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Really need an outside perspective please.

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AmberExpert · 04/05/2024 05:56

First time poster, long-time lurker. Really need some impartial advice as I've no one I can speak too IRL. it's going to be a long one, so you might need a coffee and some biscuits....

Me and my OH are in our early 50s, not married. He's very friendly, outgoing and would do anything for anyone. There's a lady who lives near us who is a similar age to us, widowed three or four years ago. Recently she's started to regularly ask my OH to do jobs for her, putting pictures up, odd jobs around the house, doing gardening, walking her dog, the list goes on. It feels a bit like she says jump and he says how high.... She texts him regularly and will also send other non related texts such as photos of places she's at or events that she's attending or just general how are you texts. She sent a text last weekend saying 'Happy friday' with a picture of a walk she was on. He has recently been admitted to hospital for a few days and she has been texting to see how he is, sending him get well wishes etc. I saw her briefly during this time and was suprised at her level of concern for him.

When he's doing these jobs they always end in a coffee and a chat and he can be there a while. She is fit and active for her age, and I suspect she can do some of these jobs herself. She sometimes offers to pay him but not very often and will sometimes give him a bottle of wine. One of our neighbours commented recently that it's a good job I'm not a jealous person as he spends such a lot of time at her house!

I know her reasonably well, we've got each others mobile number, but she never texts me about anything, its always my OH. He will sometimes ask me to join him when he goes round, sometimes I go, but not often. I don't feel particularly comfortable around her, I'm not sure why, it's unusual for me to be like this.

I have voiced my concerns that she is becoming more 'needy' for want of a better word, and I feel uncomfortable about the amount of time he spends around there, as this is increasing to 3 or 4 times a week. He has told me that he doesn't fancy he's happy to help her, she's a good friend and neighbour and that I'm being paranoid.

Sometimes we can have a rational conversation about this, other times he blows up at me and can get very angry at me and accuses me of not trusting him. I do trust him, but I find the texting and requests for help excessive.

I'm not sure what to think if I'm honest, my gut feeling is that there is something off, I think she likes to have him doing all this for her, she says things like I'm lucky to have a man who can. And if I'm honest I think my OH likes the attention from her.

I've asked if he'll perhaps back off a bit, but he says he's not doing anything wrong and he'll continue to help her. I feel a bit like he's not really considering my feelings, but then I think am I being unreasonable, he's only helping a neighbour?

Please could you give me your honest opinions and if I just need to accept its a friendship and I've nothing to worry about.

thank you if you got this far, sorry its so long.

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RetroTotty · 10/06/2024 13:06

you sound lovely OP, I would like a friend like you! keep posting, the good and the bad. You can see you're well liked here.

AmberExpert · 10/06/2024 13:53

RetroTotty · 10/06/2024 13:06

you sound lovely OP, I would like a friend like you! keep posting, the good and the bad. You can see you're well liked here.

Thank you, that's so kind of you to say x

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Ginkypig · 10/06/2024 18:09

As long as you are satisfied and feel this that’s all that matters.

as others have said on here you sound lovely im another who thinks you’d be a nice friend to have and as horrible as this is for you I am glad that you’re future won’t include him.

I know you probably won’t need this thread as much soon but if you do there will be people here wanting to hear your updates and offer advice or support when needed.

AmberExpert · 10/06/2024 19:52

Ginkypig · 10/06/2024 18:09

As long as you are satisfied and feel this that’s all that matters.

as others have said on here you sound lovely im another who thinks you’d be a nice friend to have and as horrible as this is for you I am glad that you’re future won’t include him.

I know you probably won’t need this thread as much soon but if you do there will be people here wanting to hear your updates and offer advice or support when needed.

Thanks so much, that's so kind of you to say.
He has pretty much separated me from my friends so making new connections is a priority for me, as well as connecting with old friends.

Thanks again fir getting back in touch and posting it means a lot x

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JackieQueen · 10/06/2024 20:51

Good luck op. Look forward to a happy future 💐

AmberExpert · 10/06/2024 21:26

JackieQueen · 10/06/2024 20:51

Good luck op. Look forward to a happy future 💐

Thank you, I hope so.

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Needapadlockonmyfridge · 10/06/2024 21:52

Here's to your new future. Brighter and better. Xx

AmberExpert · 11/06/2024 03:41

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 10/06/2024 21:52

Here's to your new future. Brighter and better. Xx

Thank you, I'm sure it will be in time.

