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H can’t stop arguing with me about my dc. Time to go?

179 replies

captaincookiecrisp · 05/04/2024 15:28

I’ve been with my ‘d’H for 8 years. Married for 5 of those. I had a 3yo child already when we met (no dad involved) and in hindsight we moved too fast but I was pretty young and lonely and I didn’t know better. Well I was probably a bit selfish. he met dc within a few months, moved in within a year and we got engaged after that. He didn’t have any experience with little kids at all and I think he did do his best but there were incidents of him being too strict with dc from as early as year 1, I remember him saying to me he didn’t know if he could be with someone if he wasn’t also allowed to parent their kid. (This was well before we were married.) I remember nasty arguments he would have with me in front of dc from the first or second year and I’d be really upset as I loved him and was scared to be alone. I’m sad to say I put myself first. It’s been a constant theme, what will happen is dc will do something (either an accident like falling off a chair and he will tell her off for messing, or she might be grumpy and he will punish her too harshly or say something harsh) and I will step in if dc is upset, to defend. Then he will get extremely angry with me and shout at me, storm off, disappear for the rest of the day, Etc all in front of dc. He says I don’t co parent with him and I don’t ‘listen’ but when I try to explain it’s my instinct to protect dc he just won’t hear it. Also in terms of co parenting I do all homework, shower, bedtime story, taking her out, organising her life, buying her stuff…. He doesn’t bother to do that. He just wants to ‘co parent’ via discipline.

dc is a good kid, shy and kind, no behaviour issues.

It’s happened a few times in the past month - he nearly left our holiday recently because of it - and last night when she was grumpy/tired after we ate out and we’re going to get some cake he was like ‘you don’t deserve cake’ and said she was ‘bad’ which made her cry. I hugged her and asked him not to say that as it wasnt fair. He then called us both ‘ridiculous’ and stormed off. She asked me if it was her fault. She kept saying ‘he’s in a mood’ when we got home. He took me in the next room to shout at me when she was watching tv then told me he wants a divorce. That it’s my fault and that he acts the way he does because I make him. He said he was going to take all our joint money as ‘he made most of it’ (I work ft but much lower paid) and that he won’t leave so we will have to. I asked him if he could stop doing this around dc and he said he couldn’t. He said it’s a ‘personality clash’.

Then after I got incredibly upset, hours later, he said he ‘can’t’ do that to dc so he will stay for her and ‘pretend he’s died’ as his opinions clearly don’t matter.

why is it like this? Ironically he has been pushing me to have more dc for ages but when he acts like this around mine I just shut down. He is volatile and can’t help moods and sulks and he doesn’t care how it harms dc.

what do I do? Is it my fault? I literally have no idea anymore. I hate to see dc upset and harshly/unfairly treated. I can’t help protecting them. I can’t just bite my tongue and talk about it later when it’s like that. I want dc to know someone has their back.

OP posts:
Shiningout · 05/04/2024 15:31

Erm yes, it's time to go.

yeesh · 05/04/2024 15:35

Leave. It’s the only way to protect your daughter

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 05/04/2024 15:37

He is volatile and can’t help moods and sulks and he doesn’t care how it harms dc.
The fact that he is volatile and can't help getting in moods would be enough reason to leave him even if you didn’t have children.

what do I do? Is it my fault?

Well it’s your fault that you moved this man into your dc's lives so quickly and let him stay even though there were pretty immediate signs that he was not suitable to be living with them, yes. But you have acknowledged that. You can't turn back time, but you can do the right thing now, and end the relationship. Why would you syay with a man who treats your children badly? Having further children with him would be sheer insanity.

IncognitoMam · 05/04/2024 15:37

Have you confided in friends or family? I'm sure they'd be appalled.

Get legal advice asap. And get rid!

