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DP pulled back from affair and told me

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Tartanboots · 27/02/2024 19:33

Sorry it's a bit long!

My DP works with a younger woman and when she started working there, about a year ago, he said her behaviour was overly flirty and attention seeking, both with him and with other blokes. He mentioned this to others also, and they agreed (he says). All her friends seem to be male incidentally (he says) I was not overly bothered, some people are just like that. She is married with young children.

He started talking about her daily. We were on holiday and she was messaging him early in the morning- about a work emergency (he says). I was annoyed at that. He started staying up late on WhatsApp. I was a bit concerned but he just said he was reading stuff his brother has sent him. I said it was a bit weird that she would message him on his personal number out of hours, rather than at work, he would shrug it off as that is what they all do at his work, which is true.

Before Christmas a mutual male friend of DP and this woman told DP she was splitting from her husband. She said to this friend and others at work that her husband had banned her from having coffee or lunch with blokes at work.

Last week DP said she's been seen looking dreadful and parks her car in a different place from before so she doesn't have to see anyone going in or out of the building.

This weekend he's been very stressed and down. He said he is sick of women coming on to him and trying to use him for attention and to distract themselves from their own poor relationships. Specifically women from his work, and this woman in particular. He said he realised what she was up to ie wanting an affair, and that it would wreck his life if he did so, so he has pulled back from it and has distanced himself.

He said he told me all this in the hope it would make our relationship better. As we have been distant lately and he doesn't like it as he wants us to be happy together so he isn't "that person" who goes looking for extra sex as they're not getting it at home, like that woman, and potentially him.

Over the last few days, more details emerged, like she said to him it was his indifference that made her interested (he'd asked why she was interested in a 50 year old bloke) and that was when he realised the contact had gone too far, she was being more than just flirty, and he started being distant, not replying to messages. This was about 2 months ago he says, so around the time her marriage difficulties were mentioned by the mutual friend.

I had a go at him when I got in from work today because I just don't know what to think. I knew something was off in the summer and now various things are popping into my head like why did his messages suddenly stop showing content on his lock screen, and other things like his lack of interest in sex.

He had a massive go at me after I got angry, saying all he wants is to make things better and that was the reason he told me, he didn't fuck her or touch her in any way, he is not attracted to her as he sees her for what she is (an attention seeking temptress presumably), he wouldn't have told me at all if there was something serious going on and I am being unfair giving him a hard time.

I just can't understand why he told me. If he realised he was getting into an inappropriate situation and stopped it surely that's that, why tell me? I can't compete with a 34 year old at 50 and I'm not going to try. I get he wants to make our relationship better as do I, but telling me he's nearly shagged someone is not helping at all.

I asked if he'd blocked her and he hasn't as she's stopped messaging now anyway so he feels he doesn't need to.

We've lived together for 6 years, both previously divorced, joint mortgage, no kids together, I've got 2 teenagers. Both work full time.. I'm not fat or unattractive but the other woman is much more attractive than me, from what I've seen of her, and throwing herself at him as well, wow.

Am I being unfair to him by being angry and not being sure how I feel about this yet?

OP posts:
Frangipanyoul8r · 27/02/2024 22:05

This weekend he's been very stressed and down. He said he is sick of women coming on to him and trying to use him for attention

🤣🤣🤣 What a load of arrogant self aggrandising bullshit! Is his head too far up his own arse to realise flirting is a two way exchange?! If he didn’t keep responding to messages, there wouldn’t be an issue here.

Loubelle70 · 27/02/2024 22:05

FairyMaclary · 27/02/2024 19:48

Sorry op but you may find there was more going on and her husband has found out and he is worried the husband is going to tell you. So he has told you a tale to discredit this woman just in case. Suggesting she comes on to all men and she is flirty etc. I suspect more has happened as he is clearly making her sound like the bad guy.

At the very least it’s an emotional affair. However it could be physical. Cheaters lie. They then minimise and lie a bit more. They lie by omission too. As light is shone on the truth they trickle out the bare minimum as they feel they deserve to know more than you. They like controlling your knowledge and take away your consent and ability to make informed decisions.

