline · 03/07/2024 14:02

This is absolutely horrific.
When you end the relationship (which you will soon, I trust?) please be careful. I don’t wish to alarm you, but I would be surprised if he accepts it. Inform your friends and family so they are aware. Call 999 if he shows up at your house or workplace. If he has a key, get the locks changed.
Unfortunately, I speak from experience.

lto2019 · 03/07/2024 14:02

Get rid - unless violent or illegal - what happened in other relationships or how many you have had is irrelevant and none of his business. What exactly does he want you to do - invent a time machine and go back and alter the past? or use it a stick to beat you with? It will not get any better and he is making his insecurities your problem - when your problem is him being a dick.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 03/07/2024 14:03

cccb · 03/07/2024 13:03

@IdLikeToBeAFraser WOW- he did give me that sob story about his ex wife! She cheated on him with an ex when they were in their early 20s and she lied about it for 20 years, though he says he knew about it before she told him. Yet he did stay with her and they bought a house together etc after he found out. But yes, ex was a cheat/liar and he has these 'trust issues'. He says he has never cheated on anyone and that honesty is no1 to him.
Also his other 'sob story' is that he had a traumatic childhood, witnessing and experiencing domestic abuse. Yet he is close with his abusive father today and loves him. And he uses his abusive childhood as an excuse for all his flaws as well as for his lack of good career, etc etc.
I have thought he is manipulative for a while. And i know it is true. Regardless i dont want to be his rehab.

So, on the plus side, now that you can see that this is all pretty standard, hopefully it becomes easier to see that whether or not be believes all his shit (and in my experience, covert narcissistic personalities like this, genuinely do - it's not that they're terrible people it's that they have massively disordered thinking and are simply incapable of self reflection or accountability. But that's not an excuse for their behaviour).

So the traumatic childhood one is another classic. It may well be true (in fact, theres a lot of research by psychologists that childhood trauma damages brains and stops them from continuing to develop. Look at many children - they have similar behaviour patterns but as they grow and mature they mature and evolve) but it's not an excuse for controlling, manipulative behaviour.

The ranting about people with money/wealth/success, especially eg exW's BF, your friends/family, neighbours is another classic. His own insecurities means he can't be happy for other people and anyone who is "more" than him is a threat. which will also make him make even more effort to bring you down. This is particularly difficult to understand in situations (which are common with this particular type of personality as well) where the woman is objectively more obviously successful - eg earns more or has a profession that is higher profile or higher status.

Be warned, the break up will not be painless. He will use one (or more likely both) of these emotional manipulation tactics 1 begging and pleading and insisting he will change/laying on the victimhood to make you feel sorry for him, possibly even heading to threats of suicide 2 getting super aggressive, angry and threatening.

Mix56 · 03/07/2024 14:04

Yes, this will get nasty when you tell him it's not working for you anymore. He will want to dissect & argue, you are wrong of course.
You need to refuse to discuss further, Its over.

Please do this today.

ActualChips · 03/07/2024 14:06

You can never get back all those seconds you have spent typing all about him. Enjoy life, you've wasted enough of it on this freak.

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 03/07/2024 14:06

BifurBofurBombur · 03/07/2024 13:58

So glad to see you waking up to his true nature on this thread. No wonder he said he is worried you will see his 'true self'....because his true self is really bad!

that struck me as well

"terrified you'll see my true self"

biggest red flag of all.

if you have to hide your true self from your significant other, that means

  1. you recognise that fundamental parts of your nature are not healthy, or conducive to good relationships

  2. you refuse to do anything about them

iAmBarbara · 03/07/2024 14:10

Reading your description of him gave me the ‘ick’

I think you know that he is a walking red flag and I would cut your loses now whilst you don’t have any massive ties (like children)
sorry OP you deserve much better

TheShellBeach · 03/07/2024 14:11

Wow, OP.

I've been with DH for 25 years and he's never once asked any of the things your bloke does.

I've had countless sexual partners in the past, but DH has never quizzed me on them. I mean WTF.

ESCAPE while you still can, OP.

TheShellBeach · 03/07/2024 14:13

And I agree with PP that this kind of man is likely to threaten suicide when you end it.

Pay him no heed.

ActualChips · 03/07/2024 14:15

@cccb can you see why you should have dumped him the instant he was pushing you to access your child? This is genuinely horrifying.

HobbitDreader · 03/07/2024 14:24

He sounds like an exhausting man-baby. If the sex is just "fine" now it will dwindle to nothing. If he is jealous and controlling now it will escalate into coercive behaviors. And you can't have your kids around that.

What are you going to do?

TheShellBeach · 03/07/2024 14:29

OP on the sex alone, I'd end it.

What's the good of sex which is acceptable but not amazing?

Jom222 · 03/07/2024 14:35

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

I'm a midwestern american and have never had anyone except my mother come to a dr appt with me when I was a minor

If a man asked me to attend a dr appt I'd refuse and question why he wants to do that. Its not an american thing ime

JFDIYOLO · 03/07/2024 14:51

If you do decide to do the wise move, be prepared for

Mr Nice - I'm sorry, I'll do better, forgive me, it'll be lovely, tears, presents, nice times ... For a while ...(The mask you were shown when you first got together, the love bombing)

But then when that fails, out will come

Mr Nasty - anger, you're crazy, I was right about you, insults, threats to harm himself, to harm the children, to harm you. (The true face, which you've actually been seeing peering out and spitting from behind the mask for most of your fleeting relationship).

I'd be inclined to do it remotely, in writing, telling him not to approach you again, setting out everything you've said here and keeping to it. Changing locks, blocking, not responding.

Runnerinthenight · 03/07/2024 14:55

Get rid before this escalates.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/07/2024 14:56

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:09

I just have gotten so invested. I would miss him in a lot of ways. I am very worried though about getting in another bad relationship. The arguing and his little jabs are just too much. The honeymoon website search really shocked me tbh after being together a year. And bringing up my bf from when i was 19. So yeah, i guess i do know the answer. It just really sucks to feel like i wasted this much time and ignored so many red flags.

Edited

So miss him. I missed an abusive ex after I - eventually - left. It's a normal reaction.

The thing about holding your affair over you, which is nothing to do with him, he will always be superior to you & he will always use it as a stick to beat you with.

The whole thing sounds exhausting and joyless. Can you imagine ever being happy to have him in your child's life?

Read your posts back and imagine they've been written by someone else. What would you be thinking/feeling?