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Husband depressed after birth of our second child ten weeks ago, says I make him want to kill himself

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AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:38

My husband is depressed, regrets our baby and told me that I make him want to kill himself. I don't know what to do.

First time posting. Not sure what I'm looking for exactly, perhaps some outsider perspective. My husband (41) and I (38) had our second baby 10 weeks ago. We also have a six year old daughter. Conceiving our second was fraught; I really wanted another baby, he was hot and cold. Two miscarriages, two years of trying etc...

Second baby is significantly harder than our first - lots of crying, up 1000 times at night etc - and my husband is not coping. He has checked out and I feel like I am solo parenting our baby. He says he is depressed (post partum depression perhaps?) and is having a major existential crisis. He is so unhappy with our -admittedly, charmed - life and feels like I've been calling the shots over our ten year relationship.

He's recently gotten really into DJing and one of his main complaints is that he is now a servant to our family and has no time for himself. I've been doing all I can to ensure he has free time - I took both kids out of the house when the baby was just a couple of weeks old to give him space when I was still sore and recovering and just wanted to be on the couch. He has taken several trips away to do various things related to his music, I have looked after the kids without complaint, I ask about how he's feeling, listen to him complain (about me and our life), take on additional life admin tasks to take them off his plate... All things he has expressed in the past make him feel loved and cared for.

Two nights ago when I got home after four days away (with both kids to give him space and free time) he says that the key to him feeling better is that he needs to better compartmentalise all his responsibilities and ensure he has enough time for all of them - i.e., more time. For him to have more free time, I need to exchange mine and I feel I have nomore.to give. I am feeling so much resentment towards him. I have been out of the house only twice by myself; I barely have had enough alone time to blow dry my hair over the past two and a half months. I have never asked for help ( I did once and it sent him on a spiral); not even in the middle of the night when I am so exhausted I feel I am about to crack. Never once have i handed him the baby and bottle and begged for an extra hour of sleep. The few times I have told him how hard it is he has essentially told me that ive gotten what I wanted (a baby) and to suck it up. He takes the baby every now and then for like ten minutes, baby cries, husband is like "urgh, no thank you! This baby is hard work!", never once stopping to reflect on what it's like for me during the other 23h and 50 minutes of the day.

He has said once before that he is becoming suicidal. Last night he raised it again and said .. this is a quote " you are making me want to kill myself". I want to say it's the depression talking and I am trying to be compassionate but I am also furious and trying hard not to be. The worst part is that he's not the first person to say that to me, my mum said something similar when I was like 10 (she had significant trauma that was never dealt with I now know and is generally not ok). This morning he hugged me and said he felt like there was a weight of, I hugged him back and we cried but I am left feeling like total shit - a truly horrible person that makes people want to kill themselves.

I am bouncing from rage to guilt to deep shame and I don't know what to do.

OP posts:
theworldie · 18/04/2024 21:02

Aw poor diddums.

So he’s suicidal but gets plenty of time to go on jollies and fulfill his DJing ambitions 🙄whilst you do everything?

He’s a nasty, manipulative, selfish twat - I could not be doing with such a man-child.

You may as well throw him out op - what does he actually bring to your life other than making you feel shit? Shame on him.

SleepQuest33 · 18/04/2024 21:03

He’s really struggling! He’s in a dark place and needs professional help and perhaps medication.

how was your marriage before the baby? Was he a good husband and father or selfish? If it was a happy home it’s worth fighting for. The early years are very difficult (sounds like your first child was more placid?)

OhYoko · 18/04/2024 21:04

Fucking yikes.

None of this is on you. Your husband is a grown up, a father of two (though his own choice, don't let him convince you he was some unwilling passenger in all of this) and needs to grow the fuck up.

I'd be considering leaving this pathetic human being tbh.

Soontobe60 · 18/04/2024 21:05

AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 20:56

He has definitely had low mood before and he has suffered from anxiety. He was diagnosed with adjustment disorder after our first was born. So yeah, there's history of mental health challenges there but I'd say he generally has big, existential reactions to regular life events.

Adjusting to life with a newborn isn’t a ‘disorder’. It’s a fact of life😬
Hes gaslighting you and needs to move back in with mummy.

AmberMoose · 18/04/2024 21:05

PussInBin20 · 18/04/2024 20:53

Well he obviously did not want another child and now he’s really letting you know how much. To me it sounds like he wants you to end it so that he doesn’t have to (as he’s a coward and most likely doesn’t want to look the bad guy).

I would grant him this wish if I were you as he’s resenting you now but you will end up resenting him for sure.

I think you're right about the not wanting another child. I begged him repeatedly to just admit to it so I could draw a line under it and get on with my life. Instead it was two years of "ok let's try", no I don't want to, ok I will when x,y,x happens... I was working with a psychologist to try help me come to terms with the fact that I might never have another baby. I think I always suspected that it would be used against me at some point. I love my baby though and don't regret it for a second, even if it's blowing up my relationship

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DisappearingGirl · 18/04/2024 21:06

Ugh. This makes me so angry on your behalf.

He has a 6 year old and a ten week old baby. No-one gets any sleep or any time to themselves at that stage. What on earth is he playing at taking up DJing when he has a newborn to co-parent. He should be taking some of the load and letting you sleep.

Daz57 · 18/04/2024 21:07

I do think that men can suffer from a type of post natal depression. My grandson’s daddy went through similar but in time became a great father. He told me a few times that he would never have another child and never has.
You both need help through this. Could your health visitor help at all? Wishing you luck x

Myopicglass · 18/04/2024 21:08

Dj’ing, depression and weekends away. Picking fights? Blowing hit and cold. Wanting free time and thinking the grass is greener.

