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Long term affair

271 replies

shitshow1976 · 10/05/2024 11:58

I'm completely expecting to be roasted here. I'm a long term member. Have changed my username.

Approx 15 months ago I started to talk to a guy at work. He offered me his number as I was bringing eggs in from my chickens and he wanted a regular supply from me.
We started messaging/talking daily.
He was fully open about the fact he is married. 2 teenage kids. Things progressed a little. We realised we liked each other. I was very attracted to him but he was off limits being married.

Openly told me he has cheated on his wife repeatedly throughout their 20 year marriage. Mainly one night stands. Several a year. Stayed together for kids sake (1 is epileptic and needs lots of support), don't have sex anymore, live very separately etc (usual script I guess).
This was all new to me. I've never cheated on anyone.

He asked to meet me for sex, I initially turned him down despite me being single.
At that point I hadn't had sex for quite a while and was flattered he wanted to meet me. He's very handsome, fit and well liked/respected in his work. I felt bad for his wife but began thinking that if I turned him down he'd move on to his next one.

I met him. We slept together and have since met weekly for over a year.
We meet during the day for dog walks. We go on dates. Have weekly sex.

I feel fucking terribly guilty about his wife. I've looked her up on FB. She's seems/looks nice. Its clear they lead seperate lives.
He's very respectful when talking about her. States she's a good mum etc.
He's always been open and honest, states he's only ever had one night stands. Wife is apparently aware of his behaviour.
Reckons he hasn't ever done this before. States he's fallen in love with me, seems genuine.

Has started making plans to leave his wife. Has found somewhere to live. Can see us having a future together....

I feel bad for his wife. He says he would have separated eventually and thinks meeting me was the kick up the arse he needed.
Not sure what I'm wanting by posting this. Advice? Words of wisdom?

The sex is amazing. Different level.
He's kind, funny, thoughtful. Makes me feel safe and protected (been in a horrible DV relationship prior to this).

I can't imagine ever being able to trust him. Any advice?

OP posts:
Telemakus · 10/05/2024 13:26

SherrieElmer · 10/05/2024 13:19

She openly admits that he is respectful towards his wife which is a blatantly obvious that is not the case.

It takes a certain type of person to pull the wool over the eyes in such a grandiose way. That is why I think she is the victim.

She's not 6. She is totally clear-eyed.

Plantmother71 · 10/05/2024 13:27

shitshow1976 · 10/05/2024 12:48

Mountaingoat

Quite the opposite. As much as I like him I don't love him and he knows this. I was only ever initually with him for sex.

I've dated a couple of guys over the last year and he knows this.
I don't see a future with him. I think I needed to hear this from complete strangers though.

Can't talk to anyone in real life as I'll be massively judged and I'm not proud of the fact I've been fucking a married man for over a year.
I'm no spring chicken by the way. I have 2 adult kids. I also have money which he is probably aware of.....

I’ve been the wife in this position. I’m not judging you. And yes, I backed away from intimacy with him because I didn’t want an std (which I think he picked up around 3-4 years ago in his past but one affair).

if he knows you are solvent financially the sceptic in me thinks he knows he has someone to move to, so he can afford maintenance but it won’t be quite so financially difficult to start over again, as you’ve a ready made house and lifestyle.

And that makes him totally selfish - because he’s definitely still just thinking of the best life for himself, not for you.

Basically this is sex and money for him - nothing more. Wish I could say otherwise.

Jomummy1013 · 10/05/2024 13:29

M340 · 10/05/2024 12:47

Awwww so much sympathy for you x

I know you are being sarcastic...
However, my situation wasn't as clear-cut as the OP's, but I know how it feels to fall for someone married. It can be far from simple, sadly 😥 x

YouAreLiveOnTelevisionPleaseDoNotSwear · 10/05/2024 13:30

jsku · 10/05/2024 13:25

@YouAreLiveOnTelevisionPleaseDoNotSwear

Of course OP is rational. She is not dreaming of some fairytale. She is not imagining some romantic future. Etc.

OP wasn’t expecting to date the guy. And if it wasn’t with her - the man in question would be having his random encounters with other women or find some other ‘regular’

This sort of arrangement is nothing new and is quite common. Many marriages stay together past their natural life because of kids needs, or just inertia.