WoodBurningStov · 05/04/2024 15:37

Yes, it's tile to leave

captaincookiecrisp · 05/04/2024 15:38

He’s always said it’s because of me that he acts that way. I ‘dont listen’ and I don’t ‘back him up’. which I actually do a lot but not when he’s being too harsh.‘it’s not how I want to raise her. His parents were way too strict and punitive as he admits.
so I guess I feel responsible for acting in a way that is instinctual to me and like I’ve ruined my marriage or something.

OP posts:
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 05/04/2024 15:43

He is a weed-smoking argumentative bully who is horrible to your child, and you think it's your fault for ruining the marriage?! Wake up, OP. Why do you think should you listen to and back up a man who is like this?

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 05/04/2024 15:44

Come on @captaincookiecrisp he’s a horrible bully - there’s not much of a marriage to ruin and that’s not your fault. He’s making your daughter unhappy, and spoiling her precious childhood - stand up to him by leaving.

candycane222 · 05/04/2024 15:44

It's him who has ruined your marriage - not that there was a good marriage there to ruin. Now you are older and wiser, you can see that, so act accordingly and get him out of your and dd's lives.

But make sure you get legal advice on your financial situation (before agreeing to anything!). He doesn't get to solely decide what he gives you, the law has a say in that too.

gamerchick · 05/04/2024 15:46

Well for starters, since it's already on his mind you transfer half the joint bank account to your own.

Then you say that yes, you would like a divorce. Your child is going to grow up and anxious wreck if you stay with this specimen.

snakewillow · 05/04/2024 15:47

Nothing less attractive than a grown man having a tantrum. I got told by my ex that I never had his back and we argued about my DC. I told him if he ever said anything I agreed with I would. Don't beat yourself up, people make mistakes and most of us put up with things longer than we should. Just start taking actions to remove him from your life now.

Motnight · 05/04/2024 15:47

Leave. My dh's mother allowed a bully into their lives when he was a child and the fallout, sadness and anger about continues to this day.

BoohooWoohoo · 05/04/2024 15:50

You should have left years ago but leaving now is better than not leaving.

Do not have a child with him. He’s clearly the type who will not be able to cope with your dd and his child getting into squabbles and all siblings squabble.

Overtheatlantic · 05/04/2024 15:53

Please leave OP. There is nothing worse to a child than being forced to live with an adult who doesn’t like them. She will be feeling unsafe and anxious.

Lavenderandbrown · 05/04/2024 15:53

young you may have been imprudent rushing into this marriage. Older you recognizes DC is at risk…of blame feeling guilty being minimized and possibly of his volatility. Young him kept his mask on hiding his true feelings about parenting or maybe older him just hasn’t evolved into a better DD. Good job holding off on more children just tying yourself to him. Don’t listen to his bullshit about the bank account and the house and moving blah blah. He’s hardly impartial and he’s using scare tactics to bully you to leave then to stay. Op I advise you to leave him. IMO he will not change. DC will be fine with you alone and will recognize now or in the future just how very much you prioritized her wellbeing safety and enabled her childhood to remain a childhood The beauty of it she’s YOUR child and you get to take her with you 100%. Many women still have to leave their DC in DH care knowing he’s inadequate parent at best. Let the lawyers figure out the legal. I’m USA but here marital debt is marital debt and marital assets are marital assets. Doesn’t matter who contributed what My shit exDH had me believing I was going straight to the breadline and now I outright own the marital home…from sahm to home owner. It will happen for you and dc too

SamW98 · 05/04/2024 15:56

Please protect your DC from being further bullied by this horrible abusive man by getting out NOW.

You made a mistake marrying this creep and you need to salvage the rest of your and your DC’s lives by leaving him in the past.