He behaviour suggests he may have someone else he has his eye on.

theworldie · 18/04/2024 21:09

He’s really struggling! He’s in a dark place and needs professional help and perhaps medication.

Oh ffs - my eyes are rolling so far back into my head!

He is not struggling - he just doesn’t want to do any of the hard work or parenting and is instead threatening the op with suicide when she asks him to step up and do his bit. They are HIS children too.

People who are suicidal do not go on trips away to DJ and fulfill their hobbies. Seems like his “depression” pops up whenever it is a convenient excuse for him to live his life how HE wants to - that of a single man.

OhYoko · 18/04/2024 21:09

Just read your update. Adjustment disorder my arse. Him and everyone else who's ever had a baby, you included OP, I'd wager. What a self-centred knob.

Byebyefattum · 18/04/2024 21:10

I don’t what to say apart from you must be doing a Herculean job all by yourself. Having had kids ( with a supportive partner) I cannot imagine having to do it on my own, and you sound like you are doing a brilliant job. I’m so sorry that he said this to you- this is NOT your fault. If he’s depressed that’s one thing. He needs to go to a DR and seek help. Not blame you. You’ve created, carried and birthed a baby and are now keeping two little kids alive and healthy- you’re amazing and please don’t ever let anyone tell you otherwise. I read your mum said something similar when you were small. You need to let that go. She was wrong. Nothing any small child ( or adult I would reason but esp a child) could ever make anyone feel that way. And if you did then it is your job as an adult to go and seek help, NOT lay that at the door of a child. So again I am really sorry to hear that happened to you- but that is NOT your fault.
keep talking and talk to your friends and family. You get support where you can but you are not responsible for your husband. He should be supporting you now. You’ve been through a really physical and tiring experience and are still. I promise this too shall pass and your beautiful girls will know just how much you loved / love them xx

TooFatTooOldTooUgly · 18/04/2024 21:11

He sounds like an utter self centred dick.

Your life would be so much better without him in it.

Onand · 18/04/2024 21:11

Wow there’s a lot of ice queens on here dismissive of male depression. No wonder male suicide rates are so high.

Goodluckanddontfitup · 18/04/2024 21:13

Maybe he is depressed, but that is absolute not your fault, and not within your gift to fix. If he feels he is genuinely depressed he needs to seek medical help for that, not put it all on you. You cannot carry on like this, not only will you end up emotionally drained, but this is going to make you physically ill having to look after your 2 young children just 10 weeks after giving birth, as well as dealing with all this from him. As PP’s have said, you should separate. Having him around is only adding to your burden, cutting him out gives you one less thing to have on your shoulders. If he is depressed you can support from afar if he seeks proper medical help, and come back together as a family when he is mentally ready to be a proper partner and Dad.

Springtoit · 18/04/2024 21:13

You really need to tell him to grow up and take onboard, there is no 'I' in 'TEAM' and that is what marriage and parenthood is all about: hard graft, commitment and team work.

He sounds immature, selfish and needy.

If it were me, I would be telling him to pack his bags and leave you to it as who needs a third child to care for?

theworldie · 18/04/2024 21:13

Onand · 18/04/2024 21:11

Wow there’s a lot of ice queens on here dismissive of male depression. No wonder male suicide rates are so high.

Nope. Just women who know the signs of manipulative arseholes when they hear it.

Yep - otherwise known as The Script!

Crazycrazylady · 18/04/2024 21:13

Honestly op.
You have t the patience of a saint with this man child .
You've done absolutely nothing wrong here .

dimllaishebiaith · 18/04/2024 21:15

Onand · 18/04/2024 21:11

Wow there’s a lot of ice queens on here dismissive of male depression. No wonder male suicide rates are so high.

Women aren't responsible for mens mental health

Male suicide is not a result of female "ice queens"

And given more women try to commit suicide than men, how about a bit of consideration for the OPs mental health which she admits in her first post has been affected by this behaviour due to a traumatic past

Or was it just easier to lash out at the "ice queens" instead

ImOddsAndEnds · 18/04/2024 21:16

What a set of absolute twats on this thread, let's hope no males you care about ever get severely depressed. Of course you can be very depressed and try to do things to 'time out' so to speak and essentially distract yourself from your own mind for a while (I'm referring to the DJing thing).

He sounds like he needs real professional help and support. I feel for you too, you need the actual physical support. What a difficult situation to be in. He really needs to speak with his GP.

TokyoSushi · 18/04/2024 21:16

Pigeonqueen · 18/04/2024 20:43

I suggest you call his bluff and tell him he clearly doesn’t want to be part of the family so he can fuck off. Seriously. He’s a useless piece of shit. My ex dh was exactly like this. I left when dd was 6 months old - she’s now 21.

I'm afraid I agree...

BirthdayRainbow · 18/04/2024 21:19

If he is genuinely depressed he'd be seeing the GP. He'd want to do the best for his family by looking after himself.

Doteycat · 18/04/2024 21:19

Tell him fuck off.
Useless manipulative piece of shit.
Grow up or fuck off.

Jk987 · 18/04/2024 21:20

He had 4 whole days and nights to himself while you took the kids away and he still wasn't remotely better? He should have taken the kids straight away and let you rest.

Are you close with his family, what do they think?

Doteycat · 18/04/2024 21:23

ImOddsAndEnds · 18/04/2024 21:16

What a set of absolute twats on this thread, let's hope no males you care about ever get severely depressed. Of course you can be very depressed and try to do things to 'time out' so to speak and essentially distract yourself from your own mind for a while (I'm referring to the DJing thing).

He sounds like he needs real professional help and support. I feel for you too, you need the actual physical support. What a difficult situation to be in. He really needs to speak with his GP.

You are so wrong im embarrassed for you.