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Husband depressed after birth of our second child ten weeks ago, says I make him want to kill himself

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AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:38

My husband is depressed, regrets our baby and told me that I make him want to kill himself. I don't know what to do.

First time posting. Not sure what I'm looking for exactly, perhaps some outsider perspective. My husband (41) and I (38) had our second baby 10 weeks ago. We also have a six year old daughter. Conceiving our second was fraught; I really wanted another baby, he was hot and cold. Two miscarriages, two years of trying etc...

Second baby is significantly harder than our first - lots of crying, up 1000 times at night etc - and my husband is not coping. He has checked out and I feel like I am solo parenting our baby. He says he is depressed (post partum depression perhaps?) and is having a major existential crisis. He is so unhappy with our -admittedly, charmed - life and feels like I've been calling the shots over our ten year relationship.

He's recently gotten really into DJing and one of his main complaints is that he is now a servant to our family and has no time for himself. I've been doing all I can to ensure he has free time - I took both kids out of the house when the baby was just a couple of weeks old to give him space when I was still sore and recovering and just wanted to be on the couch. He has taken several trips away to do various things related to his music, I have looked after the kids without complaint, I ask about how he's feeling, listen to him complain (about me and our life), take on additional life admin tasks to take them off his plate... All things he has expressed in the past make him feel loved and cared for.

Two nights ago when I got home after four days away (with both kids to give him space and free time) he says that the key to him feeling better is that he needs to better compartmentalise all his responsibilities and ensure he has enough time for all of them - i.e., more time. For him to have more free time, I need to exchange mine and I feel I have nomore.to give. I am feeling so much resentment towards him. I have been out of the house only twice by myself; I barely have had enough alone time to blow dry my hair over the past two and a half months. I have never asked for help ( I did once and it sent him on a spiral); not even in the middle of the night when I am so exhausted I feel I am about to crack. Never once have i handed him the baby and bottle and begged for an extra hour of sleep. The few times I have told him how hard it is he has essentially told me that ive gotten what I wanted (a baby) and to suck it up. He takes the baby every now and then for like ten minutes, baby cries, husband is like "urgh, no thank you! This baby is hard work!", never once stopping to reflect on what it's like for me during the other 23h and 50 minutes of the day.

He has said once before that he is becoming suicidal. Last night he raised it again and said .. this is a quote " you are making me want to kill myself". I want to say it's the depression talking and I am trying to be compassionate but I am also furious and trying hard not to be. The worst part is that he's not the first person to say that to me, my mum said something similar when I was like 10 (she had significant trauma that was never dealt with I now know and is generally not ok). This morning he hugged me and said he felt like there was a weight of, I hugged him back and we cried but I am left feeling like total shit - a truly horrible person that makes people want to kill themselves.

I am bouncing from rage to guilt to deep shame and I don't know what to do.

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LizardOfOz · 18/04/2024 20:42

Wow
None of this is your fault. To be extremely generous to your husband, maybe he's depressed. In which case he urgently needs to see a doctor and get some medication

To be realistic it sounds like he's being a dick and how fucking dare he treat you like that. He wants to be a fucking DJ? He needs to grow the fuck up

To be quite honest you're better off without him and I don't say that lightly considering you have a small child and a newborn baby

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 18/04/2024 20:43

Does he suffer with depression?

Pigeonqueen · 18/04/2024 20:43

I suggest you call his bluff and tell him he clearly doesn’t want to be part of the family so he can fuck off. Seriously. He’s a useless piece of shit. My ex dh was exactly like this. I left when dd was 6 months old - she’s now 21.

DowntonCrabby · 18/04/2024 20:43

With such a new baby, an older DC and therefore a fuckton of stuff to be dealing with is honestly ask him to move out temporarily.

You are clearly the only mentally sound parent, you need to concentrate on those so vulnerable they only have you for their needs.

