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Am I being OTT? Husband and my best friend…

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Totalfuckingshitshow · 22/04/2024 10:35

I don’t know why I’m doing this thread. Probably because I can’t stomach telling real life people yet. I don’t know if I’m overreacting or underreacting or what. Please can you help me see through it?

A couple of weeks ago, my closest friend came to stay with us. She’s a long-term friend, very close, visits frequently and was my bridesmaid etc.

I got a babysitter and my friend, me and my H went out for a couple of drinks and to meet some other friends in the pub.

After coming home, I went to bed as it was late and my turn to get up with the baby in the morning. My H and friend stayed up listening to music and drinking some more. They went into another separate part of the house so the music didn’t disturb me or the baby. This isn’t unusual and more often than not, I’d be there too or my H wouldn’t.

In the morning, I picked up on a vibe. I just had a feeling. Never had it before. My friend was overly bright. She came back over very early. My husband very quiet. After my friend went home, I asked him outright if something had happened and he said no.

It niggled me for a couple of days and I suddenly recalled there’s external CCTV that covers that portion of the house, after we were burgled. So I viewed it. And I saw, clearly, that my friend approached my husband and put her arms around his neck and he wrapped his arms around her. They stayed like this, then it became dancing, then it became standing with their faces very close together talking, then they kissed albeit relatively brief and not a passionate one, and then they danced some more and then they separated. My H then immediately text me something inane, and probably guilty in hindsight.

The whole thing lasted around six minutes. It looked very intimate and intense. It makes me throw up viewing it.

Afterwards, they both went to bed separately. I’m fairly certain nothing else happened between them.

I have confronted the pair of them. My H claims he was crying about something and she comforted him, and he enjoyed the comfort. He’s very, very shame faced, upset and apologetic. My friend is trying to emotionally manipulate me into getting over it. Both attempted to rewrite it and minimise it until I informed them I’d seen it on CCTV.

I had expected DARVO from the pair of them due to the creepy surveillance aspect, but neither did. I find that telling.

My H is living in a separate part of the house. Complicated lives mean he cannot leave fully currently. I have ended my friendship. I have asked my H for a separation.

The real kicker here is my H, while very fond of my friend, is twitchy when I go out with her alone because she habitually seeks male attention and he feared I might do similar. She’s very beautiful and very clever and men fall at her feet. The hypocrisy of him lapping it up when she sought his attention is keeping me up at night.

I feel utterly sick and so betrayed. I have lost so much weight, I cannot eat and I cannot sleep. I feel I have lost two of the most important people to me.

But am I overreacting to end my marriage over this? They didn’t sleep together, the kiss was relatively brief, we have very small children, very entwined lives and a very long history.

And before anyone comes at me, I’m not holding her more responsible than him. She initiated the initial contact but he went with it. They both kissed each other. He’s married to me. Not her. Nor am I routinely into surveillance. It just suddenly occurred to me we had a camera and it was sheer dumb luck, or misfortune in their case, that they were visible.

Sorry this is long. I’ve not spoken to anyone about it.

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 10/09/2024 23:55

No words. Just so much respect for your courage.

ifionlyhadacat · 11/09/2024 08:30

@Totalfuckingshitshow I'm so sorry you've lost your mum. Its a devastating blow for you and your DF. Take your time sorting your life out, you don't owe us anything. As a goal for the future always remember she would want you to be happy in your life but that takes time

StopStartStop · 11/09/2024 09:52

I'm very sorry for your loss of you mum.

I lost my mum ten years ago (long, slow decline at 79, not unexpected) and I still feel she's around. I talk to her. She leaves white feathers for me...

My dad died recently. His feathers are pale grey. And sometimes, clever buggers, they leave grey/white feathers.

I know I sound barking mad. But it helps me. Keep talking to your mum. x

fizzandchips · 11/09/2024 22:27

You describe your mum as brave. It is evident that she lives on in you. You are braver than you think you are OP. I am so very sorry for your loss.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 11/09/2024 23:18

OP, your stupid husband has done you a favour by insulting your father, who sounds like a good man. Your parents brought you up to be brave and honest, deserving a far better man than your dickhead husband. In case you felt the slightest pity for him, he has shown you he’s not worth a moment of your time.

andfinallyhereweare · 13/09/2024 11:12

I’m so sorry for your loss @Totalfuckingshitshow my mum died suddenly too- two hours after we had had a normal phone conversation, one min there the next gone. The shock is awful, you think you’ll never surrive, but you keep on keeping on one way or another,just another poster here saying I see you and I’m sorry.

Londonismyjam · 27/11/2024 22:24

So sorry that you’ve had to go through this OP - I lost my mum when I needed her most too. I can still feel my mums hugs and it’s been years. Their strength lives on in us. It will get better eventually.

Snappers3 · 27/11/2024 23:23

I am thinking of you and sending you strength.

Horses7 · 28/11/2024 08:06

Thank you for update - sending a hug. You’ve had a rough year but you sound amazing. Look after yourself and best wishes for the future.

user1471886287 · 11/12/2025 09:13

Hi Op - how are you now?
my ex did this to me too with my close friend and they are now together. I can’t get my head around it. Does it get any easier?

WearyAuldWumman · 11/12/2025 09:18

user1471886287 · 11/12/2025 09:13

Hi Op - how are you now?
my ex did this to me too with my close friend and they are now together. I can’t get my head around it. Does it get any easier?

I can't speak for myself, @user1471886287 , but this happened to a relative of mine - her husband and her best friend.

The relative is now - to use a cliché - living her best life. Some years down the line, she has had a change of career and a lovely fiancé.

Her ex and ex best friend are stuck with one another.

Allelbowsandtoes · 11/12/2025 10:00

Totalfuckingshitshow · 22/04/2024 10:57

Whatever I want. Therapy, stopping drinking, total honesty, starting over…

I don’t want to put limitations on someone’s life though. That feels wrong. I want the two closest people to me to have controlled themselves.

In our early days there was some cheating on his part, when we were very young and hadn’t been together very long, but I never thought it would happen again after marriage and babies and not with my friend. I only found out about the early stuff years later.

Is it cheating? Do you guys see it as cheating? It feels like cheating.

How long would he do all these things for, though? He's feeling guilty now and terrified of losing you, but if you stay together and start tentatively working through things, how long will it be until the guilt wears off and he starts to resent you for expecting therapy, or sobriety, or whatever else?

Downtoncrabbey · 11/12/2025 10:25

My concern is have they been having an affair for ages. You also say he cheated early on, so this isn’t his first offence - is he a serial cheat and is she the only one. I would check his phone/laptop and socials, and for things like onlyfans.

Also, you say you’ve been trying to get him to do couples counselling for ages, and he let you go to bed to do the early morning chores, and stayed up with YOUR best friend. Plus the gaslighting and manipulative behaviour since you found out. Is he a good husband overall? Why did you want counselling?

Snappers3 · 11/12/2025 10:45

I really hope you have survived this awful hand that was dealt you last year.
You must still be trying to get to grips with your wonderful mums sudden passing.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 11/12/2025 10:53

She is not your best friend. I suspect this is not the only time this, or similar, has happened.

Freeme31 · 11/12/2025 14:20

I hope 2025 improved as the year went on, you really were dealt an awful year 2024 - i hope you survived mentally and have come out stronger regardless of the outcome with your husband. From your last post i think you have fallen out of love as the blinkers were raised from your eyes.

scoobysnaxx · 29/12/2025 10:40

How are you OP? Something triggered this thread to come up again and I just re-read your posts. i really hope you and your children are doing well xxx

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