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AmberExpert · 03/07/2024 21:46

I can't believe it's 2 months since I started this thread and my whole world has changed.
I'm still living with my friend, which has been great. She's been so supportive and has said I can stay as long as I like, for which I'm eternally greatful.

I've been applying for jobs and looking at houses, which has been exciting but a bit daunting. I'm taking things slowly and not rushing into anything.

Ex finally sent my money through, no call or text to say he'd sent it. I text to say I'd received it, but he never replied or acknowledged my text. I've not heard anything since. Which, sometimes I'm happy about and others I just really want to reach out to him. I've resisted this and deleted his number so I'm not tempted.

I've had good days and bad days, but the good days are definitely starting to outweigh the bad and I'm really trying to stay positive and know that I've done the right thing. Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at things through rose coloured glasses, so just trying to be realistic and remember just how awful it was.

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AliceOlive · 04/07/2024 05:09

It sounds like you are doing really well. Don’t ever forget how strong you have been through all of this. 💕

Duh · 04/07/2024 06:00

The emotional coldness of this man and his ability to just hit an “off switch” with people who don’t dance to his tune should reassure you that you have made the right decision. He is not worth a moment more of your time.

BlastedPimples · 04/07/2024 09:32

Wow. I am amazed at how cold your ex is.

He really is something weird.

Mind you, he's probably totally taken aback by your resolve.

You're amazing. Such dignity and you've found your power.

I hope you go from strength to strength. Keep building. Do not let him or anyone pull you down.

beenwhereyouare · 04/07/2024 11:00

I'm so glad to hear that you're still so resolved. I checked for updates on Sunday.

Copy and save this thread. Then reread any time you feel yourself weakening toward him or questioning yourself; you made a well-considered and rational decision. Be proud of the maturity you've displayed. I'm still rather awed by the speed and efficiency with which you ended things. I think you rock!

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 11:47

AliceOlive · 04/07/2024 05:09

It sounds like you are doing really well. Don’t ever forget how strong you have been through all of this. 💕

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your words. There are times when I’m so full of resolve and feel so strong and in control, then other times feel the polar opposite. I know it’s all to be expected the ups and downs and highs and lows, so I’m just trying to go with it. I’ve started meditating and doing yoga, and that’s really helping I think.

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AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 11:52

Duh · 04/07/2024 06:00

The emotional coldness of this man and his ability to just hit an “off switch” with people who don’t dance to his tune should reassure you that you have made the right decision. He is not worth a moment more of your time.

I know, I can barely believe it, but can see from the research I’ve been doing on narcissism that this is quite normal. He tried to ‘hoover’ me back with a couple of texts but I didn’t respond in the way he wanted or expected and didn’t dance to his tune so he’s cut me off. From the bit he told me about his last ex that’s just what he did to her too. Walked away and never looked back and they never had any contact, so I’m not surprised in some ways he’s been like this. I guess he thinks I’m not worth wasting any energy on. And that’s fine, it’s easier this way I think.

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AliceOlive · 04/07/2024 11:54

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 11:47

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your words. There are times when I’m so full of resolve and feel so strong and in control, then other times feel the polar opposite. I know it’s all to be expected the ups and downs and highs and lows, so I’m just trying to go with it. I’ve started meditating and doing yoga, and that’s really helping I think.

You are healing and you will fully heal to become even stronger.

The yoga and meditation must be hugely helpful. I need to get back to that so thank you for mentioning it.

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 11:56

BlastedPimples · 04/07/2024 09:32

Wow. I am amazed at how cold your ex is.

He really is something weird.

Mind you, he's probably totally taken aback by your resolve.

You're amazing. Such dignity and you've found your power.

I hope you go from strength to strength. Keep building. Do not let him or anyone pull you down.

Thank you for your kind words. He is so cold, but he could be like this when we were together, and it’s classic narcissistic behaviour. He’s actually pretty text book the more I’ve read up about it. I can just imagine him saying f#uck her I’m better off without her.

I’ve really tried to stay resolved and keep my dignity. I’ve found out he’s telling people I’ve left because I missed my friends and didn’t settle. I’ve told people that this is absolutely not the reason I’ve left. There are already rumours about him and the ex neighbour so I think people will put 2 and 2 together and realise the true reason I left.