If he’s genuinely struggling so badly he needs to be told to seek the help he need awhile you concentrate on your joint DC. Again, if he’s genuinely struggling he’ll want to get the help he needs to get well and become the partner/father he should be.

frozendaisy · 18/04/2024 20:44

Does he know your mum said that to you?

Doyoumind · 18/04/2024 20:44

Do you believe he's suicidal, or is he using the threat to control the situation?

My uncharitable side feels he should grow the fuck up but I am influenced by having been in a relationship with someone abusive, controlling and selfish.

chocmatcha · 18/04/2024 20:45

Tell him to leave

LizardOfOz · 18/04/2024 20:46

Once you ask him to leave (and he goes) you'll feel so much better because

  1. you won't have to tiptoe around his "feelings"
  2. you won't feel as resentful because there won't be another adult around who's supposed to be helping
  3. you can relax with the kids and not have to worry about keeping them quiet so as not to disturb him
  4. you'll actually have less to do because I seriously doubt he's pulling his weight/doing anything at all around the house
LouJ36 · 18/04/2024 20:47

LizardOfOz · 18/04/2024 20:46

Once you ask him to leave (and he goes) you'll feel so much better because

  1. you won't have to tiptoe around his "feelings"
  2. you won't feel as resentful because there won't be another adult around who's supposed to be helping
  3. you can relax with the kids and not have to worry about keeping them quiet so as not to disturb him
  4. you'll actually have less to do because I seriously doubt he's pulling his weight/doing anything at all around the house

Everything here is so true

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/04/2024 20:47

The worst part is that he's not the first person to say that to me, my mum said something similar when I was like 10 (she had significant trauma that was never dealt with I now know and is generally not ok). This morning he hugged me and said he felt like there was a weight of, I hugged him back and we cried but I am left feeling like total shit - a truly horrible person that makes people want to kill themselves.

No, you're not. But you seem to be in a really negative, manipulative, 'recreating your childhood' relationship.

I'm so sorry love. Normally I'd suggest sitting down and working out how to get everyone time 'off'. But he doesn't want a good, healthy, equal relationship so you will have to resign yourself to what you have, a relationship that WILL end and how it does is only partly up to you.

PickAChew · 18/04/2024 20:48

So you get no time to adjust and recover from birth and then he piles in the manipulative emotional abuse - he's disengaged and it's all your fault, so he says? Bugger that. He needs to grow up or bugger off at least until he's well again and probably forever.

FreebieWallopFridge · 18/04/2024 20:48

He sounds like a twat, rather than depressed tbh.

BirthdayRainbow · 18/04/2024 20:48

He is totally bullshitting you. I'm so sorry.

It's time to say to him that as he's so unhappy it is better he leaves as it's not safe for him to be there if you being around him makes him want to kill himself.

beAsensible1 · 18/04/2024 20:48

He needs help and so do you. Can you ask him to leave to get his head right and maybe get a friend or family to stay with your for a bit of support.

you will be getting burnt out so soon after birth with two little ones and now DH using you as an emotional punching bag.

You are doing everything you can.

gamerchick · 18/04/2024 20:49

Pigeonqueen · 18/04/2024 20:43

I suggest you call his bluff and tell him he clearly doesn’t want to be part of the family so he can fuck off. Seriously. He’s a useless piece of shit. My ex dh was exactly like this. I left when dd was 6 months old - she’s now 21.

I'm pretty sure that's his plan.

Jesus OP, read him the riot act before you crack up. You probably would do better on your own without the eggshell shit you're doing atm.

Screamingabdabz · 18/04/2024 20:53

Depressed or not, he sounds insufferable. Totally focussed on his own needs and not a thought in his head for your well-being or his children. I would be very angry in your position op. I’d be telling him to shape up or ship the fuck out.

PussInBin20 · 18/04/2024 20:53

Well he obviously did not want another child and now he’s really letting you know how much. To me it sounds like he wants you to end it so that he doesn’t have to (as he’s a coward and most likely doesn’t want to look the bad guy).