Him getting cross shows he isn’t remorseful or even aware of what damage he has done.

Read ‘not just friends’ by Shirley Glass - it’s not a long read.

But trickle truth is normal and I would want to restore his phone if possible - he will have deleted everything.

Also read the cheaters handbook and see if any of the behaviour matches what he was doing.

If you are confident enough I would contact her husband and find out what he knows, but DO NOT tell your husband. This helps in two ways 1) you will possibly find out if there was more going on with your husband or another man (this would in fact validate your husbands story) if the office temptress has many a man on the go (I doubt it) 2) You will quickly find out if the women and your husband are still speaking.

Saved me typing.agree with all of this

Loubelle70 · 27/02/2024 22:08

SecondChancesAtLife · 27/02/2024 20:49

Sorry but I think this is damage limitation at its most manipulative from him.

More has happened and he’s getting in there first with his bullshit story so you are prepared with the “truth” when it comes out.

Yep

Noseybookworm · 27/02/2024 22:16

I'm not sure of his motivation for telling you all this, is he trying to make you jealous? Is it a bit of a humble-brag - oh this young attractive woman at work fancies me? I get the feeling there's more to this than meets the eye OP and things may have gone further than he admits 🤔

Tartanboots · 27/02/2024 22:18

Thanks for all the replies.
He's never said it was sexual harassment, that was my take on it, if I'd been on the receiving end of the behaviour he told me about when she started working there. It was general to all though, not just him, as he described it.
She does seem to attract attention. I saw a comment, on a social media picture of hers, from another middle aged male colleague of theirs, saying "hot" to a new profile pic of her in a skimpy top. DP said how inappropriate it was for the man to make the comment. This man and her had been messaging too. DP said it was dodgy, she'd complained to him about the other bloke messaging her at night, but then he was doing the same!
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, as he could have told me nothing. But I think more might come out.
There was one woman a few years ago who was also flirty with him, but there was no cause for concern and nothing went on so far as I know.
He is attractive to women generally. Has a sense of humour and is unusually emotional for a man. But they're not throwing themselves at him. It's this one woman who has triggered the outburst.

OP posts:
MCOut · 27/02/2024 22:19

Trust your instincts. I think he’s full of shit. If he wasn’t encouraging anything and hadn’t done anything wrong then you would not have noticed a change in his behaviour. If he even changed the way messages were appearing on his phone, then at best he was having an emotional affair.

Tartanboots · 27/02/2024 22:24

Noseybookworm · 27/02/2024 22:16

I'm not sure of his motivation for telling you all this, is he trying to make you jealous? Is it a bit of a humble-brag - oh this young attractive woman at work fancies me? I get the feeling there's more to this than meets the eye OP and things may have gone further than he admits 🤔

Yes exactly, what effect did he want it to have, if not to make me angry with him. It doesn't paint him in a good light really.

OP posts:
Surfapparel · 27/02/2024 22:25

Tartanboots · 27/02/2024 22:18

Thanks for all the replies.
He's never said it was sexual harassment, that was my take on it, if I'd been on the receiving end of the behaviour he told me about when she started working there. It was general to all though, not just him, as he described it.
She does seem to attract attention. I saw a comment, on a social media picture of hers, from another middle aged male colleague of theirs, saying "hot" to a new profile pic of her in a skimpy top. DP said how inappropriate it was for the man to make the comment. This man and her had been messaging too. DP said it was dodgy, she'd complained to him about the other bloke messaging her at night, but then he was doing the same!
I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, as he could have told me nothing. But I think more might come out.
There was one woman a few years ago who was also flirty with him, but there was no cause for concern and nothing went on so far as I know.
He is attractive to women generally. Has a sense of humour and is unusually emotional for a man. But they're not throwing themselves at him. It's this one woman who has triggered the outburst.

Sounds like he could have been jealous of this other man tbh.

