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The famous 'how are you?' text from the ex...

287 replies

PiningPenelope · 29/03/2024 19:47

Bf and I broke up after a fight last week. I wanted to work things through, he decided end it. I handled it with what I could muster of dignity and accepted his decision.

He's since been responding to my social media Stories, sent the odd message. Then went quiet for a couple of days as I didn't want to accept breadcrumbs and was in a lot of pain.

Then this morning I get 'How are you?'

Now, have any ladies on here ever successfully reconciled with an ex from this place? I am interested in reconciliation but I don't want to beg for someone who doesn't want me.

But I'm worried if I don't respond to him, he will think I've moved on.

Any advice how to respond to the 'How are you?' when the hope is reconciliation?

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WoodBurningStov · 01/04/2024 11:04

He gotcha Grin you responded.... he's not interested in the animal or your wellbeing, he's after an ego boost or booty call, or to relieve some boredom.

If he had half a brain and genuinely wanted to reconnect he'd have said so. This is such a lazy way to reconnect without any dent to his own ego or him having to admit to any wrong doing.

EatCrow · 01/04/2024 11:06

I have these occasionally, often years in between, and I know his latest woman has kicked him out so he’s back with his mother. He’s very deluded.

Ofcourseshecan · 01/04/2024 11:34

OP, if you are open to giving it another chance, I would be honest and tell him so. There’s nothing shameful or undignified in that.

You don’t know if he’s (1) trying to reconcile, or (2) trying to ‘stay friends’ to ease his conscience or even (3) trying to string you along as a back- up.

2 and 3 are just wasting your time. But if he’s clumsily trying to backpedal, I would give him a chance to apologise and explain.

Make it clear that you’re willing to talk things through with him, to try to solve whatever you were arguing about, to see his point of view and decide whether it can work for you. But you’re not willing to paper over the cracks, or to accept options 2 or 3.

Best of luck, OP. Don’t play silly power games, even if it turns out he is. You’re better than that.

Missamyp · 01/04/2024 12:04

Ofcourseshecan · 01/04/2024 11:34

OP, if you are open to giving it another chance, I would be honest and tell him so. There’s nothing shameful or undignified in that.

You don’t know if he’s (1) trying to reconcile, or (2) trying to ‘stay friends’ to ease his conscience or even (3) trying to string you along as a back- up.

2 and 3 are just wasting your time. But if he’s clumsily trying to backpedal, I would give him a chance to apologise and explain.

Make it clear that you’re willing to talk things through with him, to try to solve whatever you were arguing about, to see his point of view and decide whether it can work for you. But you’re not willing to paper over the cracks, or to accept options 2 or 3.

Best of luck, OP. Don’t play silly power games, even if it turns out he is. You’re better than that.

He's probably attempting a half-arsed reconciliation.
The op still hasn't told us what or how vociferous the fight was.

Ohnodontwantthiscrush · 01/04/2024 12:59

Hi OP, yes I reconciled with an ex in the past and no it wasn't a disaster. We went on to spend many happy years together.

However! I have broken up with guys and then, bored, messaged them. It's not enough. Once I spotted their hopeful replies I went back to feeling before I did before I finished with them. It's offputting knowing someone is moping about with a broken heart.

If you want him back don't block but don't reply. Don't reply to ANYTHING except "I've made a terrible mistake. Please can we try again." And then you take your time responding and say something ambiguous like "You've clearly got stuff on your mind. I'm m willing to hear you out. You can call me tonight at X time".

And you must not sit and wait for that text doe him. You must do your absolute best to move on. Get out there, surround yourself with things and people you love, spend some money on yourself, take some time to learn a hobby. If he does come back he will be coming back to a new improved fabulous you who is not sure if she even wants a relationship especially not with him.

Good luck! Nothing worse than a broken heart but they do heal.

NotARealWookiie · 01/04/2024 13:47

PiningPenelope · 31/03/2024 18:17

I knew I was gonna get flamed for that. 😥

I've not replied to his response, and don't intend to. I'm not letting him walk back into my life and 'the game isn't up'. My weakness is not inevitable. I was just trying to clarify why I haven't blocked him.

You do you OP. I doubt everyone telling you to block him live the perfect lives.

Easipeelerie · 01/04/2024 15:11

You’ve said he’s started following local thirst trap looking girls. That’s vulgar and immature. You wouldn’t want someone like that anyway, would you?

Mmhmmn · 01/04/2024 17:35

What pp said about him realising that sex is harder to come by (scuse the pun!) than he thought it would be. Self esteem suffering, trying to reel the old gf back in. Better spending your time thinking of ways of enjoying yourself. The 45 days thing and blocking him might be a good move.