I would grant him this wish if I were you as he’s resenting you now but you will end up resenting him for sure.

Welliwould · 18/04/2024 20:56

I'd tell him he's either all in and needs to sort himself out, ie go to the doctors, get therapy or whatever, or he's all out and needs to leave. Sounds like you are basically single parenting anyway and pandering to his feeling is making it much worse.
A relationship is supposed to be equal, and you don't have the bandwidth right now to take on his burdens when you have 2 little people relying on you. He's not a little person and needs to sort himself out.

AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:56

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 18/04/2024 20:43

Does he suffer with depression?

He has definitely had low mood before and he has suffered from anxiety. He was diagnosed with adjustment disorder after our first was born. So yeah, there's history of mental health challenges there but I'd say he generally has big, existential reactions to regular life events.

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urrrgh46 · 18/04/2024 20:57

Time for an ultimatum imo! Either he seeks IMMEDIATE help and treatment for his "depression" or he leaves. Being faced with that may make him come to his senses if he is having a bit of "midlife crisis" and face reality - he's got a family and he should be bloody grateful OR he is actually not coping and needs help. Either way stop pandering to him and do what YOU need to do to make life as easy as possible for yourself! I'm angry on your behalf!

ItsADoggieDogWorld · 18/04/2024 20:57

I'd personally be suspicious about the DJing and his trips away. Having been in the entertainment business for a long time I've seen what people get up to when they have spouses and children at home. It's easy to get caught up in the adoration of punters who think what you do is glamorous and exciting.
He's trying very hard to make you look the bad guy. I'd be asking myself why.

AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:58

DowntonCrabby · 18/04/2024 20:43

With such a new baby, an older DC and therefore a fuckton of stuff to be dealing with is honestly ask him to move out temporarily.

You are clearly the only mentally sound parent, you need to concentrate on those so vulnerable they only have you for their needs.

If he’s genuinely struggling so badly he needs to be told to seek the help he need awhile you concentrate on your joint DC. Again, if he’s genuinely struggling he’ll want to get the help he needs to get well and become the partner/father he should be.

He's gone to our holiday home with our eldest for the spring break, I'm at home with the baby. It was his idea to have some space but I think it's good for me too

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Jamiedodgers · 18/04/2024 20:58

He is depressed with suicidal thoughts. He needs medical intervention, he needs professional help.

I was in a similar situation two years ago, husband had a breakdown just after the baby was born, when I needed help the most…. He sought help and was on antidepressants and therapy for a while which really helped. Our relationship however took a lot longer to recover and I’m not sure if it will ever be the same again. I’m still resentful that he made it all about himself when I really needed the help. But I decided to stay and I’m pleased I did, my husband sought help and I could see improvements so I think that was the key for us, is that he acknowledged the problem and wanted to find a solution for it.

They say depression is a very selfish disease and it’s very true, depressed people can be dicks. It’s not you, it’s definitely him

He needs to seek professional help rather than rely on you as an emotional crutch and take everything out on you. You have you and the two kids to consider, don’t let him drag you down.

Summerhillsquare · 18/04/2024 21:01

"adjustment disorder"? FFS. He's not ill, hes lazy and selfish and should have had a vasectomy instead of taking it out on you.

CC222 · 18/04/2024 21:02

It sounds like he is emotionally manipulating and abusing you.
If he genuinely is struggling with depression, he needs to take responsibility and address this with his GP rather than take it all out on you and punish you for it.
You sound like a fantastic mother and partner, a far better partner than he deserves with his behaviour towards you.
Doesn't he realise that he is just preparing you for life as a single parent, by literally leaving it all to you?
Take some time to think about what you actually want. If he is serious about being a part of your family, he needs to address his issues with health professionals and get his health and life back on track, and then learn to be more involved and give you the breaks you need also.
He actually sounds like a very emotionally immature selfish prick! So maybe be prepared to cut him out of the equation if he isn't willing to pull his socks up and fulfil his duties as a dad and partner...