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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

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cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
IdLikeToBeAFraser · 04/07/2024 13:35

Oh yes, that's a good point. The smear campaign and/or lobbying more widely will start too. I don't know if he knows your friend/family at all but be prepared for them to start receiving messages/calls in which he either accuses you of crazy behaviour and/or claims you have significant mental health issues/are batshit crazy and he's concerned etc.

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 04/07/2024 13:38

On a slightly lighter note for the last one, the person like this in our extended family definitely did this. I always knew he was sending messages to her friends as well but I didn't know any of the details. One told me the other day that she kept getting messages from him late at night saying things like, "Do you even know what your "friend" is doing tonight?" She said the thing she couldn't get her head around was why did he care. Apparently one message said something about her having sex with someone and again, her friend was like, "And I should be shocked by this because....?"

It was actually very funny. we had a good chuckle about it.

To be clear, it even though they were broken up, you can udnerstand why HE cared. But she couldn't work out why he thought SHE would care!

JFDIYOLO · 04/07/2024 14:38

About those photos - it would be wise to read up on revenge porn, which is a criminal offence. Just in case.

We too had an incidence of a family member's ex systematically contacting all family and friends including me making accusations. Maybe a good idea to let yours know, once you've ended the relationship?

www.cps.gov.uk/cps/news/illegal-sexual-behaviour-online-including-sharing-and-threatening-share-intimate-images

Avatartar · 04/07/2024 14:45

OP you could altert family and friends when you tell him you’ve split and warn them to perhaps expect to be sent some digitally altered AI photos of you. I don’t think most of us could tell what was real and false so you may be able to swerve embarrassment but still alert police if he does do it
don’t let him exhaust you into letting him back in your life

BouquetGarni224 · 04/07/2024 14:51

I don't think I could resist saying

"I care about you deeply and because of that, I just really want you to be happy. It's obvious that I don't make you happy and that I'm not what you're looking for. I'm not suited to you.

But there is bound to be a lady who is much better suited to you out there, who would make you happy and, as dreadfully painful as it is; my regard for you means I have to let you go to go and find her. You will find her and be happy, my love.

..... Meanwhile rolling my eyes so far back I'd worry they wouldn't return to normal, and thinking "yeah, maybe if you buy a teenage virgin from a developing country, even then you'll act like a total fucking freak to her. I hope she gets her visa and runs away, you fkg madman".

StormingNorman · 04/07/2024 18:41

These men don’t ever take responsibility for their actions so no point explaining why you are breaking. Instead take away his power to abuse you and disrupt the story…

”You keep telling me I’m not the right woman for you and this time I’m going to listen. We aren’t making one another happy and it is best we call it a day so we can go on to meet other people. Please don’t try to get in touch. There isn’t anything else to be said. I wish you every happiness in your next relationship”.

Biggleslefae · 05/07/2024 12:38

StormingNorman · 04/07/2024 18:41

These men don’t ever take responsibility for their actions so no point explaining why you are breaking. Instead take away his power to abuse you and disrupt the story…

”You keep telling me I’m not the right woman for you and this time I’m going to listen. We aren’t making one another happy and it is best we call it a day so we can go on to meet other people. Please don’t try to get in touch. There isn’t anything else to be said. I wish you every happiness in your next relationship”.

I think this is an excellent response, let him think he's the bees knees, that's the best revenge you could ever get 👏🏻😁

savethatkitty · 05/07/2024 15:45

Dear John, this situation is not working for me. Wishing you well in the future. Please do not contact me again. Regards, Jane. Then block.

alrightluv · 05/07/2024 16:35

@cccb did you send the pics on WhatsApp? If you delete them on there and he hasn't saved them don't they delete off his phone?

beths89 · 16/04/2025 16:38

I’ve just read this whole thread and wow, I could have written your posts myself. So sorry to hear you’ve gone through this.
Would be interested to know how things went with ending the relationship, and how you’re feeling now?

YippetyYapYap · 16/04/2025 21:04

It will get worse xx

scoobysnaxx · 17/04/2025 12:01

How are things @cccb? This post just flagged up for me and I remember you well. I hope you came to a conclusion of what to do xx

Alwaysdarkestjustbeforedawn · 17/04/2025 15:19

This type of behaviour impacts your life for many years. My ex husband was like this throughout our relationship, mostly when he was drunk but always the underlying resentment of ‘what he thought I did before he met me He would often call me a slag or a whore etc etc

5 years after divorcing, and having not spoken to
him - I found myself worrying when I went to hospital in the town he lives in. When I thought about why, it was because I was going for an ultrasound on my tummy and was worried that he may see me and think I’m going because of an STI. That’s the effect he had on me all these years later.

As part of that investigation I had a smear test and I actually cried when it was negative - not because I was glad that it was clear, because I felt it was validation that I didn’t have HPV as he always told
me that anyone who had that slept around.

ive only realised all these years later; it’s his problem to own, not mine.

Please don’t allow any man to lower your worth due to his insecurities

Tadpole10 · 18/04/2025 10:34

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

Until you said he was from USA I thought this could actually be my abusive ex, OP. Your story is eerily almost identical to the beginning of my abusive relationship.

I am sorry to say I ignored the reg flags, made excuses for him, fell for the love bombing and my ludicrous next steps were allowing myself to be banned from seeing certain friends, giving up my house and job, moving hundred of miles to be with him and become financially dependent on him. Played into his controlling hands. The abuse got worse of course and I ended up fleeing.

The GP appointment thing you said especially chilled me. My abusive ex went mad once when he found out a doctor had examined me vaginally as part of a medical appointment. Such was his twisted jealousy.

please please get out now.

Tadpole10 · 18/04/2025 10:46

@cccbI didn’t realise this was quite an old thread when I replied again today, sorry OP. I would really like to know how you are doing now though? Hope you and dc are safe and happy.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 18/04/2025 10:57

Red flags. You will be happier without him. Think carefully about how to break up with him. I bet he turns nasty. (even nastier)

Ukholidaysaregreat · 18/04/2025 10:59

O didn't realise this was old. Hope you are OK now OP.

namechangeGOT · 18/04/2025 12:46

I have been married for 18 years. I was, what could be described as ‘a bit of a warm un’ prior to meeting my husband. In the 20 odd years I have known him he has never, not once asked me about my sex life prior to him. 1 because he knows I’d tell him to piss of and mind his own business and 2 because he’s not a weirdo.

Mamabear487 · 18/04/2025 12:51

Absolutely not.

ElleintheWoods · 18/04/2025 12:58

Sorry, it's not gonna work out. He's extremely jealous and stuck in his own head, this way of thinking is not healthy and will hugely affect you over time.

His views are really misogynistic and I don't use this word lightly. The level of control he requires over you will only increase over time.

Even admitting things like 'researching your wedding online' and his thoughts on it is really unhinged behaviour, as well as thinking excessively and being jealous of your exes.

If he starts saying things like 'you're mine and mine only' or starting to question how you interact with other men in everyday situations... Run. Just run. You'll feel caged and suffocated staying with someone so judgemental of you.

FartSock5000 · 18/04/2025 13:20

@cccb it's not even jealousy.

This man is so small and insecure that he is looking at ways he can diminish you so that he can feel better about himself and his own inadequacies. You will never be raised up or shine in his presence because he won't allow that due to his own defects.

That isn't the basis for real love or a healthy relationship and at his age, he won't put in the work now to change.

Let him go. Find a real equal. Someone who things you are the absolute bomb and encourages you to sparkle.

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