Suchagroovyguy · 27/02/2024 22:44

He’s a liar. Take my house if I’m wrong.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 27/02/2024 23:08

Is he normally as dumb as a box of rocks because his story just isn't plausible? Also, you probably know him well enough to know if he's lying, almost everyone has tells.

If innocent and he genuinely believes that he has neglected your marraige, then why all this filler story, wouldn't a normal person just work on their marraige?

Why & how does she have his personal number when presumably he has a work number?

Why is he sad and depressed?

Mentioning she doesn't look great.....trying to say she's not attractive etc.

Saying he's stick of women coming into him...seriously? As if and also why not shut it down if it's causing him such stress?!

He's trying to control a narrative here and it sounds like damage limitation.

I suspect that he thought she was into him and was leaving her marraige to be with him. He suggested it and is gobsmacked she rejected him.

Whether or not they were together already, I'm leaning ever so slightly to perhaps not (howver I wouldn't be at all surprised if I'm wrong).

I think she has rejected him now amd that's why he's sad, down and trying to tell a version of the story that reflects badly in her not him, incase you get wind of any of it.

Opentooffers · 27/02/2024 23:43

Yep, I'm thinking they had a thing, her DH found out, it hit home to her and she's ended the thing with your DH - hence the upset. So now she's doing what her DH has asked of her and your DH has decided he'd better focus on his marriage, so now he's all about sorting things out with you.
There's only her Dh out of who knows who might be be willing to say the truth of it. I'd definitely approach him if you have a way of contacting him.
If she did complain to your DH about the other man contacting her at night, but at the same time she was happy to contact your DH, that suggests that this OM was unwanted attention, whereas your DH was wanted. Maybe until her DH found out.

MrsDoubtfire24 · 27/02/2024 23:47

He sounds quite angry and bitter about her. I wonder if she has started to flirt with a different colleague .

Voone · 27/02/2024 23:48

@ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees

Mentioning she doesn't look great.....trying to say she's not attractive etc.

No this comes across more like saying she's not doing well, maybe headed towards a mental breakdown....so if anything comes out he can say she's crazy.

Azandme · 27/02/2024 23:52

"I'm not fat..."

What's wrong with being fat? 🙄

Bobbotgegrinch · 28/02/2024 00:02

Tartanboots · 27/02/2024 22:24

Yes exactly, what effect did he want it to have, if not to make me angry with him. It doesn't paint him in a good light really.

I think he's told you because he needs you to know what's going on, he doesn't trust himself so he's putting it on you.

"Mentionitis" often comes up on here as something that happens in the early stage of an affair. It's generally just assumed that the bloke just can't resist mentioning the woman he's got the hots for, even to his wife.

But I don't think that's it. I think it's the bloke saying "I'm starting to fancy someone here and I don't know how to stop it. I'm mentioning this person frequently because I want to raise your suspicions. I need you to hold me to account because I'm not sure I can do it myself"

This is something similar. You had the mentionitis last year, things have progressed. But he's still telling you because he wants to stop before it goes to far and he loses you.

Alternatively, he's already shagged her and he's laying the groundwork for the "she's lying because she wants me" defense. Who knows really, except him.

Blackcats7 · 28/02/2024 00:05

I had an ex who eventually confessed all the opportunities he had for affairs previously but hadn’t acted upon.
He seemed to want me to be grateful.
I wasn’t because being faithful should be the norm.

user1492757084 · 28/02/2024 00:06

If he is an emotional bloke then maybe he's just being honest - and that is his motivation. I think it is harder for men to call out and report inappropriate behaviour in women work mates due to their male egos and traditionally being strong.

What do YOU want, OP?

If you want to stay with him in a secure adult relationship then up your game, believe in him and hear his woes over flirty workmate, confide in him, insist he blocks, reports and ignores any flirty women in future; be more demonstative (because he's asking for that) and move forward happily.

If you want to separate then organise your affairs and do that.

