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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
L0bstersLass · 03/07/2024 10:45

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:44

The dr appt thing is odd right? he is from the USA, by the way. Not the deep south/super conservative area, or anything extreme like that.

It's unacceptable.

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:45

And btw i am not sure i have had full sex with 20 guys at all, but just that i have had sexual relations (lol.. for want of a better word) with probably that many, i have been sexually active since 16 and i spent my whole 20s in London, so i don't think it's that odd at all. But for him, he thinks it is shocking anyone can have sex without being in love. He wouldnt sleep with me for >3 months for this reason and had ED related to it. Ughhh.

OP posts:
Laura36TTC · 03/07/2024 10:46

Get rid now! 😩

Donotgogentle · 03/07/2024 10:46

You don’t have to justify how many men you’ve slept with to us or anyone.

Sparklfairy · 03/07/2024 10:46

and he is worried i will see his true self and leave him

hahahahaha the IRONY

TomatoSandwiches · 03/07/2024 10:47

OP he knows exactly what he is doing, apologising isn't good enough if he isn't doing the work on himself and HIS problem.
Actions not words, anyone can say whatever they like but if they don't take action then it's just lies isn't it.

He isn't your problem to fix, the longer ypu stay and the more times you put up with his crap and the more fake apologies you take the more abusive he will become.

You've spotted who he is so do the smart thing and git rid of him, you've done nothing wrong, you don't deserve to be abused over your past relationships.

Brexile · 03/07/2024 10:47

When you LTB, he's likely to make some pretty outlandish threats. He'll threaten to tell everybody what a slut you are, threaten to kill himself. Just remember that he doesn't get to define who you are (and probably nobody will listen to his self-pitying rants anyway) and if he was really going to kill himself over getting dumped, he'd have done so years ago.

LTB and leave him to his ridiculous drama. He's full of sh1t and he knows it.

SnowFrogJelly · 03/07/2024 10:47

LTB

BeckiWithAnI · 03/07/2024 10:47

A post that long for a relationship of a year. Nope. Nothing worth saving if this crap is your honeymoon period.

ltappleby · 03/07/2024 10:50

I would end the relationship, but to side track a bit - is it usual to make full disclosure, with all the ins and outs of one night stands etc? I’ve never got into that with DH and he never asked. I don’t see why it’s relevant really.

SweeneyToddFlyingSquad · 03/07/2024 10:51

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:45

And btw i am not sure i have had full sex with 20 guys at all, but just that i have had sexual relations (lol.. for want of a better word) with probably that many, i have been sexually active since 16 and i spent my whole 20s in London, so i don't think it's that odd at all. But for him, he thinks it is shocking anyone can have sex without being in love. He wouldnt sleep with me for >3 months for this reason and had ED related to it. Ughhh.

Im a bloke and whether youve slept with 20 or 40 blokes its got fuck all to do with him..i wouldnt waste another minute of your life..he even said you would see his true self...he knows what hes doing

TemuSpecialBuy · 03/07/2024 10:51

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:02

Thinking of it, a while back i asked him to meet me at the dr as i had a gp appointment and we could meet after, but he arrived before my appt and then said he wanted to come into the appt with me as he likes 'to be involved with everything', I kept lightheartedly saying im an adult and i don't need anyone else in my dr appt, which i could tell vaguely annoyed him. He said in his culture it's more normal for couples to go to the gp together..... It is an english speaking western country and i have a lot of friends/fam from there and i highly doubt that is the case. It was odd at the time that he didnt just shrug it off like 'ok no worries' but kind of argued with me about whether he should come into my dr appt?!!?

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just no.

end it asap and certainly don’t breed with him

Georgieporgypud · 03/07/2024 10:54

All of it is bad but especially looking for your honeymoon photos online is seriously creepy. Bin him, he's bad news.

SavetheNHS · 03/07/2024 10:54

His insecurities are not your problem.

His insecurities are a way to get compassion from you.

His insecurities are a way to control you.

He has shown his true self and it's not very nice.

