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Dumped, but he's text. No contact or reply?

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Soggybuiscut · 22/03/2024 22:13

I've just been dumped over the phone about an hour ago by bf of 3 years.
He's now text me some love hearts... Mind fuck.

Do I reply, or ultimately go no contact and just ignore?

I'm obviously in turmoil and want him back, but with perspective do think I deserve better.

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beAsensible1 · 23/03/2024 09:21

Sceptical123 · 23/03/2024 08:25

If you have any self respect - IGNORE

My rule was - you end it, there’s no way back. It’s happened to me a few times and every single time they have contacted me to either apologise/check that I’m ok/share something on social media they think I’d like/want to meet up - no, no, bloody no.

Of course it’s tempting to go back to the way things were, no one wants to be dumped or the relationship they were happy to be in to be ripped from under them - but the thing you’ve got to remember is - he ended it, for a reason.

That reason could be he’s decided it’s too much hassle, too expensive, you’re high maintenance, you’re boring, his friends/family don’t like you, he’s met somebody he wants to/is sleeping with…. anything. But if you think getting back together with someone who has ended the relationship with you will make you happier, you are likely to be very, very wrong and feel worse about yourself than before.

The reason he had for ending it won’t go away, but he may be influenced by other facts that ultimately affect his well-being, not yours - being single isn’t as fun as he was expecting, he misses easily accessible sex and emotional support, other women don’t find him as attractive as he expected them to and aren’t lining up to jump into bed with him, he has less things in the calendar and could do with something more to occupy him…

He doesn’t actually care that he hurt you, he ended it bc it felt right at the time for him and the only reason he’d attempt to start it up again is bc it would be the right thing to do at the time. For him.

I’ve no idea what the conversation was like or the context for the love hearts - my guess would be is that they’re his attempt to assuage his guilt for the upset he’s caused and to keep an opening should single life/the other woman he has his eye on/is bedding doesn’t work out for him. He knows he’s got an easy way back with you if he keeps you hoping that he still cares - 🙄🤢😑 for your own self respect and to protect your newly mended heart from shattering more badly than when he broke it the first time around - don’t be taken in and give him a second chance. He’s ended it once, if you’re so easy-going to just accept this then take him back again he’ll have no hesitation in doing it again. He won’t respect you.

The best way to show him that you’re not affected in the slightest (even if you want to remain under your duvet for the forseeable) is to do nothing.

Don’t respond. Don’t block (as this will show you care enough to do this) show him you’re too pre-occupied with other things to bother. I can guarantee this will get to him. It will make him uncertain. He will question himself. He will wonder if the sadness you had initially at his dumping of you has gone already - was it even real? Did your relationship actually not mean as much to you as he thought it did? Are you over him? Are you out with your friends having a great time without him? Have you met somebody else?

Have you moved on?

In my experience this reaction is very real and that is when they start to ramp up
the contact bc they hate the idea that they didn’t mean as much to you as they assumed and that there’s no way back.

Just do not respond. He probably doesn’t want to get back together. He wants you to assure him he’s not a shit guy - ego boost, that you still care - ego boost, that you’re a fail safe if his new-found freedom falls through - ego boost.

Taking him back will be a short-term fix, but if you want to feel good about yourself moving forward and get back at him for being a complete bastard (which he may not may not be depending on the circumstances) i g n o r e . . . . . !

—edited bc last para deleted for some reason

Edited

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This needs to be a PSA for all women everywhere.

the random texts never mean anything, they don’t want you. They just want you to want them.

IncompleteSenten · 23/03/2024 09:31

It's nice to see a woman with standards. Well done.

PersephonePomegranate23 · 23/03/2024 09:40

He feels bad and is checking you're OK/saying he still cares. It's abput assauging his own guilt, I wouldn't take it as him trying to get you back at all.

JFDIYOLO · 23/03/2024 09:50

He's 35 and uses coke and ketamin. At that age, it's a deeply established and expensive dependent habit. His health, mental health and looks will start to deteriorate in it. It will only get wirse. They will lie, say and do anything to get the next fix. Their deepest relationship is with their drug of choice.

He is also not sure he wants to be with you. You want committment and whole hearted presence. You're not on the same page.

From what you wrote, "I said that I don't want to be with someone who isn't sure they want to be with me. I said, if he wants to leave it I'll respect his decision. Though that's not what I want. He was just silent (coward). And so I wished him good luck and goodbye." It sounds like you broke up with him.

To be honest, I think down the line that will be the best thing.

Relationships have good bits and bad bits - the drug dependency and half heartedness are in conflict with the good times, happy memories and the brain happy hormones you got from the good times. But they will only get worse and more painful.

Your day sounds like a brilliant idea - enjoy it.