Pinkfrlls · 28/02/2024 00:17

I don't think it's likely he's suddenly feeling guilty about an "emotional" affair. He didn't tell you about in the hope it would make your relationship better. I think he told you because he feared her or her husband might tell you a lot more. I mean he told you he was staying up late on WhatsApp reading stuff his brother has sent him. That was a lie. When is he telling the truth? She has been messaging him out of hours and even when on holiday - there are only so many work emergencies or stuff that can't be sorted at work.

The fact of the matter is is that he is 50 year old man. I hate to disparage 50 year old men but they are old enough to see when somebody might be taking an unhealthy romantic interest and discourage it (a few mad stalkers aside). Also, unless they are rich and powerful, women are unlikely to be throwing themselves at him trying to use him for attention and to distract themselves from their own poor relationships.

I would take a weekend away to think over things. And I would think them over because I would be angry about his behaviour.

Notme931 · 28/02/2024 01:30

OP I have been in a similar scenario but I was in your dh’s position. A few years ago I was in a job where we were all quite pally at work and often went out for drinks on a Friday night. I had a flirty relationship with a guy at the office and we often texted but one day he told me he liked me and didn’t know what to do. He knew I was married and it didn’t go any further as it was wrong but he would often text late in the evening with various messages and to be honest I liked the attention . It ended up with dh finding out by reading a message on my phone.
You have every right to be angry. I do think your husband needs to tell you the truth, because if he was texting this woman he would have liked her, not be fighting her off.
I know I’ve been there.
Dh and I went through a rocky patch after that. I felt extreme guilt, I deleted the other guy’s number and we went to just talking to each other professionally in the office when we needed to. We fixed things by going into marriage counselling but it took a long while. Dh was devastated when he found out as he thought I was having an affair, I felt terrible that I caused him so much pain. That friendship had gone too far and I knew it.
Maybe your dh is feeling guilty, but he needs to be honest and if he’s not taking ownership of his own part in all this he’s either lying to you or himself.

iwafs · 28/02/2024 01:38

SecondChancesAtLife · 27/02/2024 20:49

Sorry but I think this is damage limitation at its most manipulative from him.

More has happened and he’s getting in there first with his bullshit story so you are prepared with the “truth” when it comes out.

I have to agree with this op, sorry

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 28/02/2024 01:53

I’d say there was more going on.

Maybe the colleague’s marriage break up scared him and he shut it down quickly. Maybe she rebuffed him. But there is more to this and he’s on the defensive which speaks volumes.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 28/02/2024 02:19

If he was being sexually harassed surely he's kept the messages as proof? I can't imagine deleting anything like that when I might need them if things escalate. At the least it sound's like if it wasn't an emotional affair he was enjoying and getting a kick out of the attention to the detriment of your relationship.

DeeCeeCherry · 28/02/2024 02:34

Her husband has found out about the messages etc.There is no way after all his mentionitis and messages that this rings true:

He said he is sick of women coming on to him and trying to use him for attention and to distract themselves from their own poor relationships

Yes she likely did use him for attention but dumped him after the shit hit the fan, and now he's got egg on his face. Her husband is more important to her than your husband is. & youll bear the brunt of him feeling upset, unfortunately.

As for 'sick of women coming onto him for attention' etc - is he an Adonis/who are all these women, falling at his feet? I bet its the other way round anyway. He shouldn't have been so silly and now he's paying the price of wounded pride. Also very unprofessional, I wouldn't be surprised if he's being talked about at work

Rania78 · 28/02/2024 02:42

How small some men are indeed.

Don‘t keep these worthless scums around ladies. You deserve people who love and respect you.

SD1978 · 28/02/2024 02:48

Whilst he hasn't necessarily cheated- I think he's trying to paint her as some vacuous harridan because he did step over a line of some sort. Decrying her as 'the temptress' whilst simultaneously changing his social media communication style and suddenly texting privately at times he previously didn't, doesn't paint him as the hornless 50 yr old who had no interest he's trying to make himself out to be. Ultimately he has told you, and it's now up to you- he clearly is telling you for praise of what a good boy he was for resisting the young work trollop- I'd assume a wee bit more to the story than he's letting on, but I think he also realised he almost arsed up.

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