He's hoping you will say that you love him for who he truly is and that you will help him with his insecurities by staying at home more, dressing how he wants, doing what he wants. Do not do that.

He is using coercive control.

It will only get worse.

Beamur · 03/07/2024 10:55

I don't think this is recoverable.
He's chronically jealous and controlling and it's only going to get worse.

2catsandhappy · 03/07/2024 10:57

In my experience @cccb men do not get over sexual jealousy. I too had the lulled into a false sense of security and was too honest and open too soon.
I had things I said thrown back in my face for nearly 20 years. I was quizzed for hours, like some sort of court room barrister, as he tried to find differences between what I said before and what I said now.

He would do this several times a year.

Nothing you say, nothing, will satisfy him. He will always be jealous and always feel inadequate and always be suspicious.

Maybe you will think to yourself, I will answer every question honestly. You are giving him fuel and ammunition. If you decide, no, not answering any more questions. You are now hiding something, he knew you were hiding something! You lied! What else have you lied about!

It absolutely does not stop. Save yourself, save your sanity and well being.
Get out. Learn these warning signs he is giving you.

Olivia2495 · 03/07/2024 10:58

I suggest he is not as upset about your past as he claims. After all he continued to date you after he knew this. It’s nothing more than a stick to beat you with.

Get rid of him immediately and never discuss your previous relationships with a man again, it’s none of their business.

Floorbard · 03/07/2024 10:59

Just from the title I thought aye LTB! After reading your whole post I can’t stress enough how you should leave this nasty controlling wee arse.

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:59

omg @2catsandhappy yes to the cross examining. he says he is great at spotting discrepancies in what people say, even where it is an honest mistake, he assumes he cant trust anyone and he says he believes most people are not honest (unlike him) and just do what they need to get what they want. He has cros examined me on stuff i said about my marriage/honeymoon before, ages ago, as well as more recent stuff. Its exhausting. How did your relationship pan out, did you leave?

OP posts:
cccb · 03/07/2024 11:00

yes he also continues/d to date me after knowing i had an affair before, but now says it speaks to the kind of person i am and he doesnt want it to happen to him, but at the same time he won't break up with me and he wants to be with me forever!? it all feels like a stick to beat me with.

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WayOutOfLine · 03/07/2024 11:01

I don't think you have done anything wrong to date- you met a guy, you had a lot in common, but over time you watched his behaviour and listened to what he had to say, and it turns out that as you've got to know him better and deeper, he's not a great guy underneath at all.

That's why we don't rush into marriage or babies! You gave it a shot and it hasn't turned out so well.

The only wrong thing to do would be now you know this information to bury it and carry on in a sunk costs fallacy. Even worse, if he's controlling with you, I suspect he will be with your child and he doesn't sound mature enough emotionally to be a good dad to him.

You have to give people a chance in life, you did, he's not nice, move on, you haven't stuffed up, you are sensible posting here as you know this isn't right or normal. Good luck!

EmmaOvary · 03/07/2024 11:01

Fuck, no. He’s an abuser. This many red flags this soon? Get out and don’t look back. Future you will thank you.

Icanttakethisanymore · 03/07/2024 11:02

cccb · 03/07/2024 10:09

I just have gotten so invested. I would miss him in a lot of ways. I am very worried though about getting in another bad relationship. The arguing and his little jabs are just too much. The honeymoon website search really shocked me tbh after being together a year. And bringing up my bf from when i was 19. So yeah, i guess i do know the answer. It just really sucks to feel like i wasted this much time and ignored so many red flags.

Edited

Ending a bad relationship is like planting a tree - the best time to do it was ages ago but the 2nd best time to do it is now. You can't change the past but you can choose not to spend any more of your future on him. He is playing the victim and trying to control you.

oakleaffy · 03/07/2024 11:03

@cccb He sounds paranoid and very insecure.

I'd drop him as it's not going to get any better.

Greydays10 · 03/07/2024 11:04

Controlling, abusive and completely toxic.
The doctor appointment.....unbelievable.
Get the hell away from him and keep him away from your children at all cost.
Involve the police immediately if he is in any way aggressive.
He is unhinged.

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