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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
BabyFedUp445 · 03/07/2024 12:58

Break it off. Preferably over the phone and pack your bags and don't be at home for a few days because he will harass the hell out of you. He will likely make it very very difficult for you.

Under no circumstances invite him into your home.

Lock down ALL social media. Change profile pic to something generic, change name to a nickname and make it all private. Change all your passwords.

The relationship was NOT a waste of time, don't fall for that. You met a guy, you shared interests, you dated, turned out he is a manipulative horrible man. It's why we date and don't move in together/marry straight away. I've had plenty of relationships, that's life.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 03/07/2024 12:59

OP - you sound extremely level headed and it's good you're seeing these huge red flags for what they are.

In terms of the point about him apologising and saying not to judge him for his insecurities - this is a huge trap. Please do not fall for it. It's a classic tool (often used by narcissists, but obviously he doesn't thave to be a narcissist to use it) in which he presents himself as the victim so that his behaviour is excused/accepted on that basis and YOU are left as the person to attempt to make him feel better. So in this case, "I am a terrible person, with unresolved trauma so I have massive insecurities and now you're going to leave me" and your role is to say, "no no, I totally understand and I'll never see/speak/do that thing again." and, even more so, feel RESPONSIBLE for triggering him.

Do not fall for it.

I'm sort of surprised he hasn't given you a sob story about his crazy ex and how she cheated on him though. That's the usual playbook for these sort of men. You know, "You must reassure me because my bitch ex wife shagged everything that moved." which, with 10 seconds thought is clearly irrational but is surprisingly effective.

I suspsect the only thing that's saved you is your refusal to let him move in. Because I PROMISE you, at that point, it would have got 100x worse. Every time you were late home from work for 5 minutes, you'd have had the 3rd degree. Suggesting you're goign out to meet friends would have resulted in sulking (you're obviously just wanting to cheat and/or you don't love him enough to spend time with him). Financial abuse is often common - in this kind of situation by the abuser making the victim financially responsible eg moving into your house but only paying towards bills.

End it. He is not a good person for you.

cccb · 03/07/2024 13:03

@IdLikeToBeAFraser WOW- he did give me that sob story about his ex wife! She cheated on him with an ex when they were in their early 20s and she lied about it for 20 years, though he says he knew about it before she told him. Yet he did stay with her and they bought a house together etc after he found out. But yes, ex was a cheat/liar and he has these 'trust issues'. He says he has never cheated on anyone and that honesty is no1 to him.
Also his other 'sob story' is that he had a traumatic childhood, witnessing and experiencing domestic abuse. Yet he is close with his abusive father today and loves him. And he uses his abusive childhood as an excuse for all his flaws as well as for his lack of good career, etc etc.
I have thought he is manipulative for a while. And i know it is true. Regardless i dont want to be his rehab.

OP posts:
LazyGewl · 03/07/2024 13:03

He’s a nutcase.

OtterMouse · 03/07/2024 13:06

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catin8oots · 03/07/2024 13:08

Bin. Now.

Catoo · 03/07/2024 13:08

🏃🏽‍♀️ OP

TheMauveTiger · 03/07/2024 13:12

@cccb

I had one exactly like that. I had to go over and over and over every detail (sometimes in the middle of the night) and if there was the tiniest change in what I said I was "lying" to him and that was reason for him to insist I couldn't be trusted unless he knew everything. So I had to go over it all again. I didn't recognise it was abuse until he hit me.
He was diagnosed with Pathological Jeslousy in the end. I finished it, of course.
And so should you OP. This will get worse.

cccb · 03/07/2024 13:13

I cant believe that recently i listened to him rant on the phone for 10 minutes about how he hates people who value success or prestige (in relation to his ex-w 'bragging' about her new partner) and how he refuses to be friends with those people and how it is 'so rare' to find anyone who is down to earth and humble and that money and success dont mean anything, etc etc. He sounded like a teenager. And coudlnt understand why i felt like it was just a reaction his ex-w having a new partner, denying furiously that he cared about that at all. He seems really smart at first but then i think maybe he is just quite stupid.

OP posts:
KreedKafer · 03/07/2024 13:14

He will never change, and he is abusive. Please, please leave him. He’s vile.

fatphalange · 03/07/2024 13:15

He sounds fucking terrifying. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns physical one day, what with him being a complete psycho. I'm sorry OP but I'd be too scared to stay with him. Honestly just reading about such a man put a sick feeling of dread in my stomach. This is how men in those shit channel 5 daytime films end up acting when it's revealed they are too good to be true and then it gets worse and worse!

