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Husband has told me he is going to Thailand.

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Ilivetosleep · 16/05/2024 20:34

My husbands older brother turns 50 this year. He is married and hads a new born baby. This afternoon when I got home from work ,my husband has declared that him, his brother, his nephew and two of their cousins are going to Thailand for his 50th. He hasn't mentioned this to me before and we have 4 kids and custody of my niece. Would you find this odd and worrying??

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Bub1765 · 18/05/2024 14:01

TheCadoganArms · 18/05/2024 13:47

As alluded to up thread using prostitutes in the UK involves a certain degree of criminal risk, the trade is hidden mostly behind closed doors, there is more of a stigma attached to it and it's more expensive. In Thailand the police largely don't give a shit, there is almost a veneer of legitimacy about it given that it is so openly available with the front of house of brothels looking like normal bars with sport on the TV or live music playing. I think some men think believe they are not really engaging in the sex trade if they are only enjoying a few cold beers while watching a 'show', after all you not actually having sex, it's just a bit of harmless fun isn't it?

The criminal risk in the UK is extremely low. But putting that aside, in Australia it is legal and very in your face if you walk down the wrong street. But no one worries about men going there.

FairyBreadQueen · 18/05/2024 15:56

With every single post you reveal yourself @Bub1765

ExtraOnions · 18/05/2024 15:58

My husband has just been in Thailand for 3 weeks, with an all male group .. I can 100% tell you, there were not there for the sex industry. They were there for thier hobby (which isn’t sex workers)

TheCadoganArms · 18/05/2024 16:32

ExtraOnions · 18/05/2024 15:58

My husband has just been in Thailand for 3 weeks, with an all male group .. I can 100% tell you, there were not there for the sex industry. They were there for thier hobby (which isn’t sex workers)

I flew to Thailand on my own a few years ago to meet up with some mates flying over from Australia as we had booked a two week live aboard dive holiday in the Similan Islands. I felt a bit conscious as a 40 something man landing in Bangkok on my own but there is bugger all I can do about that. I don't believe for an instant that all men travelling to Thailand are sex tourists but the fact remains a sizable number are just that. I have read figures that suggest over 250,000 men a year specifically visit the country for sex.

Boomer55 · 18/05/2024 16:56

If it’s affordable, then I wouldn’t worry. People can cheat anywhere.

Mmhmmn · 18/05/2024 17:01

Ilivetosleep · 16/05/2024 21:05

He has been away before with the same group and his 'sensible' brother. Who apparently doesn't want to go on this trip.

Oh dear. The red flags are definitely stacking up. Whatever else happens, don't have sex with him on his return without a clear STI test ................................................. His non-sensible brother sounds like a turd and a v bad influence

MistyRoseBlue · 18/05/2024 17:12

I often wonder if there were Go Go bars and strip joints in streets in areas of some of the UK seaside resorts like there are in Thailand would men go to these? Or too scared of having their faces plastered over SM

MistyRoseBlue · 18/05/2024 17:16

How many of these men that go to Thailand have told their wives and girlfriends they have gone away in a business trip to work and have sneaked of to Thailand ?

Someone know did this , made out he was working away but took annual leave and took his fancy woman to Spain . He got caught when there was a home emergency and when his wife rang his works was told he was away on annual leave . I wonder how many times that had been done !

greenbeansrock · 18/05/2024 17:39

Bub1765 · 18/05/2024 13:59

@OpalSpirit The feeling is mutual.

If your ex knows your username and reading this thread

💪 you’re doing the right thing

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/05/2024 17:47

MistyRoseBlue · 18/05/2024 17:12

I often wonder if there were Go Go bars and strip joints in streets in areas of some of the UK seaside resorts like there are in Thailand would men go to these? Or too scared of having their faces plastered over SM

It's not even go go bars and strip joints. It's everywhere. We had to seek out specifically identified Thai massage schools and the like because most other ones offered a 'happy ending'. FIL and MIL had a massage in a very boring looking place and she got a normal massage and he was offered sex. Normal bars in normal streets. I don't really go to AI resorts so maybe it's' avoidable there. But the tourist areas of the cities, it's not.

Sex tourism is 10-12% of the GDP of Thailand @Bub1765 so not really like Australia.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 18/05/2024 22:26

Bub1765 · 18/05/2024 13:46

You can disagree all you like but unless you can demonstrate it then it's kind of meaningless. Most men think paying for sex is disgusting and that's not likely to change if someone approaches them on the street on holiday.

If it was true you'd be even less likely to let your partners go to Australia than Thailand. Yet people don't think of majority white Australia as a sex tourist location despite brothels being legal there, yet they do think of non-white Thailand being like that. Funny that...

@Pinkfluffypencilcase I imagine every user considers themselves "different" wherever they do it. The alternative is that they are a weird creep and no one wants to think of themselves as a weird creep.