No she's not.

She clearly states in the OP that the guy is leaving his wife and she sees a future with him.

M340 · 10/05/2024 13:33

OP is get this thread deleted.

You'll either flounce, or keep shagging him.

But you've included private, personal medical details about a child here which has nothing to do with you, and obviously doesn't stop you from opening your legs to their dad.

I feel so sorry for the mother / wife in this.
I am also a mother and wife going through this. If I found out my husbands woman he was shagging on the side was writing my daughters private medical details online for all and sundry to see, it would genuinely tip me over the edge.

LightSpeeds · 10/05/2024 13:34

Would you like to be in his wife's shoes (being multiply cheated on)? Because you will be if you get together with him (if it even got that far)...

He's dishonest and has no integrity. What a prince!

Nicebloomers · 10/05/2024 13:36

He will likely cheat on you, worse than that is you will worry for the entire relationship that he is cheating on you. Can your self esteem handle that? It sounds like he’s not even discrete about his cheating. It sounds like the office joke. At some point he will feel guilty for upsetting his kids. He should. He will then possibly partly blame you for how complicated his life will get. How reduced his finances will become etc I can’t even touch on how vile he is being to his wife. He should be trying to rebuild his relationship with the person he committed to or getting a divorce before starting up with someone else. Is that REALLY a relationship you want?

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 10/05/2024 13:38

shitshow1976 · 10/05/2024 13:11

Struggling to keep up.

Thirtythrillion. His Home was wrecked well before I came along.
Our colleagues have a good idea. They're also aware of his long previous history of his multiple one nigh stands.

Farnhamgal is your husband a Cop?

You must be so proud.

There's something really wrong if you cannot see the problem with having an affair with a married man. There isn't even a doubt over his character- he's a multi times cheater.

I worked with someone like him and we watched the very predictable car crash of silly women thinking they were different and would be the one who would change him. It's a tale as old as time and always ends in the same way. Your naivety is astounding.

Deipara · 10/05/2024 13:38

I feel so sad for this man's wife and their children. Op why do you think you are attracted to dickheads? Low self esteem usually. By all means crack on shagging this guy but do us the courtesy of not coming back here in x amount of time heartbroken when you find him cheating on you. Because he will.

Dadjoke007 · 10/05/2024 13:40

MissJoGrant · 10/05/2024 12:23

My opinion is different to most on here, I suspect.
Cheating is obviously wrong, of course. However, I think sometimes people are in marriages where they're not happy but maybe it's not horrible enough that to split up. So they (in this case your AP) bumble on through the years thinking 'well I guess I've settled here/don't want to upset the kids etc'.

Then, almost inevitably, they meet someone they actually do like and maybe they fall in love. At that point, because they didn't leave earlier (during the bumbling years) they will always be seen as the bad person in the split.

But people can be happy, despite these beginnings. They can go on to have lovely, long-lasting relationships. They have this second chance. A new relationship in which they don't cheat because they don't want to cheat. They're happy (no more bumbling).

So, loads will be on here to tell you 'once a cheater always a cheater' and 'he's shown you what he is' and 'he'll get bored and move on'. And who knows? Maybe they're right - I don't know either of you.

But neither do they (posters on here).

Looks like you're in a position where you can take a chance (you aren't leaving your own partner/kids for example which would add a lot more heartache obviously!). All relationships are taking a chance.

It could work, OP.
Best of luck to you.

That is a brilliant post and spot on!

Dweetfidilove · 10/05/2024 13:41

M340 · 10/05/2024 12:50

Superperfect?

I'm no super perfect, whatever the hell that is.

I've been on the receiving end of disgusting women who go after married men. Disgusting women who gaslight their actions by expressing 'sympathy and guilt'.

I'm not super perfect. I just have morals, and I'm not an easy homewrecker.

No one has any sympathy for homewreckers, unless they're a homewrecker themselves.

I’ll assure you I’ve never ‘wrecked a home’ (surely a charge that should be levied at the person meant to protect their home), but I have every sympathy for the OP.
Lord knows I’ve seen many men completely devastate their partners and affair partners, leaving complete destruction in their trail.