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Ginkypig · 04/07/2024 11:58

I’m glad you came back.

it sounds like you are doing all the right things including not running into any new life too soon.

when you do feel wobbly just think of this thread and really look at how far you’ve come in that two months!

im not going to comment on his behaviour because he no longer deserves a space on this thread. his latest behaviour confirms nothing has changed and he is exactly what you and we have said.

This is your thread @AmberExpert and I’m so happy for you, I hope you enjoy your yoga and the new body you’ll get from it 😜 and get positivity from the meditation

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 12:00

beenwhereyouare · 04/07/2024 11:00

I'm so glad to hear that you're still so resolved. I checked for updates on Sunday.

Copy and save this thread. Then reread any time you feel yourself weakening toward him or questioning yourself; you made a well-considered and rational decision. Be proud of the maturity you've displayed. I'm still rather awed by the speed and efficiency with which you ended things. I think you rock!

Thank you so much, I do read the thread regularly and I’ve also started a journal and written things down that I remembered had happened and it has really helped me realise that I have done the right thing. It’s not always easy and I’m still having wobbles but I know I just need to stay strong and move on.

I still can’t believe it’s only been 2 months. I think it was easier because I was happy to cut and run if you like and didn’t want the stress of dividing the house. Because I only put a part share in made it easier too. I didn’t want anything to remind me of the house or what I hoped was going to be my future.

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AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 12:05

Ginkypig · 04/07/2024 11:58

I’m glad you came back.

it sounds like you are doing all the right things including not running into any new life too soon.

when you do feel wobbly just think of this thread and really look at how far you’ve come in that two months!

im not going to comment on his behaviour because he no longer deserves a space on this thread. his latest behaviour confirms nothing has changed and he is exactly what you and we have said.

This is your thread @AmberExpert and I’m so happy for you, I hope you enjoy your yoga and the new body you’ll get from it 😜 and get positivity from the meditation

I know I still can’t believe it’s only been 2 months. I wrote a list the other day of things I’ve done, it was strange to see it written down and I felt strangely proud.

It would be so easy to dive into a new life, but I really feel the need to tread carefully and slowly and not rush into anything. This isn’t like me usually, but I think I learnt my lesson with the ex, that all happened so quickly and was a whirlwind so I’m taking my time now,

I love meditation, not so sure about the yoga, but it’s early days and I’m trying not to expect too much of myself. I did some restorative yoga the other day which was amazing, just what I needed.

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AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 15:42

I’ve just seen this post about narcissistic abuse online, really resonated with me. These are ALL the things and more I was called/told during our relationship…..

The narcissist calls you crazy, insecure, jealous and sensitive to keep you from the reality of: I lied to you, I cheated on you, I abandoned you, I twisted every argument, I made you doubt yourself, I isolated you.

So true ❤️

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Ginkypig · 04/07/2024 15:47

So true and now you can see it you will never end up in a situation like that again because you won’t allow another person to wear down your boundaries and suck up the toxicity into yourself.

you will recognise the other person’s poison as belonging to them and it is completely separate from you.

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 20:06

Ginkypig · 04/07/2024 15:47

So true and now you can see it you will never end up in a situation like that again because you won’t allow another person to wear down your boundaries and suck up the toxicity into yourself.

you will recognise the other person’s poison as belonging to them and it is completely separate from you.

At this moment in time I can't ever imagine myself being in a relationship again. Probably because I'm still feeling fragile, but I don't ever want to go through this pain again.
I just keep imagining me in my own home, having it just how I want, knitting, reading, listening to music and being at peace.

Thanks so much for checking back in on me.

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BigAnne · 04/07/2024 20:43

AmberExpert · 04/07/2024 20:06

At this moment in time I can't ever imagine myself being in a relationship again. Probably because I'm still feeling fragile, but I don't ever want to go through this pain again.
I just keep imagining me in my own home, having it just how I want, knitting, reading, listening to music and being at peace.

Thanks so much for checking back in on me.

You've just described how I live minus the knitting 😂. It's bliss.

Ginkypig · 04/07/2024 20:53

Maybe or maybe not a romantic relationship but the lesson works for all relationships from friends to family to colleagues.

I just keep imagining me in my own home, having it just how I want, knitting, reading, listening to music and being at peace.
im so heartened to see this from you. With all my posts this was how I could envision you too (not the actual specifics but you know what I mean)

I think about you often so want to check in, my sincere hope is one day we will all be replying to a mundane future update about whatever life you’re living full of cheer for you because everything will be in the past!