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AmberExpert · 04/05/2024 05:56

First time poster, long-time lurker. Really need some impartial advice as I've no one I can speak too IRL. it's going to be a long one, so you might need a coffee and some biscuits....

Me and my OH are in our early 50s, not married. He's very friendly, outgoing and would do anything for anyone. There's a lady who lives near us who is a similar age to us, widowed three or four years ago. Recently she's started to regularly ask my OH to do jobs for her, putting pictures up, odd jobs around the house, doing gardening, walking her dog, the list goes on. It feels a bit like she says jump and he says how high.... She texts him regularly and will also send other non related texts such as photos of places she's at or events that she's attending or just general how are you texts. She sent a text last weekend saying 'Happy friday' with a picture of a walk she was on. He has recently been admitted to hospital for a few days and she has been texting to see how he is, sending him get well wishes etc. I saw her briefly during this time and was suprised at her level of concern for him.

When he's doing these jobs they always end in a coffee and a chat and he can be there a while. She is fit and active for her age, and I suspect she can do some of these jobs herself. She sometimes offers to pay him but not very often and will sometimes give him a bottle of wine. One of our neighbours commented recently that it's a good job I'm not a jealous person as he spends such a lot of time at her house!

I know her reasonably well, we've got each others mobile number, but she never texts me about anything, its always my OH. He will sometimes ask me to join him when he goes round, sometimes I go, but not often. I don't feel particularly comfortable around her, I'm not sure why, it's unusual for me to be like this.

I have voiced my concerns that she is becoming more 'needy' for want of a better word, and I feel uncomfortable about the amount of time he spends around there, as this is increasing to 3 or 4 times a week. He has told me that he doesn't fancy he's happy to help her, she's a good friend and neighbour and that I'm being paranoid.

Sometimes we can have a rational conversation about this, other times he blows up at me and can get very angry at me and accuses me of not trusting him. I do trust him, but I find the texting and requests for help excessive.

I'm not sure what to think if I'm honest, my gut feeling is that there is something off, I think she likes to have him doing all this for her, she says things like I'm lucky to have a man who can. And if I'm honest I think my OH likes the attention from her.

I've asked if he'll perhaps back off a bit, but he says he's not doing anything wrong and he'll continue to help her. I feel a bit like he's not really considering my feelings, but then I think am I being unreasonable, he's only helping a neighbour?

Please could you give me your honest opinions and if I just need to accept its a friendship and I've nothing to worry about.

thank you if you got this far, sorry its so long.

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isthismylifenow · 06/10/2024 07:29

I'm not sure how I missed your whole post OP, but read through the whole thread.

When I read that you had bought your house, I shouted out yes! as this just solidified that we can come through fire with our heads held high.

I am absolutely with you that it is quite alright to not be open to another relatuonship or old, so just brush off those comments. I think people mean well, but it's so important to find yourself again. People who haven't been though won't understand how much a narcissistic takes from you, and it is like you have to start again to try to find you again. The things you actually like or did I just have to like xyz as ex did for eg.

You have handled with whole situation with such grace. It may not seem like that to you at times, but you absolutely have.

Onwards and upwards 💐

QueenMegan · 06/10/2024 07:52

Can you be friend her find out if she's lonely. I would also give her the number of another handy man and say his rates are reasonable.
The boundaries are blurred with no cash exchange. It's a cheek.

Jhgdsd · 06/10/2024 10:22

So delighted to read this.
You really are inspiring.
Positive updates are always so wonderful to read for others.

Leaving a poor relationship where you are not respected invariably leads to posts like this.
Again and again women update and rejoice in the hard but overwhelmingly positive outcomes of having ditched a twat.

Fundamentally you found your bravery and used it.
You are amazing.

Have a great day.
And remember the goal is to have the boxes emptied within 6 months😙😁

Fannyfiggs · 06/10/2024 18:19

QueenMegan · 06/10/2024 07:52

Can you be friend her find out if she's lonely. I would also give her the number of another handy man and say his rates are reasonable.
The boundaries are blurred with no cash exchange. It's a cheek.

Oh I think we're well past that stage 😁

Fannyfiggs · 06/10/2024 18:21

Brilliant update, I'm really happy for you!

I wish you many happy years in your new home filled with lots of love and celebrations 🎉

beenwhereyouare · 06/10/2024 18:57

AmberExpert · 05/10/2024 20:52

Hello everyone, happy Saturday 🥰

Just wanted to post a quick update, I’ve just moved into my own house. I still can’t believe it, I’m completely upside down, boxes eveywhere, not sure where I’m sleeping tonight….probably be the floor, but that’s ok!
5 months since I started this thread, since I left, and I can’t believe how far I’ve come, never in a million years did I think I would be here, but here I am.

To anyone who’s in a toxic, narcissistic relationship, you can do it, you can leave, start again, it’s not easy, it’s been so hard, is it worth it, YES a million times over, yes. I’m so glad I left, onto my next chapter…..