She sounds vulnerable and is now being bamboozled by Mr 20 year cheater. She now needs to take responsibility for getting her mind right and dumping the sexually incontinent fucker 🤷🏽‍♀️.

takemeawayagain · 10/05/2024 13:41

He sounds like a narcissist, so desperate for attention that he was cheating on his wife as soon as they were married. So confident that women will fall at his feet that he doesn't even bother trying to hide the wife and kids and just straight out asks you for sex. Right now you're on the pedestal, you're providing the supply he needs, if by any slim chance he does leave his wife and get in a relationship with you there's going to be a vacancy in his life. And not one person that knows him will be surprised when he fills it - and you shouldn't be either.

PixelatedLunchbox · 10/05/2024 13:42

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shitshow1976 · 10/05/2024 13:42

You're like a bunch of nasty vipers! If you manage to identify him or his family from his job as a "cop" and his Daughters diagnosis of Epilepsy I'll be amazed!

I'm grateful for the advice the genuine posters have given. It's deffo given me lot to think about.....

OP posts:
adamlambertsbathwater · 10/05/2024 13:42

Glamourising and validating cheating is not spot on.

crackfoxy · 10/05/2024 13:43

If he can do this with you he can also do this to you. Sorry OP I wouldn't be able to trust him

Puppuccino · 10/05/2024 13:45

How is that a brilliant post?

Do something stupid, it might turn out ok. Yeah, you might live in constant paranoia that he'll do the same to you, yeah he might still fuck his wife on the side, but there is a minute chance you'll fly into the sunset...

That's like saying it's fine to get with a convicted felon, what could go wrong? Why not q I it your job and just believe you'll win X Factor

M340 · 10/05/2024 13:45

shitshow1976 · 10/05/2024 13:42

You're like a bunch of nasty vipers! If you manage to identify him or his family from his job as a "cop" and his Daughters diagnosis of Epilepsy I'll be amazed!

I'm grateful for the advice the genuine posters have given. It's deffo given me lot to think about.....

Ain't as nasty is you're appalling behaviour 🤢

Janiie · 10/05/2024 13:46

Op he is a liar and a cheat. He'll do exactly the same to you.

Work on your self esteem and then try to date single men.

Bestyearever2024 · 10/05/2024 13:50

His MO is to cheat..... if he leaves his wife and starts a relationship with you, he'll cheat on you

Maybe that will be OK for you because you say you don't love him and just want him for sex?

I think his wife will be the winner in all this should he leave her. Lucky her if he does

He sounds utterly grim and quite rancid

Whatsmyusername1235 · 10/05/2024 13:53

mountaingoatsarehairy · 10/05/2024 12:41

I mean it does sound like he is taking advantage of you as you have poor boundaries and are obv much more in love with him than he is with you.

maybe head over to the step parents board and have a read there. That might dampen your enthusiasm

100%

Mischance · 10/05/2024 13:54

It is fine for him to be having sex with you AS LONG AS HIS WIFE KNOWS.

Lying is never right.

KiwiOtter · 10/05/2024 13:54
  1. I’m betting the wife doesn’t know.
  2. What an utter tosser he is.
  3. I bet he is also ‘cheating’ on you with someone else

And kick him in the gutter where he belongs.

Wonderingforever · 10/05/2024 13:55

Your fcking a married man.

Engaging in manipulation of another woman's reality daily.

All cause you want good sex.

You don't have the moral high ground.

You don't have a clue what his wife does or doesn't know.

You also don't care. If you did why haven't you confirmed with her? That her marriage is for appearances only and for the kids?

Cheating is black and white.

In life you make decisions daily about how you treat other people. If you are willing to cause them harm. Be it physical/emotional/financial.

You clearly are OK with that own it.

Personally I think people who cheat have poor emotional intelligence, are inheritly selfish, manipulative and usually have a shit load of unresolved emotional issues to fix and those are traits that don't really change.

And save your fake ass sympathy for his wife. You don't have any. Otherwise you wouldn't be having an affair with her husband.

Considering his back ground. No he isn't trust worthy but neither are you.

Janiie · 10/05/2024 13:55

I'm sorry you've experienced domestic abuse previously op. Have you had therapy? Why on earth do you think this man protects you when he sounds an absolute self-centred cunt?
Yes good sex is nice but there really is more to life and more men to have it with.

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