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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

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cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

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Makegoodchoices · 03/07/2024 10:18

I imagine that the more your confidence improves the more of a threat he finds it. So he wants to bring you back down to reduce your ‘options’.

keffie12 · 03/07/2024 10:20

@cccb Get our and stay out. He is an abuser even though he isn't physically violent.

Domestic abuse includes emotional abuse/coercive and gaslighting. You're in this.

Other abuse is financial/sexual as well as the above

I've been here done that. He won't improve. It will get worse. Contact winens aid. You are in abuse, and they can help and support you with this and the aftermath, including counselling

www.womensaid.org.uk/

MargotEmin · 03/07/2024 10:24

Jesus Christ woman, why are you even doubting yourself?! It's not borderline, or kind of blurry, he's a clear as day jealous, possessive dickhead who wants to diminish you and make you smaller.

I had one like this for a couple of years but dumped him aged 21 as it was so obviously toxic (and also deeply pathetic and unattractive, but mainly because it was toxic).

very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel

Also just to add, basing a relationship on this stuff is a really rookie error. Meaningful, loving, long term relationships aren't based on shared interests (though they are often the catalyst that brings two people together); they're based on respect, kindness, how emotionally attuned you are, having similar values, being each others biggest fan and having each others back.

Chipbarmandgravy · 03/07/2024 10:26

He sounds like and immature middle-aged idiot. He's realised he is punching above his weight and is ruining what he’s got. Your 36 time throw this one back into the sea..

FeatherBoas · 03/07/2024 10:28

Be careful if you break up it sounds as though he's very jealous and could take it very badly.

Julyshouldbesunny · 03/07/2024 10:29

His poor exw put up with that for how long?
Luckily you have seen the light much sooner... BTW did you let him into your Dr's appointment?

Workawayxx · 03/07/2024 10:30

I'd thank him profusely (in your own mind) for showing hints of who he truly is and get rid of him. And remember, to some extent, he's still on best behaviour after a year - 99% he has worse behaviour yet to reveal itself. Do you want to stick around for the full reveal or protect yourself and your DC by getting out now?

It'll be hard and sad to let go of the man you thought he was but you WILL get over it and keep reminding yourself he was never that man (massive signs of love bombing especially all the things in common).

Redflagsabounded · 03/07/2024 10:31

He's quite the hypocrite too. He doesn't have sex without love, but somehow he married a woman he didn't love (just friends), knowing he wasn't serious about their marriage (knew it wouldn't last).

Controlling, jealous and immature.

God, throw him back.

Lurkingandlearning · 03/07/2024 10:32

Trying to get into your GP appointment is one of the all time lows in the league of what nasty shit some men do.

Trust your instincts and end it. When you do also tell him you won’t be having any further contact with him. Wish him well but that is it - finished. I say that because he sounds like the type that won’t accept a relationship is over until he decides it is.

You sound great and can do so much better.

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:33

He also pushed a lot to meet my dc after just a few months and made it out like it was a sign of my interest in him or not, if i didn't introduce them. He has even still only met them once briefly and i think thats totally appropriate, but he always says i am over cautious.

Wow, all the replies are really eye opening. i wish i had posted months ago. And no i didnt let him into my appt!!

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TomatoSandwiches · 03/07/2024 10:35

It's not your fault op, these types of men love bomb you at first, slowly ramping it up so you don't know what's going on.
It's a very typical pattern that you can recognise now.
I would reccomend the freedom programme to help you identify people like this earlier but don't feel like you have to stay and try to fix him, he doesn't want to be fixed he wants to control you, he sees nothing wrong with his behaviour.

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:38

He sent me a very long apologetic message after the argument saying he was sorry for bringing up my past relationships and that he knew it was stupid to have searched my honeymoon, and he is worried i will see his true self and leave him, and please not to judge him by his insecurities. But i just dont have any optimism left. We seem to be in a cycle of him starting arguments over stupid stuff then apologising and it has really eroded things. But its not like he never apologises or doesnt have self awareness, like pp have said, maybe he just cannot control it or change.