Smineusername · 23/03/2024 09:51

He doesn't want to break up, he wants to downgrade your relationship into a 'situationship' whereby he can avail of your sexual and emotional services while offering you no commitment in return. Hence not confirming explicitly he wants to end things and then keeping you dangling with meaningless emoji bullshit. There probably is someone else on the scene who he hasn't locked down yet. Regardless he has now clearly shown he has no respect for you/thinks he can do better so I'd cut him off forever 👋

Daffodilsarentfluffy · 23/03/2024 09:54

Imo everyone deserves more than a druggy bf....
Surely you rate yourself worth more than that?

Onlinetherapist · 23/03/2024 09:55

@Soggybuiscut just for the purpose of trying to make sense of your telephone conversation and what he wanted from that..

What were the main issues in the relationship/specifically the issues that caused those arguments just prior to call?

Pleiades2020 · 23/03/2024 12:07

If someone wants to break up there's nothing you can do to change their minds. All you can do is accept and move on, but that is difficult and takes time. The emotions are strong immediately after and cloud your judgement. It's only after about a month that the physical effects wear off and allow you to look at the situation with clarity. No contact isn't really about getting your partner back, it's about accepting their decision and knowing you actually no longer want them back

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 12:13

Thanks everyone. I've had my nails done and they've perked me up. Weather is too horrific for a walk so I've found solace in the local bookshop.

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JovialNickname · 23/03/2024 12:18

user8800 · 23/03/2024 07:53

Reply : "who dis?'
Then block and delete

Why do people always suggest this absolutely moronic response? OP sounds like an intelligent, articulate, admirable person. Why would she want to dignify the situation with an answer, particularly one that would make her sound like she has a single digit IQ?

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 12:58

@Sceptical123
You are totally right. Even if we WERE to reconcile at some point, I feel like it would come at the cost of my self-esteem. He's broken us. He's made it plain he doesn't care enough. Whether that changes in time, or not, doesn't matter. All that matters now is me, and moving forward. Knowing he's not right for me.

I've made a big list of all his 'cons', as if the drug abuse weren't enough. And I realise I have pulled the wool over my eyes and been hanging on / working hard to make this relationship work for a long time.

Just some of the things on the list ...

  • Substance abuse (says he'll change)
  • Recovering alcoholic, but went on a bender before our fight.
  • Historic use of prostitutes (before me)
  • Follows OF models and pornstars on social media
  • Tried to sleep with a previous flame when we'd been together for 6 months. Only didn't as she rejected him. He made me feel like I was overacting as we 'weren't technically together' he said. This is despite us having the exclusivity conversation months before and having just returned from a week's holiday in Spain.
  • He had a son from a one night stand and makes questionable parenting decisions. Not emotionally supportive or warm to his child, but provides.
  • Never changed his bedding. Ever.
  • House is like a teenage boys.
  • Earns 6 figure salary but has no money owing to bad spending habits and probably his drugs.
  • Once shoved me to the ground in an escalated fight.
  • Makes basic efforts towards me - I do a lot of the heavy lifting in the relationship as he works more than me. So I basically work around him to see him.

What the fuck am I doing pining over this loser?! I definitely need some counselling to address my self-esteem. I feel like I've never set a boundary with him and for ONCE I did and he's dumped me for it.

AND ... I'm not saying I'm a 10/10 but I am a loving, kind, generous and wholehearted person with a fairly good job, nice friends, hobbies, stable family. My friends have always told me he's completely punching above his weight, and his friends have openly told me that infront of him too! I go to the gym, stay healthy, am in good shape, don't drink, have never smoked. I'm not saying I'm a catch but I definitely don't think I'm a bad person to be with. And I've always been a very loving, generous and supportive partner.

Fuck him.

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PossumintheHouse · 23/03/2024 13:01

Fucking hell. Please stick that post on your fridge and read it if you feel like you're wavering.
He sounds hideous.

ManyATrueWord · 23/03/2024 13:16

@Soggybuiscut I'm glad you got to angry so fast. Stay there until you can move into dgaf. Well done!
No soggy backbone that's for sure.

Drapion · 23/03/2024 13:23

Maybe to ask your friends and family about what they thought of him, I dare say with that rap sheet they wouldn't like him very much! By asking them it might strengthen your resolve to keep him a million miles away from you. And equally awkward if you ever get back with him.

Sceptical123 · 23/03/2024 13:30

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 12:58

@Sceptical123
You are totally right. Even if we WERE to reconcile at some point, I feel like it would come at the cost of my self-esteem. He's broken us. He's made it plain he doesn't care enough. Whether that changes in time, or not, doesn't matter. All that matters now is me, and moving forward. Knowing he's not right for me.

I've made a big list of all his 'cons', as if the drug abuse weren't enough. And I realise I have pulled the wool over my eyes and been hanging on / working hard to make this relationship work for a long time.