TheTeaCosyofDoom · 05/04/2024 15:58

Your H is a rotten bully who is obviously making the life of you and DC an utter misery. The two of you must be walking on eggshells permanently. If you do not remove him from your life, the day will dawn when DC will be unable to forgive you for allowing him to do this. Children can be resilient, but they also have very long memories. Please get your ducks in a row and quietly go about the business of putting an end to the marriage.

pointythings · 05/04/2024 15:59

captaincookiecrisp · 05/04/2024 15:38

He’s always said it’s because of me that he acts that way. I ‘dont listen’ and I don’t ‘back him up’. which I actually do a lot but not when he’s being too harsh.‘it’s not how I want to raise her. His parents were way too strict and punitive as he admits.
so I guess I feel responsible for acting in a way that is instinctual to me and like I’ve ruined my marriage or something.

What he means is 'you don't let me bully you and your child around, and I want to be Billy Big Balls because deep down I'm small and inadequate '.

Leave this man.

debbs77 · 05/04/2024 16:05

Do your daughter the biggest favour you can ever do. Get rid of him. Do you want her growing up thinking this is ok? Getting in to similar relationships as an adult?

When someone tells you who they are.....listen

GingerIsBest · 05/04/2024 16:06

Oh for pity's sake. He's just a bully. He doesn't want to do any of the co-parenting really - he just wants a child who will be quiet and do what he says. It's not like he's building a good relationship with her.

Get out now. You are not helping your dd. She knows how mean he is. She knows how cruel he is. She's already starting to blame herself.

Speak to a solicitor and get some advice regarding finances etc. And get out. Please.

Dery · 05/04/2024 16:06

“candycane222 · Today 15:44
It's him who has ruined your marriage - not that there was a good marriage there to ruin. Now you are older and wiser, you can see that, so act accordingly and get him out of your and dd's lives.

But make sure you get legal advice on your financial situation (before agreeing to anything!). He doesn't get to solely decide what he gives you, the law has a say in that too.”

This, OP. And take half your funds out of the joint bank account, in case he decides to empty it.

You can’t put back time. There are things I would do very differently as a parent if i could put back time but my DCs are young adults and only at home part time. Your DCs are still young and every day is your chance to put this right.

BigFatLiar · 05/04/2024 16:13

Call it a day.

I think people who can make this blended sort of relationship work are very fortunate. It's simply safer to put relationships of till the children have left home.

ninkynonk22 · 05/04/2024 16:15

No point beating yourself up about moving too quickly at the start. What's done is done and I'm sure many people have made similar mistakes.

What matters is what you do now. Stepparening can be hard. I often have to mediate between my dh and ds who was 4 when we got together. Now he's a teen there's lots of alpha male nonsense going on and dh does think I'm too soft. However overall they get along and I know ds would be gutted if we split because he has been in his life for most of his childhood.

Does your dd actually like your dh? He sounds like a bully with an ego. This means he won't admit he's wrong or change his ways. If he won't listen and he's repeatedly upsetting your child you have to end things. It will be incredibly damaging to a young girl to grow up in a house walking on eggshells where she's clearly aware that she's treated differently.

Put her first.

InfiniteGoodVibes · 05/04/2024 16:17

It’s been a constant theme, what will happen is dc will do something (either an accident like falling off a chair and he will tell her off for messing, or she might be grumpy and he will punish her too harshly or say something harsh) and I will step in if dc is upset, to defend. Then he will get extremely angry with me and shout at me, storm off, disappear for the rest of the day, Etc all in front of dc. He says I don’t co parent with him and I don’t ‘listen’ but when I try to explain it’s my instinct to protect dc he just won’t hear it

He is awful and hellbent on control. Your poor dc. Really OP, get rid of him.

There will already be damage. And why the fuck would you be co-parenting with him? Did he adopt dc?

You need to leave him immediately. He is a bully and will cause serious issues for your dc as they enter adulthood.

Bobbotgegrinch · 05/04/2024 16:17

You've put your daughter through this for the better part of 8 years, why would you do it for a moment longer?

One thing that really jumped out at me is that you describe your daughter as shy. How could she possibly be anything else when the slightest thing she does will undoubtedly cause an explosion of anger?

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