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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
TomatoSandwiches · 03/07/2024 11:52

Julyshouldbesunny · 03/07/2024 11:44

Tmi...
My exh was controlling and judgey in a similar way. .. I had a dc and previously lived with their df.. ... When I left him he claimed our relationship never had a chance... That I kept him at arms length.. The proof being I refused to let him change my tampons...
Grim I tell you. .

Fucking hell

HermioneWeasley · 03/07/2024 11:53

I have never had to tell anyone that I’m not actually jealous or controlling. Do you know why? Because I’m not, so it’s perfectly obvious from the way I behave that I’m not.

run, don’t walk.

DreadPirateRobots · 03/07/2024 11:54

OP: "this guy is ramping up his textbook abuse of me"
Most PP: "omg run this will only get worse"
That one PP: "how is he in bed tho"
🤔😡

pikkumyy77 · 03/07/2024 11:58

DreadPirateRobots · 03/07/2024 09:58

PS. The early love bombing, the "we could have a baby", is all classic abuse as well. It's the bait that gets you in and keeps you there.

Dread Pirate Robert is correct. Everything with this man is bad. From soup to nuts. You think there is an original, good, loving, version but there isn’t. That was just “decoy man” the real man is anxious, jealous, insecure, demanding, manipulative, raised by a misogynistic father to employ physical abuse when necessary . All the things you loved about him were for show. The real him is monstrous.

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:58

In bed he is actually very giving and the sex is fine, not best ever but its fine. It just took us a while to get there and he has some physical issues that affect his erections at times. I think he is self conscious about his performance. Whatever, sex with my exh was great and that relationship crashed, so it doesnt mean a dealbreaker or maker for me. Tbh i am fast losing attraction for him as a result of his behaviour so his skills or lack thereof dont matter that much for me it is about the mental as well as the physical.

OP posts:
TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 03/07/2024 12:00

More red flags than a red flag factory. Be glad you're realising it now, not once you've had his child!

Run.

TheIranianYoghurtIsNotTheIssueHere · 03/07/2024 12:02

Julyshouldbesunny · 03/07/2024 11:44

Tmi...
My exh was controlling and judgey in a similar way. .. I had a dc and previously lived with their df.. ... When I left him he claimed our relationship never had a chance... That I kept him at arms length.. The proof being I refused to let him change my tampons...
Grim I tell you. .

I've read some things on Mumsnet in my time but JESUS H CHRIST. Well done for leaving.

TicTac80 · 03/07/2024 12:04

Were it not for the fact that you gave his age (and I know my ex from years ago is in an LTR and is older), I would have assumed you were talking about my ex that I was with for 3yrs, way back in my late teens/early 20's. He had exactly the same MO as your boyfriend. Same nasty abusive streak (which I was too young/naive to twig at the time). My advice to you? Run. He is the problem, not you.

My ex started out amazing (I think they call it love bombing) and then before I knew it, I was in hot water, going in circles to try and "prove" my love for him, and emotionally/psychologically shot to bits from his abuse. Everything I did, wasn't good enough, or he would then change the goal posts. He isolated me from friends, tried to isolate me from family, put so much pressure on me that I didn't finish my degree (I did go back to finish it after we split). I ended up a shell of the person I was and it took me a long time to find myself again. I should have left 6months in (or before!) but I couldn't see what he was doing. Please run.

DollyBelle · 03/07/2024 12:06

I am often suspicious of anyone who presents themselves in a virginal light.
As my grannie used to say - he knows his own tricks best! By that I mean while you have been candid about your past, I would bet his is entirely fictional. That’s why he is insecure - because he knows how he really behaves, and he is projecting that onto you.
This man’s whole persona isn’t genuine.
Please get yourself away from this man. You may feel invested but it’s only a year, and don’t let your DC anywhere near him.
You are very bright, have lots going for you, perhaps use this a lesson. Next time slow the pace right down.

Berthatydfil · 03/07/2024 12:07

Run away and when you get there run more.
Hes got more red flags than a communist party parade.

alrightluv · 03/07/2024 12:10

DollyBelle · 03/07/2024 12:06

I am often suspicious of anyone who presents themselves in a virginal light.
As my grannie used to say - he knows his own tricks best! By that I mean while you have been candid about your past, I would bet his is entirely fictional. That’s why he is insecure - because he knows how he really behaves, and he is projecting that onto you.
This man’s whole persona isn’t genuine.
Please get yourself away from this man. You may feel invested but it’s only a year, and don’t let your DC anywhere near him.
You are very bright, have lots going for you, perhaps use this a lesson. Next time slow the pace right down.

This with bells on. I was with a yank for a year and he was full of shit. Luckily I caught him out.

Do like the gingerbread man and run run as fast as you can!!!

OriginalUsername2 · 03/07/2024 12:14

He sounds like a big wet flannel

MikeRafone · 03/07/2024 12:15

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:45

And btw i am not sure i have had full sex with 20 guys at all, but just that i have had sexual relations (lol.. for want of a better word) with probably that many, i have been sexually active since 16 and i spent my whole 20s in London, so i don't think it's that odd at all. But for him, he thinks it is shocking anyone can have sex without being in love. He wouldnt sleep with me for >3 months for this reason and had ED related to it. Ughhh.

