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He is jealous of 'my past' and I'm sick of it. LTB?

271 replies

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

OP posts:
scoobysnaxx · 03/07/2024 11:05

OMG GET RID.

And absolutely SCHOOL him in the process by telling him he is insecure and controlling for and needs therapy asap.

Women's sexual histories are none of your business or concern and he has no right to even know about them, let alone judge them. Stop being an insecure misogynistic asshole.

MulberryRaspberry · 03/07/2024 11:06

And his plus points are ???

redalex261 · 03/07/2024 11:06

Please, please, please walk away. People who behave this way don’t change. They can’t even if they say they want to. They torture their partner (and themselves) with their jealousy over things that can’t be changed and shouldn’t be asked about. It ruins every relationship they have. Bet even his wife he got with at 18 was grilled about school age romances, did she fancy that guy at work, was that other guy coming in to her. And so on. Get yourself the fuck away. Now.

SamW98 · 03/07/2024 11:07

OP you know the reality that he’s an unhinged controlling manipulative abuse cunt.

Hes worried you’ll see his true self means he’s an even bigger dickhead than you’ve already realised.

Dont waste another day on this wanker - dump his pathetic arse and don’t engage in any communication.

user1469770863 · 03/07/2024 11:07

sweetie, very old gimmer here, old enough to be your parent. I'll say what I've said to others ... you deserve better.

Olivia2495 · 03/07/2024 11:08

and he is worried i will see his true self and leave him

What a confession!

He openly told you he knows you will be revolted by his true self. As an pp said there is more to be revealed.

And of course he wants to be with you forever. His need to be a controlling bully is being met, and he will not get those needs met elsewhere very easily. Most women will not tolerate being interrogated and berated like that.

MyCatHatesSandals · 03/07/2024 11:10

He is controlling, and he will not change. All the things that you list that you have in common are surface issues and a sign of an immature relationship.

Ditch him. And, if you feel up to it, explore some of what you've written to us here with a therapist.

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:10

@Olivia2495 so you think that was almost like a tell? his words: "I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"
Which seems odd if he's so honest etc. Why would he worry about that otherwise. from a 45 y o man, it just is so exhausting.

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 03/07/2024 11:10

I'm surprised he has not tried to move in with you to control you even more.

timenowplease · 03/07/2024 11:10

Run as fast as you can. He sounds nuts and will turn abusive.

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:11

@Bananalanacake he has pushed for us to move in together for months but obviously as i havent let him around my dc (which i think is just good sense), it just isnt on the cards anytime soon and i have said that, but he keeps saying how much money we will save and how if we love each other we should live together. I put it down to him not having dc so not knowing any better about these things but....

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 03/07/2024 11:12

Rondel · 03/07/2024 09:55

This. No amount of shared tastes can make up for this. He’s a horror.

This - don’t focus on the shared tastes. Focus on his awful attitudes- and walk away now.

IveShaggedSomeMingers · 03/07/2024 11:13

Why did his ex-wife divorce him? (rhetorical question)
Just bin him @cccb .

YouJustDoYou · 03/07/2024 11:13

"He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me"

Oh God, what a line! Op, he's fed you that one, don't believe it for a second.

"Thinking of it, a while back i asked him to meet me at the dr as i had a gp appointment and we could meet after, but he arrived before my appt and then said he wanted to come into the appt with me as he likes 'to be involved with everything"

MORE RED FLAGS THAN CHINA.

Shoxfordian · 03/07/2024 11:14

So many red flags
Have you done the freedom programme?

greenpolarbear · 03/07/2024 11:15

exhausted just reading that, no idea how (or why) you're living it.

why are there so many people in your relationship with you? because he's dragging them in there

YouJustDoYou · 03/07/2024 11:15

"I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"

Oh God, just more horrors coming out of his manipulative mouth. OP, please, please run, if you were my daughter I'd be so worried for you and tell you to see him for what he's already shown you he is!!!!

supercali77 · 03/07/2024 11:15

Absolutely, get the hell out of this one. I know you'll be sad for what you thought this relationship might be, and that's difficult, but the end of this road is a really bad one

TomatoSandwiches · 03/07/2024 11:17

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:10

@Olivia2495 so you think that was almost like a tell? his words: "I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"
Which seems odd if he's so honest etc. Why would he worry about that otherwise. from a 45 y o man, it just is so exhausting.

It's also a form of reverse psychology, he is hoping that by saying he fears you will leave because of xyz that you will go against that instinct to prove him wrong.

He is a manipulative bastard op, you can't trust a word out of his mouth, anything he says or does will be for his benefit.

You also don't need to have children to know it's sensible to go slow with a partner that has children.
He has no respect for you to argue about your very reasonable boundaries.

SamW98 · 03/07/2024 11:19

cccb · 03/07/2024 11:10

@Olivia2495 so you think that was almost like a tell? his words: "I worry that I won't live up to your expectations, that you'll decide I'm not the person you thought I was and you'll leave"
Which seems odd if he's so honest etc. Why would he worry about that otherwise. from a 45 y o man, it just is so exhausting.

It’s only exhausting because you’re giving him too much headspace trying to understand rather than seeing the massive red flags he’s waving in your face. Hes a manipulative piece of shit.

Literally his every word and action screams abuser - don’t ignore the big flashing alarm bells because you’ll miss him if he’s out around.

Every word of your OP is classic love bombing then devaluing. It can only get worse not better - run don’t walk

andthat · 03/07/2024 11:19

cccb · 03/07/2024 09:41

I've been in a relationship with a man for just over a year. And tbh I feel like a fog is lifting and i can see that the relationship may be toxic, I think i just dont want to let it go as i really bought into 'us' and everything he said to me, he has seemed like the perfect guy for me - very similar taste in music, movies, books, a major shared hobby, both love travel and want the same things out of life, strong physical attraction etc etc. He is 45, I am 36. Both divorced. I have one dc, he has none but says this was because he knew he and his wife wouldn't last but that he would want children of his own, with me. At times it has seemed so good to be true, how much he says he loves me and how he has never felt like this before.

