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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
Playinwithfire · 03/07/2024 11:23

Run for the hills. He has no business commenting on your past. It's his problem if he doesn't like it.. his comments are abusive and controlling! Grooming you with the aim of stripping you from your complete identity.
Language he is using is describing who he is "untrustworthy"... The fact he got you to a comfortable stage, for you to express your personal info and is now using it against you, that's an abusive tactic and he seeing how far you will be push it. What does he say about his ex wife?

This is a very scary position to be in. So make sure you make someone close to you aware of what is going on and you get enough protection around you

Like you I've had a colourful past, it was fun and experimental there is not a dam thing wrong with that. My husband is 11 years older and he has zero issues with it.

bringoutthebranston · 03/07/2024 11:24

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:10

@Olivia2495 so you think that was almost like a tell? his words: "I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"
Which seems odd if he's so honest etc. Why would he worry about that otherwise. from a 45 y o man, it just is so exhausting.

wow he is going to throw that back in your face I suspect when... and I sincerely hope when... you break up with him. My prediction is that he wont take no for an answer at first but when you feel weakened again, just read these posts. I agree with a previous reply that you need to do it in a public place, he is very manipulative and might turn on the water works and try what he can to get sympathy and suggest that you can help him be a better person.. bla bla. you sound like a strong woman and your vulnerability at the start of the relationship was what he has honed in on (very common with narcissists) so now take back control and dump him. My EXH back when we first met asked me all about my past and was very judgemental, the red flags I ignored and they nearly cost me my relationship with my son when he told him everything about me when we split. Good luck.

Daleksatemyshed · 03/07/2024 11:25

He's told you who he is Op, now listen to him. He married even though it wouldn't last because that's what you do to have sex, no DC because he'd be leaving, no respect for your privacy, couldn't get erection out of guilt, sees living with you as a way to save money.
He is Just like his family Op, just like them. Send him back to the 1950s where he belongs and enjoy your single life

Elizo · 03/07/2024 11:27

It sounds awful. Trawling your internet history is really unhealthy. You need to exit

HollyKnight · 03/07/2024 11:27

Oh yuck. Please don't expose your child to someone with a misogynistic slut-shaming attitude. He's 45 years old, this is who he is. He's not going to change. You will need to send him on his way as he will not go voluntarily.

ActualChips · 03/07/2024 11:27

Him pushing to meet your child is horrifying. Did you not see that is a huge red flag?
You don't need to keep analysing him and providing more examples of his terrible behaviour. Dump him, no need for arguing.

Avoid males altogether until you've done extensive work on your standards, self esteem, spotting obvious red flags, and safeguarding your child.

MrBallensWife · 03/07/2024 11:28

This sounds like my ex...All great at first then over time stuff would be thrown in my face,he did his own internet investigations and went through all my social media from years ago,way before I met him.I was accused of fancying other men or having affairs (none of which were true),I was even accused of having an affair with my BIL as my sister and I had known him since we were kids so we were like mates as well as BIL/SIL.It got to a point where I was scared to even look or talk to another man in everyday life as I'd be accused of fancying them.He hated the fact my DD4 saw her father and I was always interrogated about him.
He put a tracker and spyware on my phone so he could read all my messages,call logs and internet search history etc.He hid in the house one day when I came home from work and he pretended to be at work just so he could see what I 'got up to'.I knew he was there and this was the day I decided enough was enough and asked him to leave which resulted in him forcing me to drive him to his sisters house,slapping me round the head while driving and threatening to kick me out of the car and drive the car into a wall with my 4 year old daughter inside.When we got to his sisters he refused to get out and threatened to beat me if I didn't take him back to mine.I managed to pacify him that night and the next day he acted completely normal like nothing had happened and after I dropped him to work I packed a bag and fled to my sisters for a few weeks.
Honestly,if I can give you one piece of advice it would be to get rid,and quick,this type of man only gets worse over time and you will be constantly walking on eggshells as his behavior and abuse will only escalate.

EveningSpread · 03/07/2024 11:29

At best, he has the emotional maturity of an immature 14 year old. At worst, he’s calculating and abusive. It’s probably both. Escape!

tara66 · 03/07/2024 11:29

The fact this man does NOT come from a Middle Eastern/Islamic culture but actually USA makes him a lot 'worse' and really alarming. Presume he is from a fanatical Christian background? And he is still thinks that way now! I would advise he finds someone with the same thoughts and background. But it is not the real world and he should know that. We are all sinners except for him - it is still his mind set.

DazedNotConfused1 · 03/07/2024 11:29

He’s very insecure and sounds like he needs more reassurance that you love him more than you have anyone else.

I would also say you should point out that he had a 24 year marriage! You will never share that amount of time with him and have that deep a connection - ie flip it on him and make him see how silly it is to compare your present with the past and how hypocritical he is being.

askmenow · 03/07/2024 11:30

Sooo soooo many red flags in this! He's VERY insecure and is projecting this onto you. Love bombing you initially and now undermining your confidence/beliefs systems already...
The family history (brothers and dad) of DV... just awful. Get out now. Don't bring your darling child into this.
This will only get worse. RUN and block!