Love and light to you all xx

Thank you so, so much for the update. I'm happy beyond words to see your progress.

It's rare to see someone really take in and use the advice and support they've been given. But that's what you've done. It takes an incredibly strong person to completely exchange your old life with a new, healthier one, especially in 5 months.

You should be so proud- I know I'm very proud of you! You're ready for that next chapter in your story, and all indications point to a good one. Please let us hear from you, 'k?
💛💛💛

beenwhereyouare · 06/10/2024 18:59

Or not. You decide
😉

AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:15

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 05/10/2024 21:04

Well that’s one fantastic update! Enjoy every moment you have earned it!

Thank you so much, feeling on such a high at the moment! X

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:17

farnworth · 05/10/2024 21:25

So very pleased for you, hope you are very, very happy in your new home.
An inspirational update, thank you - a reminder of the possibility of a happy “ending”. Here’s to your future….!
Hope you sleep well tonight…

Thanks so much, a happy ending and a happier future hopefully.
Still not sleeping well, but I’m sure that will come in time.
i feel a million times happier already x

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:18

LookItsMeAgain · 05/10/2024 21:50

I'm really pleased for you. New house, new job, you're a whole NEW WOMAN!!!!!

Well done you. Have a glass of wine tonight and get a take away too! The unpacking can wait.

Thanks so much, I had a couple of glasses of wine, surrounded by boxes and chaos, but it’s my chaos. It felt good…..

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:20

Ginkypig · 06/10/2024 01:56

Well done @AmberExpert

i knew you could do it and I knew whatever your new life was going to be was going to be great and here we are hearing about you moving into your new home and everything from this thread is becoming your past.

im really happy for you.

Thank you, and thank you so much for all of your support 🥰

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:24

isthismylifenow · 06/10/2024 07:29

I'm not sure how I missed your whole post OP, but read through the whole thread.

When I read that you had bought your house, I shouted out yes! as this just solidified that we can come through fire with our heads held high.

I am absolutely with you that it is quite alright to not be open to another relatuonship or old, so just brush off those comments. I think people mean well, but it's so important to find yourself again. People who haven't been though won't understand how much a narcissistic takes from you, and it is like you have to start again to try to find you again. The things you actually like or did I just have to like xyz as ex did for eg.

You have handled with whole situation with such grace. It may not seem like that to you at times, but you absolutely have.

Onwards and upwards 💐

Oh my goodness, hope you had a cuppa whilst you were reading the whole thread!
Thanks so much for your kind words, which I can tell are spoken from experience. You are spot on, he took so much from me, I felt like I didn’t even know my own name sometimes……but onwards and upwards is the only way to go xx

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:28

Jhgdsd · 06/10/2024 10:22

So delighted to read this.
You really are inspiring.
Positive updates are always so wonderful to read for others.

Leaving a poor relationship where you are not respected invariably leads to posts like this.
Again and again women update and rejoice in the hard but overwhelmingly positive outcomes of having ditched a twat.

Fundamentally you found your bravery and used it.
You are amazing.

Have a great day.
And remember the goal is to have the boxes emptied within 6 months😙😁

Thank you so much for your support. This thread has helped me so very much, and has acted as a diary for how I’ve been feeling and how much things have changed, more than I ever thought possible…..

It’s just so nice not to be looking over my shoulder, feeling anxious, wondering what I’ve done, not done, what he’s doing, not doing. It was exhausting. And I’m only realising now just how awful it was. The fog is definitely lifting.

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:28

Fannyfiggs · 06/10/2024 18:19

Oh I think we're well past that stage 😁

Definitely! 😁

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:29

Fannyfiggs · 06/10/2024 18:21

Brilliant update, I'm really happy for you!

I wish you many happy years in your new home filled with lots of love and celebrations 🎉

Thank you so much, feels good starting a new chapter of my life….😍

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Needapadlockonmyfridge · 06/10/2024 19:34

I am sooooo pleased for you.
Here's to your new chapter!
You rock 🤩

AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 19:36

beenwhereyouare · 06/10/2024 18:57

Thank you so, so much for the update. I'm happy beyond words to see your progress.

It's rare to see someone really take in and use the advice and support they've been given. But that's what you've done. It takes an incredibly strong person to completely exchange your old life with a new, healthier one, especially in 5 months.

You should be so proud- I know I'm very proud of you! You're ready for that next chapter in your story, and all indications point to a good one. Please let us hear from you, 'k?
💛💛💛

Thank you so much for your kind words and your continued support. I feel like I’ve just got my head down, gritted my teeth and pushed through, I don’t think I’ve given myself time to think how hard it’s been to be honest. It feels like my old life was a million years ago, a distant memory, almost like it didn’t happen to me….

Thank you for being proud of me, I’m working on it…😍

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TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 06/10/2024 19:56

Amazing update OP. You're super inspirational and I'm really pleased for you. Brilliant friend you have as well and the support you received here was heartwarming. I love this new chapter for you. Enjoy.