AmaryllisChorus · 01/04/2024 17:42

NotARealWookiie · 31/03/2024 14:25

I have a slightly different perspective, I agree his texts are unnecessary but I’d be inclined to reply and say “I’m doing ok thanks but it’s not helpful to me in for you to message me following the break up. please stop, i won’t be replying again.”

Totally understand that this won’t work for everyone but I find personally I prefer to clearly communicate what I want. There’s no loss of face in the above message if you did want to respond.

Edited

But I think a message like that would feed his ego that she is so traumatised by the split that she can't face being in touch. Better to ignore. I suspect the whole messaging thing is ego-bound. He is horrified by the possibility that she isn't that bothered about the break up. That makes her suddenly more desirable and he's trying to reel her back in to find out if she is devastated.

Nagado · 01/04/2024 18:31

Despite a lot of advice suggesting otherwise, I chose to respond with "April", in that it directly answers his question without warranting or inviting further response I think you’ll end up regretting that decision in the future. I’ve had a similar situation and I promise you that there is no positive outcome for you here. Best case scenario is that it delays your healing by months. Worst case is that he messes with your head so much that it breaks your heart and causes you all sorts of upset.

Surprisingly, he replied within seconds, offering assistance with the animal and inquiring about my well-being Well yes, of course he did. Because he doesn’t give a shit about the animal; he was using it as an excuse to have a conversation with you because you didn’t fall for his ‘how are you’ opening gambit. If I owned one, I’d bet my house that he has absolutely zero interest in this animal. How many times has he been to visit it since you moved it up there? It’s not about the animal. It’s about manipulating you into replying to him.

While many of you are suggest blocking and moving on, I'm hesitant to completely shut the door. My gut tells me he might be grappling with doubts about his decision and too much of a coward to outrightly say it Is that your gut? Or is that wishful thinking? And if he’s having doubts and realising that there isn’t a queue of beautiful women waiting to have nsa sex with him, isn’t he just hedging his bets with you to decide whether he prefers single life or a relationship with you? If he keeps that door open, he’s got a way to come back in if things don’t work out for him, but doesn’t have to go as far as actually making you any promises about the future. If any of those gorgeous Instagram girls came knocking, would he still be messaging?

I am not saying I'm waiting on him changing his mind. Farthest from that, I feel really self-focused and am letting go every hour that passes and all my energy is going into moving on And yet, he’s still there, in the background, taking up drips of your emotional energy. He’s the human equivalent of a slow puncture. You might feel like you’re able to move on, but you can’t properly heal until he’s gone.

I'm just saying, I guess, I still love him & no, I won't settle for breadcrumbs. But I also know he's not an abusive narcissist who I need to block for the sake of my safety and mental health Of course you still love him. Those feelings don’t go away overnight. And he might not be an abusive narcissist or a risk to your safety. But he is unbelievably selfish. What possible motives could he have for contacting you? Perhaps he’s feeling guilty and is worried about you? Well that’s all to do with him and his conscience, isn’t it? Making him feel better and less guilty. Or perhaps he thought that you’d be begging and pleading with him to change his mind. So that’ll be his ego; wanting to know that you are actually broken hearted over him and not merrily getting on with your life. Or perhaps he’s missing you and thinking that he made the wrong decision? He hasn’t driven down and asked to talk things through, has he? He hasn’t unfollowed any of those local girls on Instagram, has he? He hasn’t said sorry for how suddenly things ended? Even the nicest, kindest people have it in them to be selfish when it comes to their own love life.

You spent three years loving this man. Travelling up and down the country to see him. Being faithful to him and trusting in him that he was being faithful to you. And after three years of that, he dumps you over the phone without even discussing what the problem was or how you could work through it together? Where was his loyalty and his love and care for you? And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was an argument over nothing that blew up out of nowhere. Please don’t fall for his rubbish, it’s such a cliche.

chocolategg · 01/04/2024 18:35

Ah the twisty turny justification. Just get on with your life and don't look back

Nagado · 01/04/2024 18:39

NotARealWookiie · 01/04/2024 13:47

You do you OP. I doubt everyone telling you to block him live the perfect lives.

Isn’t that sort of the point? Do you want advice from someone who has led a charmed life, has never been hurt or used, or met someone who has tried to take advantage of them?

Or do you want advice from people who have been in that situation, have come out the other side and know what is going to cause the OP the least amount of pain?

hollyandivyknickers · 01/04/2024 18:44

He is sending literal crumbs.

not ‘I am so sorry I made a mistake’

not’marry me I made awful error’

not ‘I miss you so much please please get in touch I fucked it up I am so sorry’

but actually :( :(

is that all you are worth ?