Snowfalling · 03/07/2024 11:31

"I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"

So the mask is slipping and he knows you're onto him. Dump and do the freedom programme.

Also anyone who 'pushes a lot' for you to do anything is not to be trusted, especially when it comes to your dc.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 03/07/2024 11:33

Please please tell us you've booted him into next week. He is so creepy and controlling. I really hope you posting is a wake up call to get rid of him

Disturbia81 · 03/07/2024 11:33

Find someone your own age instead of this older possessive creep.

nunsflipflop · 03/07/2024 11:33

I got married in a registry office, had no honeymoon either. Just celebrated 30 years of a very happy marriage. I also had a past, but guess what, it made me who I am and my husband adores me, took on my DC’s as his own.

This guy has more red flags than a dangerous beach. Throw this one back, he isn’t the man for you.

CactusPeach · 03/07/2024 11:33

It's his insecurities, only he can make it better. There is no way for you to 'manage' it and you shouldn't have to.

2catsandhappy · 03/07/2024 11:36

Yes @cccb I got out. It was the most awful controlling abusive violent relationship I have ever experienced. Lucky for me, I got too old for his tastes and he married someone and left me to find that out on Facebook. So relieved and happy.
I am surprised I am alive really. No MN about then. Hadn't heard of red flags.

He used to say, "Me being jealous proves that I love you."
Him turning up at my workplace, "Wanted to surprise you."
Following me was, "Looking after you, I was worried."
Telling me what clothes to wear, "You might attract the wrong sort of attention."
Phoning at 2am was, "Missed you, was thinking about you."
Not letting me visit my parents, "You might not come back."

Chalk him up to experience, let him go to find what he wants. In future, keep your private life private, and say "no" to little things early on, to gauge how he reacts.

PraiseTheSunshine · 03/07/2024 11:40

I think it's called "retroactive jealousy" and unless he addresses his unhealthy fixation on your past then I think this relationship is doomed.

I personally couldn't put up with that kind of behaviour, what exactly does he want you to do? go back in time and remain celebate until you meet him 🙄

TrainedByCats · 03/07/2024 11:42

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:45

And btw i am not sure i have had full sex with 20 guys at all, but just that i have had sexual relations (lol.. for want of a better word) with probably that many, i have been sexually active since 16 and i spent my whole 20s in London, so i don't think it's that odd at all. But for him, he thinks it is shocking anyone can have sex without being in love. He wouldnt sleep with me for >3 months for this reason and had ED related to it. Ughhh.

If it mattered to him he either shouldn’t have asked or he should have decided then you weren’t for him, he didn’t do either of these things. He used that discussion to get ammunition to use against you and he’s never going to stop.

The apologies also sound majorly manipulative. No amount of things in common are worth living like this.

This is not going to get better, cut your losses now.

Tengreenbottles2 · 03/07/2024 11:43

Nutter alert! He sounds like he is pathologically insecure and jealous. Nothing you ever do or say will be able to put him at ease.

He's fixating on perfectly normal things you did in your life. He's jealous of people he has absolutely no reason to be jealous of. He'll never be able to compete with the other men in your past, because he has built up such a weird, shiny perfect image of them and of your past relationships. I mean, being jealous because you enjoy music sung by men???!!!

I'd be running for the hills, honestly. It'll only get worse.

And don't fall for the sunk cost fallacy!!!

Julyshouldbesunny · 03/07/2024 11:44

Tmi...
My exh was controlling and judgey in a similar way. .. I had a dc and previously lived with their df.. ... When I left him he claimed our relationship never had a chance... That I kept him at arms length.. The proof being I refused to let him change my tampons...
Grim I tell you. .

Thoughtful2355 · 03/07/2024 11:45

Sorry but this is abuse. He is only lightly showing it but once you are trapped that's it, he will show more. Run

WeeOrcadian · 03/07/2024 11:49

"he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as I am with him,"

He's a walking red flag

You say that you'll miss him - you won't miss the controlling behaviour that is already evident, despite being not very far into the relationship.

Trust your instincts on this one OP

Run - don't walk

ashleysilver · 03/07/2024 11:49

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

I grew up in the USA and can confirm that dr appointment thing is not the norm there. Quite the opposite, especially for conservative people they have a strong sense of modesty.

It's controlling behaviour, pure and simple.

bringoutthebranston · 03/07/2024 11:50

Julyshouldbesunny · 03/07/2024 11:44

Tmi...
My exh was controlling and judgey in a similar way. .. I had a dc and previously lived with their df.. ... When I left him he claimed our relationship never had a chance... That I kept him at arms length.. The proof being I refused to let him change my tampons...
Grim I tell you. .

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