WhatIsThisTomFoolery24 · 06/10/2024 20:28

It sounds a bit like the issue is him diminishing your concerns and putting this "friends" needs and wants over yours. Its not an issue of trust its an issue of respect. Personally, I'd back away for a bit.

AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 20:33

TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 06/10/2024 19:56

Amazing update OP. You're super inspirational and I'm really pleased for you. Brilliant friend you have as well and the support you received here was heartwarming. I love this new chapter for you. Enjoy.

The support I've had on this thread has been overwhelming. My friend is the best, I will never, ever forget what she did for me, she's simply amazing. The best friend anyone could wish for.

I'm looking forward to my new start x

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AmberExpert · 06/10/2024 20:35

WhatIsThisTomFoolery24 · 06/10/2024 20:28

It sounds a bit like the issue is him diminishing your concerns and putting this "friends" needs and wants over yours. Its not an issue of trust its an issue of respect. Personally, I'd back away for a bit.

I've definitely backed away, I left a few months ago, best thing I could have done 😊

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Foxlovesfruit · 06/10/2024 20:38

AmberExpert · 04/05/2024 05:56

First time poster, long-time lurker. Really need some impartial advice as I've no one I can speak too IRL. it's going to be a long one, so you might need a coffee and some biscuits....

Me and my OH are in our early 50s, not married. He's very friendly, outgoing and would do anything for anyone. There's a lady who lives near us who is a similar age to us, widowed three or four years ago. Recently she's started to regularly ask my OH to do jobs for her, putting pictures up, odd jobs around the house, doing gardening, walking her dog, the list goes on. It feels a bit like she says jump and he says how high.... She texts him regularly and will also send other non related texts such as photos of places she's at or events that she's attending or just general how are you texts. She sent a text last weekend saying 'Happy friday' with a picture of a walk she was on. He has recently been admitted to hospital for a few days and she has been texting to see how he is, sending him get well wishes etc. I saw her briefly during this time and was suprised at her level of concern for him.

When he's doing these jobs they always end in a coffee and a chat and he can be there a while. She is fit and active for her age, and I suspect she can do some of these jobs herself. She sometimes offers to pay him but not very often and will sometimes give him a bottle of wine. One of our neighbours commented recently that it's a good job I'm not a jealous person as he spends such a lot of time at her house!

I know her reasonably well, we've got each others mobile number, but she never texts me about anything, its always my OH. He will sometimes ask me to join him when he goes round, sometimes I go, but not often. I don't feel particularly comfortable around her, I'm not sure why, it's unusual for me to be like this.

I have voiced my concerns that she is becoming more 'needy' for want of a better word, and I feel uncomfortable about the amount of time he spends around there, as this is increasing to 3 or 4 times a week. He has told me that he doesn't fancy he's happy to help her, she's a good friend and neighbour and that I'm being paranoid.

Sometimes we can have a rational conversation about this, other times he blows up at me and can get very angry at me and accuses me of not trusting him. I do trust him, but I find the texting and requests for help excessive.

I'm not sure what to think if I'm honest, my gut feeling is that there is something off, I think she likes to have him doing all this for her, she says things like I'm lucky to have a man who can. And if I'm honest I think my OH likes the attention from her.

I've asked if he'll perhaps back off a bit, but he says he's not doing anything wrong and he'll continue to help her. I feel a bit like he's not really considering my feelings, but then I think am I being unreasonable, he's only helping a neighbour?

Please could you give me your honest opinions and if I just need to accept its a friendship and I've nothing to worry about.

thank you if you got this far, sorry its so long.

Ask him how he would feel it it were you going to a single male neighbours house to help out 3/4 times a week and regular texts. Would he be happy with that? I suspect not.

AmberExpert · 07/10/2024 03:47

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 06/10/2024 19:34

I am sooooo pleased for you.
Here's to your new chapter!
You rock 🤩

Thank you so much, I’m really looking forward to this next chapter 😍

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chimichangaz · 08/10/2024 20:52

This is one of the best Mumsnet threads ever - I'm so happy for you op! You had such good advice and support from the posters on here - I'm glad it was really positive for you and you're an inspiration to others who are in the position you were in a few months ago 🥰

AmberExpert · 08/10/2024 21:41

chimichangaz · 08/10/2024 20:52

This is one of the best Mumsnet threads ever - I'm so happy for you op! You had such good advice and support from the posters on here - I'm glad it was really positive for you and you're an inspiration to others who are in the position you were in a few months ago 🥰

Thank you so much, I have been blown away by the support, help and advice I've been given on this thread. It has been my lifeline. I've re-read it numerous times when I've felt low, or wondered if I'd over reacted or if I'd done the right thing by leaving. It's been so hard, but I know I couldn't have carried on with things as they were, and they weren't going to change unless I did something.

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