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Wheyofgoat · 03/07/2024 10:39

🚩 you are absolutely right. He has a whole heap of red flags and danger signs. I think you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg so far which is really scary. RUN

Try to remember that you will soon get over missing him, the fake him who never really existed, even if it is difficult for a short time. Then quickly you will feel the weight has lifted from you.

Keep busy, see friends, visit this thread, speak to women’s aid and you will be able to move on to better things

SusanCarter11 · 03/07/2024 10:40

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cccb · 03/07/2024 10:42

@SusanCarter11 LOL troll

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Marblessolveeverything · 03/07/2024 09:49

Get rid fast, it will only get worse. He sounds ridiculously immature.

This.

Straight in the bin, I’m afraid.

L0bstersLass · 03/07/2024 10:42

He said "he is worried i will see his true self and leave him".

Well at least his self aware on that front.
He sounds horrendous. My advice is to run away as quickly as you can.

Brexile · 03/07/2024 10:42

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Oh look an MRA. "A boy named Sue". 🙄

FlamingoQueen · 03/07/2024 10:43

This sounds exhausting and I’ve only read about it! This does not sound healthy at all. If he wants to come to a drs appt with you (pleased you didn’t let him in) then this is not going to get any better. This is your life and if you want it to continue like this, then carry on. You are not necessarily going to get into a bad relationship after this one - but at least give yourself chance to find out!

TomatoSandwiches · 03/07/2024 10:43

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If he is such an insecure man that he can not cope with the idea that a 36 Yr old woman has had multiple secual partners then he should take himself out of the dating pool.

This is a him problem, nothing to do with op and her sexual/dating history.

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

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Ihadenough22 · 03/07/2024 10:44

Your 36 and already have a child. He is 45 and has no children. When he met you were vulnerable and he probably realised this. He probably loved bombed you and said we can have a child together making you think we could have a future here.

The honeymoon period is now over and he is showing his true colours. He keeps asking questions about your past and making comments about the number of men you slept with.
This is giving you the ick and making you see him in a totally different light.
Then he is showing signs of being very posesive. Asking and expecting to go into a doctor's appointment with you saying this happens where you live. He wanted to find out about health, previous medical issues or not give you a chance to talk to your doctor about him.

The reality is that you worked on improving your own life. You got a new job because your last job was as poor for what ever reason. You may have had some counselling. You put yourself in to a better position.
At least you realised what he is like now before you got pregnant.

A man of 45 acting like this and then claiming he not like his father or brother's who are making sexist comments ect is a man who can't accept he has issues and therefore he won't work on them.
In your situation I would end things with him because this behaviour will just get worse.

Ihadenough22 · 03/07/2024 10:44

Your 36 and already have a child. He is 45 and has no children. When he met you were vulnerable and he probably realised this. He probably loved bombed you and said we can have a child together making you think we could have a future here.

The honeymoon period is now over and he is showing his true colours. He keeps asking questions about your past and making comments about the number of men you slept with.
This is giving you the ick and making you see him in a totally different light.
Then he is showing signs of being very posesive. Asking and expecting to go into a doctor's appointment with you saying this happens where you live. He wanted to find out about health, previous medical issues or not give you a chance to talk to your doctor about him.

The reality is that you worked on improving your own life. You got a new job because your last job was as poor for what ever reason. You may have had some counselling. You put yourself in to a better position.
At least you realised what he is like now before you got pregnant.

A man of 45 acting like this and then claiming he not like his father or brother's who are making sexist comments ect is a man who can't accept he has issues and therefore he won't work on them.
In your situation I would end things with him because this behaviour will just get worse.

Donotgogentle · 03/07/2024 10:44

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:42

@SusanCarter11 LOL troll

Either a troll or a misogynistic tosser of the first order. Ignore.

StormingNorman · 03/07/2024 10:44

He’s a misogynist and through his religious prism, you are a fallen woman. Hilarious in 2024.

His lack of self-awareness is baffling and I would be concerned about DV starting up after the marriage. He shares more of his family’s beliefs than he will admit.