But. I find him quite domineering and possibly controlling/jealous, and I can't push it down and put on the rosy glasses anymore. Since I've met him, he has had a problem with my 'past', as in the fact I have had a few relationships and one night stands as well as obviously being married before. He had 2 gfs as a teen before meeting his wife at 18 and then they were together for 24 years. I was married 7 years, before that had about 4 2-year relationships and in between had some fun, nothing crazy just casual stuff/ons. Pretty normal I think for a 36 year old woman in this day and age. But for him, he says he can't have sex without love/feelings, and he has only slept with 4 women including me, whereas my 'number' is probably more like 20. He brings this up a lot, asking me if i did things (such as taking a bath with him, or certain sex stuff) with other boyfriends, and being a little weird about the idea of it. He also makes comments about how if I loved other boyfriends and those relationships ended, how do I know I wont lose feelings for him too. At the start, when we were friends first before dating, he encouraged me to be open with him and open up but i think that I shared way too much as i felt too comfortable with him, now he uses stuff against me I said months ago.

The other night, he also said he'd searched me and my ex husband online as he wanted to know if I had been in love with my ex-H as much as i am with him, and found our honeymoon website and he said i had misrepresented my (very unhappy, emotionally abusive) marriage when i had talked about it because i'd had this 'huge' (it was actually pretty small) wedding and romantic honeymoon, 7 years ago(!) According to him because he had a cheap reg office wedding and no honeymoon, his own marriage doesn't count as a sign of that type of 'love' and he and his wife were just like friends. He then called into question that i had had a boyfriend from his country (when i was 19) and that although he had also had girlfriends at that age, he hadn't been 'travelling round the world having sex with them'. He is also frequently saying stuff like he doesn't know who I really am and he isn't sure he can trust me, because i had an 'exit affair' from my marriage which I deeply, deeply regret (it wasnt with him.) Then other times he says he thinks i am amazing and he wants to be with me forever. He is upset i havent told my ex-h i am seeing someone else, although we have very little contact now He also says I am too obsessed with talented people (well, men) as I love a lot of male singers/actors and he says I will just leave him for the next shiny thing. Case in point, we went to a one man play at the theatre which I love as it's so intimate and a strong actor can really carry a whole play, and afterwards he sulked all the way home then started an argument saying I obviously fancied the guy (who was middle aged and not attractive at all) because I said i really enjoyed the play. He is also jealous of my dd's bio dad who I havent had contact with for 3 years, because i once said I had really been in love with him (before he left me when i was pregnant) and he has more than once said if dd bio dad came back, he thinks I would leave for him, which is really nuts IMO.

He had a religious upbringing and has some pretty conservative ideas about money, politics, and his brothers and dad sound awful with DV and treating their women badly. He prides himself on not being 'like them' but actually i think maybe he is misogynistic, like Mr Sensitive in lundy bancroft!?

He says he is not jealous, he says he is not controlling, that he doesnt care about my past, but I actually think that is BS. I don't think he will ever get over the fact that unlike him I didnt have just one relationship for my whole adult life. That I have had sex outside of a relationship. He even once said he wished we were both virgins when we met(! given our ages!!) and that he didn't like thinking I had loved other men before and he wants to 'feel like someone special'. I constantly tell him how much I love him, I have written him love poems, etc.. but it is never enough. His insecurity is just killing it. We have argued so many times about this stuff and today i just feel done, but not even sad about it.

This will not get better, right? Or can it, if i lay it on the line now?

Oh come on OP.

Read that back.

And if you don’t come to the conclusion that you need to leave then I suggest you do some work on yourself.

This will get worse. Not better.

BobbyBiscuits · 03/07/2024 11:20

He sounds like he has the emotional maturity of a toddler. This is an absolute car crash of a relationship and I think you know it.
He's gaslighting you, making snide comments. You really don't have all that much in common at all. He's extremely conservative, no matter how much he protests he's not like his family. He thinks it's a disgrace for an adult woman to have consenting sex with whoever she pleases?
Out of interest, how is he in bed? He sounds like the sort that's so repressed he's never given a woman oral sex and doesn't know if someone's had an orgasm or not, or care.
Please get rid of this sorry excuse for a penis owner.

Avatartar · 03/07/2024 11:21

OP i think you are going to have trouble in shaking this limpet off and out of your life. Stop trying to debate with him. It doesn’t matter what he think you should do or wants you to do. He’s not making you happy, he’s encroaching and enforcing his will on you. He’s trying to make you feel bad for existing before he swooped into your life to show you the way and take charge. Be clear with him, it’s over and you don’t engage when he starts picking away at why or why you’re wrong about it and how you've taken it the wrong way or misunderstood him- just end it

Greatmate · 03/07/2024 11:21

Dump him. He is incredibly insecure. The researching you and your ex gives me stalker vibes. He's, not so quietly, judging you for all your sexual escapades.

In future don't share information about your past. My husband doesn't know my body count and he doesn't need to know. He has no idea. I have been commited and faithful to him for 15 years. That is all he needs to know.

JLou08 · 03/07/2024 11:21

I was already thinking leave when I read he was with a woman 24 years but claims he knew it wouldn't last. It got even worse after that.
He is massively insecure and that type of jealously about ex partners is bound to be transfered to your child. Huge red flags with this one and it's still early on in the relationship. I could only see this getting worse as time goes on. Get out before he causes you or your child any damage.

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