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Terminally ill partner.

154 replies

Leebar · 24/04/2024 13:57

My partner is terminally ill. He has cancelled his divorce proceedings and arranged for his wife to receive part of his pension when he dies. I am living with him and look after him. He say he wants to stay with me and not his wife. I feel very hurt about the non divorce and pension agreement. Am I being fare?

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MrsKwazi · 24/04/2024 13:58

Does he have dependent children?

Leebar · 24/04/2024 14:00

No his children are grown up and have moved on.

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JustKeepSwimmingJust · 24/04/2024 14:01

It depends!

How long was the marriage? Is she supporting children of that marriage? Would she have got a fair chunk of the pension in a divorce? If he doesn’t do this, it’s the pension liable to just disappear and the pension company take the benefit?

How stressful would a divorce be right now?

Are you taking a financial hit due to you caring for him? Is he doing anything to support you?

oberst · 24/04/2024 14:01

How long have you been together?

AdoraBell · 24/04/2024 14:02

Would you need part of his pension?

valjane · 24/04/2024 14:02

How long have you been together?

AnnaMagnani · 24/04/2024 14:02

Has he made a will?

I can see he may not have time to get the divorce done, and his wife would likely have got some of his pension in the divorce.

If I were you I'd be wondering what was happening to the rest of the estate.

It's nice he is thinking of being fair to his ex but if he didn't try to be fair to you as well I think I'd be pretty miffed.

Chewbecca · 24/04/2024 14:03

How long have you been living with him and financially dependent on him?
Sorry for your situation.

Chewbecca · 24/04/2024 14:03

And are your finances joined together, i.e. do you own property together etc.?

Beamur · 24/04/2024 14:04

I think your partner is doing the decent thing here. If he was getting divorced, his wife would be entitled to some of his pension. He's doing the right thing by his wife before he dies.
I'm not sure why this hurts you? Maybe you can explain.

Leebar · 24/04/2024 14:05

He is leaving his estate to his two grown up children only

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MiniCooperLover · 24/04/2024 14:06

So he's happy for you to be his nurse? How long have you been together?

Flossflower · 24/04/2024 14:06

It really depends on a number of things:
Has he got dependent children?
How many years he was with his wife and how long has he been with you?
Your ages?
Is he leaving you anything?

I think there needs a to be a serious discussion. I think I would leave.

AdoraBell · 24/04/2024 14:07

Does his estate include your home, who owns it?

Beamur · 24/04/2024 14:08

Flossflower · 24/04/2024 14:06

It really depends on a number of things:
Has he got dependent children?
How many years he was with his wife and how long has he been with you?
Your ages?
Is he leaving you anything?

I think there needs a to be a serious discussion. I think I would leave.

This really. I think he's right to be fair to his wife but also needs to be fair to you. From your update it suggests not.

Leebar · 24/04/2024 14:10

The marriage lasted about 25 years ish! The non divorce is not a major issue with me just the pension arrangement does not seem fare. Unfortunately I am not his civil partner and therefore not entitled to anything financially which I understand it’s just the arrangement re pension I feel hurt about. She is finally stable also.

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Chewbecca · 24/04/2024 14:13

Are we talking about a final salary pension?
If so, be aware that in most schemes the trustees have discretion over who to pay to. They often will refuse to pay to new spouses / partners (even if nominated), especially younger ones.
Given the pension was likely built up over the course of the 25 year marriage, and potentially relied on by the wife for her own pension provision to some extent, it doesn't sound especially unreasonable. (unless there are some more factors you haven't yet mentioned?).

Leebar · 24/04/2024 14:15

It would have been helpful to receive part of his pension but I have legally no entitlement.

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MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 24/04/2024 14:16

How long have you been together?

MILTOBE · 24/04/2024 14:17

Can he explain why he's leaving it to his ex, particularly as the children don't live at home?

Rebusmyfire · 24/04/2024 14:20

Maybe it was due to his ex-wife's support (e.g. she stopped working for a time, worked part-time etc.t and this impacted on her pension contribution?)

Leebar · 24/04/2024 14:20

His wife is financially stable , if she wasn’t then it would be a different matter altogether. Perhaps I am overthinking things. I think I just have to let this go as my partner is quite ill therefore I don’t want to make life anymore difficult than it already is.

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Whatevershallidowithmylife · 24/04/2024 14:21

I am not surprised you are hurt- I would’ve too. It’s not about the money but it does seem very thoughtless.

Tiswa · 24/04/2024 14:21

I suspect he wants to give her the share of his pension built up over the marriage it would be hard to give to you and morally I can see why

Greywitch2 · 24/04/2024 14:21

I think you need an honest conversation with him about what he sees happening.

Are you supposed to provide free care up to the end of his life and then be turned out with nothing? Whose home is it that you live in? What will happen once he has gone? How long have you been together? Is he making any provision at all for you, or is he simply expecting you to do all the caring with no recompense at all.

It sounds like you are in his home, and presumably a reasonably newish partner if he's not yet got divorced, but I may be wrong. It doesn't sound like you are entitled to anything from him, but if that is the case I think he needs to think about how fair it is expecting the burden of all his care to fall upon you whilst leaving his pension to his wife and his estate to his children.

It would cost him a lot to have carers in.

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