Just some of the things on the list ...

  • Substance abuse (says he'll change)
  • Recovering alcoholic, but went on a bender before our fight.
  • Historic use of prostitutes (before me)
  • Follows OF models and pornstars on social media
  • Tried to sleep with a previous flame when we'd been together for 6 months. Only didn't as she rejected him. He made me feel like I was overacting as we 'weren't technically together' he said. This is despite us having the exclusivity conversation months before and having just returned from a week's holiday in Spain.
  • He had a son from a one night stand and makes questionable parenting decisions. Not emotionally supportive or warm to his child, but provides.
  • Never changed his bedding. Ever.
  • House is like a teenage boys.
  • Earns 6 figure salary but has no money owing to bad spending habits and probably his drugs.
  • Once shoved me to the ground in an escalated fight.
  • Makes basic efforts towards me - I do a lot of the heavy lifting in the relationship as he works more than me. So I basically work around him to see him.

What the fuck am I doing pining over this loser?! I definitely need some counselling to address my self-esteem. I feel like I've never set a boundary with him and for ONCE I did and he's dumped me for it.

AND ... I'm not saying I'm a 10/10 but I am a loving, kind, generous and wholehearted person with a fairly good job, nice friends, hobbies, stable family. My friends have always told me he's completely punching above his weight, and his friends have openly told me that infront of him too! I go to the gym, stay healthy, am in good shape, don't drink, have never smoked. I'm not saying I'm a catch but I definitely don't think I'm a bad person to be with. And I've always been a very loving, generous and supportive partner.

Fuck him.

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It sounds like you are totally in the right mindset and you’ve allowed the scales to finally fall from your eyes. Well done 🌟

Its bloody tough, especially if you’ve invested so much into a relationship - the longer it goes on and the more you put up with, the more you’re determined/desperate for it to be a success. But some relationships are a lost cause. And people. He’s one. He doesn’t sound like he had anything going for him except you, and he’s managed to stuff that up for himself the silly twat. This makes it even more likely that he’ll try to contact you when his mates give him hell for being such a bloody idiot and he slowly realises it himself.

Don’t think of it as a 100% waste of your time bc it serves to show you what to look out for in terms of red flags and what you won’t accept in the future.

It won’t feel like it right now but he has absolutely done you a favour. In the not-too distant future you will look back and wonder how the hell you put up with it, but from an elevated vantage point in a far happier place.

Good luck 🩷

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 13:59

Oh another thing on the list....

  • He was once away for work and I went to visit him. I found condoms in his back pack that he takes with him to work. He said I was crazy and they were from before he met me and just left in there and basically made me feel awful for even questioning him.
I did check the expiry date etc and it made me believe they weren't very old condoms but recently bought. But I just submitted. Wasn't reassured, but shamed into silence. We'd been together well over a year and a half at this point.
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Nicole1111 · 23/03/2024 14:02

Highly recommend the book overcoming low self esteem. It’s written by a doctor, is on the nhs recommended reading list and is essentially do it yourself cbt without the price tag. Has been a game changer for me and many a friend.

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 14:04

@Nicole1111 ooo thank you I will get this!

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Nicole1111 · 23/03/2024 14:09

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 14:04

@Nicole1111 ooo thank you I will get this!

And add women who love too much to your shopping list and the affirmation book of the same name.

JFDIYOLO · 23/03/2024 14:20

Well done!!!!!

Print that list and stick it on your fridge, on the front door, on the bathroom mirror, landline and laptop ... Anywhere you'll see it when you waver.

You, in his mind, belonged in a small handy compartment that he accessed when it suited him. He's one compartment down at the moment so will probably try to hoover it back.

You on the other hand wanted him to only have one compartment marked 'us'.

Fundamentally incompatible.

There are four billion men on the planet. This one's a dud.

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 14:25

@JFDIYOLO ... a "dud!"😂

Thank you! That made me laugh for the first time today!

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Zebracat · 23/03/2024 14:32

I honestly think you will look back to now as the best thing that could have happened to you. You are a catch, you are amazing. He’s a dick.

PaminaMozart · 23/03/2024 15:26

Never changed his bedding. Ever

Oh my fing God....!!!!!!

No just no..... 😱

FinallyHere · 23/03/2024 16:02

charliefair · 22/03/2024 23:07

Id rather he just tell me it's over.

You tell him.

This. Take back your power and then completely resist contacting him.

Soggybuiscut · 23/03/2024 16:47

I hope I've done the right thing.. I just can't bring myself to go out right now and have cancelled on going out with my pal😪I'm on the sofa under my duvet watching Happy Valley, and all I want to do is stay here and order takeaway.

My friend is going to come round to chat and give me a hug.

I HATE him for putting me through this. What a prick!

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