NotARealWookiie · 02/04/2024 19:09

Nagado · 01/04/2024 18:39

Isn’t that sort of the point? Do you want advice from someone who has led a charmed life, has never been hurt or used, or met someone who has tried to take advantage of them?

Or do you want advice from people who have been in that situation, have come out the other side and know what is going to cause the OP the least amount of pain?

Definitely the point, totally agree that it’s good to hear different perspectives but in the end there are several options and it’s up to her to listen to those options and then follow the advice that feels the right fit for her.

Southern68 · 02/04/2024 19:18

NotARealWookiie · 02/04/2024 19:09

Definitely the point, totally agree that it’s good to hear different perspectives but in the end there are several options and it’s up to her to listen to those options and then follow the advice that feels the right fit for her.

Couldn't agree more, what works for one person might not for another, we're all individuals who respond to situations in our own way.

Thefutureisourownpath · 02/04/2024 19:23

Either don’t reply or say - who is this? Depending on your mood but actually don’t engage is the best way to go

RogueFemale · 02/04/2024 19:27

Newgolddream70 · 29/03/2024 20:20

You need to send the thumbs up emoji!

Another vote for this. It's absolutely perfect.

PiningPenelope · 02/04/2024 20:06

Hey all.. to update, I didn't respond to his offer of help / asking how I am. Yesterday I felt really low but tried to make the most of it. Today feels much the same. I guess it's a grieving process, so will take a while to feel ok.

I guess I realised if he really wants to reconcile then me not responding to wishy washy, confusing texts won't stop him. I also realised I need to let go of hoping. I need to move on. Even if he crept his way back from the breakup into some form of friendship / reconciliation, the toll on my self-esteem would be massive.

He dumped me when I made it clear I was prepared to work on things with him. If he changes his mind, he has some real work to do.

I really hope he doesn't message again. I have been thinking for the first time that I may be best blocking him.

OP posts:
PossumintheHouse · 02/04/2024 20:12

PiningPenelope · 02/04/2024 20:06

Hey all.. to update, I didn't respond to his offer of help / asking how I am. Yesterday I felt really low but tried to make the most of it. Today feels much the same. I guess it's a grieving process, so will take a while to feel ok.

I guess I realised if he really wants to reconcile then me not responding to wishy washy, confusing texts won't stop him. I also realised I need to let go of hoping. I need to move on. Even if he crept his way back from the breakup into some form of friendship / reconciliation, the toll on my self-esteem would be massive.

He dumped me when I made it clear I was prepared to work on things with him. If he changes his mind, he has some real work to do.

I really hope he doesn't message again. I have been thinking for the first time that I may be best blocking him.

You're doing so fantastically well. Let him keep snivelling.

MissHarrietBede · 02/04/2024 20:16

I feel blocking may be best now. It's clear he's only messaging for the ego trip of your replies and hoping he can get you to beg him to take you back. Blocking him now sends a clear message.

Tassen · 02/04/2024 20:20

Having discussed this block vs not block thing with a my male friends.
According to them men block you if they're not interested & want nothing more to do with you/couldn't care less about you & have moved on.

If they don't block you then they're still interested in some way whether that be because they miss you/know they fucked up/want a reconciliation/feel bad for hurting you/want to keep tabs on you.
Or they just want an easy lay.
Or they just get a perverse thrill from winding you up.

Having also discussed this with my female friends they say exactly the same as my male friends do and I agree too.

Edited for typo

dibly · 02/04/2024 20:38

You’re doing so well OP, there’s bound to be some bad days, especially bank holiday weekends when newly single, but every day is a step toward your future and, when you’re ready, there’s better men out there. Keep
posting, really rooting for you.

Bone11 · 02/04/2024 21:10

Sending you lots of love OP. Break ups are so hard, and hoping they will change their minds is so upsetting. Unfortunately sometimes we just don't get what we deserve, even when we do everything right. And when someone you love treats you badly or lets you down there is nothing that hurts quite like it. Hope you are taking care of yourself.

dullestofall · 02/04/2024 21:44

From my own experience, even when we make a firm decision to not go back and we know for sure we won’t and we don’t want to, if they message, it spoils the flow of healing and messes up with our head again.

WoodBurningStov · 03/04/2024 08:44

It's as if they know you're just about to turn a corner and then 'wham' incomes the text. My on and off relationship with a man was like this. He'd dump me, and just as I was starting to feel better I'd get a text, the message would say nothing apart from an 'X'. It would completely ruin any healing I'd done and put me in a tail spin for a week or so. The best thing I ever did was block him.