Your past is yours, it's made you who you are and is not for anyone else to pick over and question or judge you about. Your past belongs to you and its up to you whether you want to delve back into it and remember stuff - not anyone else to put in queries about it - how fucking dare they.

Be proud of who you are and what you have done, and tell him to feck right of with his judgements

Snowfalling · 03/07/2024 12:16

Please tell us you're ending this relationship??? Surely you can see him for what he is now?

cccb · 03/07/2024 12:17

To be honest this thread has only confirmed my suspicions that i have pushed down for a while. I think this is why i havent brought him around my dc, a gut instinct. I just can't anymore.

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Alwaysdarkestjustbeforedawn · 03/07/2024 12:18

My ex husband sounds very similar. I had been single for 5 years before we met, he had not long been divorced.

His resentment was always simmering just below the surface, and would come out when he had a drink. The first year was good, a couple of jealously flare ups but nothing too much - one of them being when he stood up before leaving my house, bent down without warning, pulling my trousers down and latching on to my bum cheek with his lips to give me a ‘love bite’ presumably in order to mark me on the off chance I might be seeing someone else. I was shouting for him to stop but he thought this was perfectly acceptable.

It progressed to uncontrollable abuse, screaming at me what a whore I was in the street/paying attention to me logging on to my work laptop so he could later log on and go through my emails. He even found an old phone from 4 years before we met and downloaded it on to his computer to read the contents.

Jesus, I wish I’d paid more attention to the red flags than listen to the apologies/just a bit of jealousy rubbish. I didn’t, and I married him and it got so much worse.

In the whole time I knew him, I never cheated or even text another man. None of that mattered, it’s what he believed I’d done (before I met him) that he couldn’t get over. Thankfully we are now divorced.

This won’t get better, this is a behavioural issue he will not be able to change. My ex husband described it as always going round in his mind and he wasn’t able to stop thinking about it.

Please, don’t be me. Don’t ignore this behaviour. What you condone, sets the tone, and by placating and soothing you are encouraging him to behave like this (although I know you don’t mean to) but every time you entertain explaining something that has absolutely fucking nothing to do with him, he thinks he can push it further next time.

If I was back at the start of that relationship now - the first time it was bought up about anything before him, I’d have said I’m not discussing or answering questions on it and then parrot that at every other time it was bought up.

He won’t change, I’d have an up front conversation that this stops now or the relationship will finish.

Catnipcupcakes · 03/07/2024 12:18

‘he is worried i will see his true self and leave him’

You have, so you probably will. When you do be prepared for him to get worse. Take care, op.

IReallyStillCantBeBothered · 03/07/2024 12:19

I didn’t finish reading your post but the more I read the more I agree that you need to end it and move on. I don’t see him getting over it and this has nothing to do with you but it is his immaturity and inability to move on and love you for who you are.

In relationships like this you will find yourself making changes to try to please him and make him happy but it will most likely never be enough and one day you will wake and not recognize yourself anymore. Jealously like this will make you a shell of yourself and cut you off from your friends, family and support group. End it.

MounjaroUser · 03/07/2024 12:20

You don't love this control freak. You really don't. Things are only going to get worse with him - that age difference will give him even bigger problems so you'll have that on top of your perfectly normal past to deal with.

Get out while you can.

ConspiracyTheory · 03/07/2024 12:21

 one word for you @cccb : RUN

ConspiracyTheory · 03/07/2024 12:22

MounjaroUser · 03/07/2024 12:20

You don't love this control freak. You really don't. Things are only going to get worse with him - that age difference will give him even bigger problems so you'll have that on top of your perfectly normal past to deal with.

Get out while you can.

This. He sounds exhausting.

WhereYouLeftIt · 03/07/2024 12:24

"he is worried i will see his true self and leave him,"
Even he knows he's a shit! And yes, it's a tell.

"I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me"
Thank goodness you're starting to see reality now the Early Romance Goggles have faded! You know this relationship is toxic, because HE is toxic. The endless cross-examinations, the berating you for your honest answers - I agree with other posters, your past doesn't actually bother him or he'd have walked away; but it is a very convenient stick to beat you with, to make you feel bad in yourself and to make you feel that you have to be extra nice to him to soothe his 'hurt'. What a manipulative arse he is!

On the plus side, you haven't wasted your life on him, just a year, and you are not tied to him forever by shared children. That's a blessing.

Cut and run. End this relationship ASAP. He will never change, and you would end up a shell of yourself were you to continue with this relationship.

Maia77 · 03/07/2024 12:26

He's insecure, jealous and there's a clash of values, morals, beliefs etc. Yeah, it's likely that it will get worse over time.

Seeingadistance · 03/07/2024 12:28

I was at "ditch him" just from the thread title alone.

You're right, OP. LTB.

MotherOfCatBoy · 03/07/2024 12:29

He doesn’t own you but he thinks he does.
Run.
He doesn’t live with you which is good. When you tell him, make it remotely or in a public place. Have someone waiting for you outside. Make sure people know where you are.
I would change your phone number and go no contact.
If he shows any sign of stalking you, report it, get a court order and consider moving, even temporarily.
When you leave him will be the most dangerous time but it will also be the start of getting your life back.