As I’ve stated previously they possibly aren’t paying for sex. But they will get the gf experience. They’ll be flattered etc. It is not like other places.

Catsmere · 18/05/2024 23:25

Bub1765 · 18/05/2024 13:46

You can disagree all you like but unless you can demonstrate it then it's kind of meaningless. Most men think paying for sex is disgusting and that's not likely to change if someone approaches them on the street on holiday.

If it was true you'd be even less likely to let your partners go to Australia than Thailand. Yet people don't think of majority white Australia as a sex tourist location despite brothels being legal there, yet they do think of non-white Thailand being like that. Funny that...

@Pinkfluffypencilcase I imagine every user considers themselves "different" wherever they do it. The alternative is that they are a weird creep and no one wants to think of themselves as a weird creep.

You do get that child rape is illegal here and despite Australia's huge trafficking problem, trafficked children openly soliciting in resorts and the nonces who abuse them being at no risk, isn't a feature of life here? Again you're comparing apples and oranges in an effort to defend rapists by crying NAMALT and pretending it's racism to say these men are picking Thailand as the place to find victims with no effort.

Catsmere · 18/05/2024 23:29

Mmhmmn · 18/05/2024 17:01

Oh dear. The red flags are definitely stacking up. Whatever else happens, don't have sex with him on his return without a clear STI test ................................................. His non-sensible brother sounds like a turd and a v bad influence

OP updated that her husband was "winding her up" because she's "gullible" and never intended going. Which still makes him sound like an arsehole, imo.

InWalksBarberalla · 18/05/2024 23:37

Bub1765 · 18/05/2024 14:01

The criminal risk in the UK is extremely low. But putting that aside, in Australia it is legal and very in your face if you walk down the wrong street. But no one worries about men going there.

Oh come off it - there is no comparison between Australia and Thailand in this respect. Your are either incredibly naive or full of shit.

Catsmere · 18/05/2024 23:42

InWalksBarberalla · 18/05/2024 23:37

Oh come off it - there is no comparison between Australia and Thailand in this respect. Your are either incredibly naive or full of shit.

His behaviour all through this thread alone says it's the latter.

mirax · 19/05/2024 02:53

InWalksBarberalla · 18/05/2024 23:37

Oh come off it - there is no comparison between Australia and Thailand in this respect. Your are either incredibly naive or full of shit.

I would go for the full of shite option.

popcornalto · 19/05/2024 03:53

I live I South East Asia , and I have been to Thailand 20 times with my husband for the food, temples, shopping, beaches, massages, excellent medical tourism, amazing food etc. 5 star resorts,
pattaya (sleazy), Bangkok, Phuket, etc.

While the majority of thai people are gentle, conservative, there is a very in your face sex industry, especially around the bars etc. There is a very seedy side.

Groups of fat balding Middle Age men travelling as a pack are not there for the cultural antiquities. They are there for sex.

greenbeansrock · 19/05/2024 08:51

mirax · 19/05/2024 02:53

I would go for the full of shite option.

you’re being generous i suspect

Mmhmmn · 19/05/2024 22:50

Catsmere · 18/05/2024 23:29

OP updated that her husband was "winding her up" because she's "gullible" and never intended going. Which still makes him sound like an arsehole, imo.

ooops haha must read full thread in future! Phew to him not going. tend to agree that the joke because she’s “gullible” doesn’t reflect that well on him. The poor SIL though… words should be had!

Catsmere · 19/05/2024 22:53

Mmhmmn · 19/05/2024 22:50

ooops haha must read full thread in future! Phew to him not going. tend to agree that the joke because she’s “gullible” doesn’t reflect that well on him. The poor SIL though… words should be had!

I've been caught by not reading the full thread many times, too! 😄

mitch00 · 20/05/2024 00:04

If your husband goes tonThailand then you should start making plans for yourself and your kids because he is a scumbag like the rest of the Western men who go to Thailand and pay for sex with girls and young women. Don't be in denial. It is the reality. Be strong and don't stay and waste the rest of your life with a liar and a gaslighter and someone who has no morals. Disgusting low life's.

Catsmere · 20/05/2024 00:14

@mitch00 , I agree with everything you said about the men who do this, but OP updated that he isn't going. He was (purportedly) winding OP up. His slimy brother is going.

mitch00 · 20/05/2024 00:21

He might not go now but there is always tomorrow. If it is the culture of his family then it won't be surprising if it happens in the future. He could say he is going for business and other excuses.

Catsmere · 20/05/2024 00:26

Half and half - the other brother (OP called him the sensible one iirc) isn't going. But yes, the creep brother and the fact husband supposedly thought it would be funny to say this because she's "gullible" make me side-eye him.

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