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Anyone else quietly disappointed in their adult child's choice of partner?

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ohthejoys21 · 10/05/2024 17:24

To state the obvious as ds is in his early 20's, I'm well aware it's not my business and his life.

But he's made his long term choice (intends to commit to her as soon as able) and despite not being depressed and having a full life, I feel like I'm carrying around this sadness.

No one in my family likes her. Even dd who loves everyone, She's rude and cold to us. Of course by now I'm sure she can sense we don't like her but we all made such an effort for so long. Never says hello/bye when she's here. My mother's brother died, she came round after the funeral and didn't even say hello to my mother. Generally brings out the worst in ds.

We can't say anything to him can we or we'll lose him. Not sure what I'm looking for here.. when I say I've tried, I really have. It's just awful and I'm so sad.

OP posts:
Askingforafriendtoday · 16/05/2024 15:07

'You, despite that you're son is still with her, thinks that she brings out the worse on him' says @NewmumtoPickles2023

Most mothers and fathers, even step parents, who have brought their children up as far as adulthood know them well enough to notice when any friend - from schoolday friends to serious, long term partners - bring out the worse in their sons/daughters and do not necessarily make them happy. This causes them much sadness and worry as is clear from OP's post

PoochiesPinkEars · 16/05/2024 17:52

@Askingforafriendtoday 👌

Takeaways · 16/05/2024 23:05

Askingforafriendtoday · 16/05/2024 15:07

'You, despite that you're son is still with her, thinks that she brings out the worse on him' says @NewmumtoPickles2023

Most mothers and fathers, even step parents, who have brought their children up as far as adulthood know them well enough to notice when any friend - from schoolday friends to serious, long term partners - bring out the worse in their sons/daughters and do not necessarily make them happy. This causes them much sadness and worry as is clear from OP's post

Yet it seems OP's DH might have another perspective if he were asked. He seems to get on well with the GF.

Littlestminnow · 17/05/2024 16:43

saraclara · 16/05/2024 12:52

Basically disliking or being disappointed in your mother in law is absolutely fine, if not positively encouraged, on Mumsnet.

But to dislike your prospective daughter in law is a heinous crime.

Astute observation. Why do you think that is? Ageism?

pikkumyy77 · 18/05/2024 15:02

I disagree with the blanket statement that disliking MIL is prevalent or encouraged in contrast to the mumsnet position on children’s partners.

Plenty of threads are serviley pro parental prerogatives and female posters, writing about their experiences with their husband’s family, are routinely excoriated for failing to mend or care for that relationship, for being presumptuous when wanting more (or less) contact or help.

News flash: different posters take radically different approaches to the posted dilemma depending on their own personal experience and their social status. Sometimes the same poster will take a different position on different posts.

Some older women are very sympathetic to the dilemma of new brides, remembering their own struggles. Some are hostile to the new DIL, or the post reporting her experience, because they remember poor treatment by their own DIL.

Some new DIL long for acceptance and connection with their partners family but are denied it. Commenters either sympathize or blame them for having unreasonable expectations.

Sweden99 · 18/05/2024 16:11

@pikkumyy77, yes! Exactly that, far more than what I think.

SerafinasGoose · 19/05/2024 11:59

I disagree with the blanket statement that disliking MIL is prevalent or encouraged in contrast to the mumsnet position on children’s partners.

Plenty of threads are serviley pro parental prerogatives and female posters, writing about their experiences with their husband’s family, are routinely excoriated for failing to mend or care for that relationship, for being presumptuous when wanting more (or less) contact or help.

I'm with you, @pikkumyy77.

There's a prevailing, not to mention misogynistic assumption that this is wifework and that the responsibility for maintaining harmonious relationships with both sets of in-laws falls to the woman alone. Examples of this are clear upthread. The DiL wouldn't 'let' her husband see his family. What sort of wet lettuce would a man have to be to obey such injunctions? Men are capable creatures; they have individual autonomy; they are more than capable of maintaining a relationship with their family without DiL's input. My own father, brother and husband managed this perfectly well.

I looked at a board on the theme of estrangement. Overwhelmingly, where familial relations had broken down, it was the nearest woman who bore the blame. I suspect there are varying reasons for this. One is the expectation as to women's place. Another is that, if the blame for the breakdown wasn't pointed squarely at the son's wife, then his family might have to revisit their child's upbringing and ask some difficult and painful questions about their own place in the dynamic. Much easier to blame the newcomer.

Complete estrangement is a drastic measure; not one, I suspect, ever taken lightly. Where it happens, the estranged parents almost always say they don't have a clue what they did wrong. They were loving parents and one day, inexplicably, their equally loving son simply cut them off without a word.

This just doesn't ring true. It might be in some rare instances, but I very much doubt it's universally the case. There seems to me to be a strong element of denial entering the mix. Or annoyance about how the family's time is spread between relatives, without recognition of the fact that relationships differ and one size does not fit all.

Who's to say whether this situation would improve if responsibility were redirected to where it belongs? Sons' relationships with their family of origin are their own domain, not that of their wives.

pikkumyy77 · 19/05/2024 12:09

Good post @SerafinasGoose . You are reminding me of the famous series of blog posts on estrangement by Issendai on what she calls the “missing missing reasons” for why a child might choose to avoid or estrange.

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