Olivia2495 · 03/07/2024 13:19

And btw he is still friends with his ex wife and goes round her house sometimes! I can only imagine what he would say if i did that with my ex-h! He has harbored resentment towards me for a while because i didn't tell him every time me and ex-h spoke

So he’s a fucking hypocrite too, as well as an incel. He is using incel language going on about being being virgins and judging you. He can barely contain his rage that it is easy for women to get sex.

Get rid of the thick cunt, and never listen to his incel nonsense ever again.

Iamawomenphenominally · 03/07/2024 13:23

I'm so glad you listened to your gut and didn't involve him with your kids.

Time to say goodbye to this one for sure.

Turfwars · 03/07/2024 13:24

Just for future reference, you aren't obliged to tell anyone your history. I'm with DH 20 years and if he was the kind of man to tell me what he did with previous partners or the intimacies they shared while together, I wouldn't have married him. His discretion when it came to his previous partners' privacy went strongly in his favour.

Broadly speaking I know things he's done and not done sexually in the past but the who and the when - I don't want to know. I don't want those images in my brain! Likewise, he's no idea of my 'number' either and after all this time, I barely remember either.

We did sti tests when we went exclusive and that was enough.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 03/07/2024 13:24

then said he wanted to come into the appt with me as he likes 'to be involved with everything',

Run. Now. Do. Not. Look. Back.

So many red flags 🚩

MoveToParis · 03/07/2024 13:24

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

I thought maybe a weird Northern Ireland family.

I’m dating an American, and actually in a waiting room for a hosp. Appt. We had lunch together… and then he went back to his own house- because he knows it would be weird for him to go to the appointment with me.

I’m afraid your guy is an absolute loser. He’s so nasty, and you should ditch him!

Ooral · 03/07/2024 13:26

More red flags than red flag day in China. Run / Block and be ready for the stalking and harrassment.

Greatmate · 03/07/2024 13:27

He's a crank. He's manipulative and controlling. Fuck that.

Get ready for the accusations, being called olall the slags and sluts under the same and suicide threats when you dump him.

Giggorata · 03/07/2024 13:29

Endorsing everything that is being said about coercion, control and abuse.

I strongly suspect that the only reason he hasn't turned physically violent is because you haven't let him move in.
Thank gods you haven't.

I speak from experience here, too.
An ex was this one's twin.
In the end I would get beaten up when we were out and a man looked at me. Because, of course, I had got dressed up for other men, not because I wanted to wear a nice dress.

The stupid hoops I jumped through, to try and reassure him… It took me far too long to realise that this was pathological and nothing ever would.

Runsyd · 03/07/2024 13:33

Berthatydfil · 03/07/2024 12:07

Run away and when you get there run more.
Hes got more red flags than a communist party parade.

Lol, I was going to use that one. I'm loving the red flags quips on this post.

godmum56 · 03/07/2024 13:37

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:09

I just have gotten so invested. I would miss him in a lot of ways. I am very worried though about getting in another bad relationship. The arguing and his little jabs are just too much. The honeymoon website search really shocked me tbh after being together a year. And bringing up my bf from when i was 19. So yeah, i guess i do know the answer. It just really sucks to feel like i wasted this much time and ignored so many red flags.

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Think of it as a learning experience, once you know better, youcan do better.

JFDIYOLO · 03/07/2024 13:38

This will only get worse, OP. And Worse. AND WORSE.

At his age, his personality is set in stone.

And you could have another 40 years of this.

Dragging and droning and moaning and groaning.

Dredging up decades of 'your past'.

Suspicion and resentment and fantasising.

Latching on to to every innocent comment, look, opinion as 'evidence'. He's looking for evidence - and when it isn't there he needs to manufacture it.

Read your own post.

Do you really need to ask us?

If you choose to stay - enjoy that life. Because it's the one you'll get.

If you choose to leave, be prepared - that will be taken as 'evidence', too.

He's nuts.

Buntycat · 03/07/2024 13:38

This will definitely not get better. You are seeing the huge flashing warning signs. End this relationship.

viques · 03/07/2024 13:41

So far you have only wasted a year of your life on him. Think how you would feel if in ten years time you were still with him. Or even in two years time!

Time to think of your future, and I don’t think it will be with someone so unhealthily obsessed with your past.

DissidentDaughter · 03/07/2024 13:45

Get out asap, he’s a wrong ‘un.