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Is this financial abuse

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Liliana2323 · 22/02/2024 21:54

Hi, ill try to summarise as it's a long, 18yr story!

  • met when I was 22, hubby was 30
  • I had no assets, he had 2 rental properties
  • he got made redundant and suggested a move to Europe, I gave up my career and followed him
  • have both worked online for the last 15yrs
  • he bought house we're in outright. Not a million pound villa but a 200k huge renovation project. Both funded the renovations, he has done a lot of physical work on and off over the last 10 years
  • married with a prenup for his rental properties and the one we're living in
  • I started new business 7yrs ago, doing well
  • he hasn't worked for 18 months so far, nor done renovations (until a couple of weeks ago)
  • house still needs a lot of work, still dont even have 1 fully functioning bathroom!

So the main issue here is that he is quite financially controlling. We use his personal account for day to day bills and expenses, or my business card. my business dividends goes 50/50 to our personal accounts (as he set himself up as a 50% shareholder), then I have to immediately transfer mine to his account. If I go to the supermarket (rare, as he took over that role), or away for a family visit in the UK (twice a year max), he gives me a spare card in his name. He has a couple of loans we effectively both pay + savings, pension, investments and the 2 cars are both in his name.

This arrangement never felt quite right but whenever ive tried in the past to broach the subject it turns nasty and nothing ever changes, despite promises to have a joint account, him to invest money for me, me to have a pension etc it never happens.

It has come to a head for me really as we're 5 months pregnant with a first, long awaited baby. For the first 4 months he didn't seem interested at all, in fact he was quite difficult to be around and we had a lot of arguments with him saying quite horrific things about me/us. I felt terrible, had to sleep on an ancient mattress in the spare room (he snores) and generally uncared for and unsupported. Since Christmas he has in general been quite nice, despite a couple of nasty arguments.

I am thinking of whether to leave or not because i'm panicking about the future, whether we'll stay together, will I end up a single mum in a foreign country with an unfair custody situation and struggling to make ends meet, or should I go back to the UK and my family and friends. If I stayed abroad and we then divorced, I wouldn't be allowed to move back to the UK with my baby, unless he agreed.

I suppose i'm just wondering if this is really classed as financial abuse? Or just a stupid situation which has developed over the years, unintentionally?

I think i'm a bit of a pushover with him and I hate conflict. He's quite loud and aggressive so I have avoided the issue but enough is enough now, with a baby and our future to consider. I tried to talk about my concerns a few nights ago, he shouted a lot, told me he paid for this house and I should be grateful etc but nothing has changed since financially.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

OP posts:
AdriftAbroad1 · 19/11/2024 09:53

I am SO happy you are divorced. Congratulations!

In 1 or 2 years, you will be too, x1,0000000% and you will see things much more clearly x Proud of you. (Adriftabroad)

anyolddinosaur · 19/11/2024 11:01

Congratulations on starting to make friends and having your sister nearby. Perhaps when she says how much happier you become she'll either give her own partner the shove or at least make him go to counselling. Onwards and upwards!

likespiano · 19/11/2024 11:29

So nice to hear from you, congratulations on everything! Sounds like karma for your ex, no wonder he's being nice. And that's great, as you'll always be co parents. Sorry for your sister, but at least now you can be there for her... Wishing you all the best xx

Loveallaroundyou · 19/11/2024 13:33

Thank you for updating. So pleased you are happier and getting on with your new life with you darling daughter and your family. I wish you all the very best life can bring you .

Liliana2323 · 19/11/2024 23:36

I so far have the 2 horses and 1 dog I left with. He's looking after my other horse (with his), 2 donkeys and 2 cats. Though 1 donkey and 1 cat are kind of half his. One of the donkeys was his wedding gift to me (i asked for her) :(

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Liliana2323 · 19/11/2024 23:42

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the support and advice you've given me. It's been the most upsetting and stressful year but ive tried to make sure it's not rubbed off on my little babe, she doesn't seem aware at all, always smiling and giggling :) my dog has been an amazing friend to us and my family and friends have been so supportive. I still wake up and think omg I can't believe I did that and I hate how I had to go about it but I didn't have much choice really

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fourdoorsdown · 20/11/2024 00:42

see I was replying to old thread !
congrats op & best wishes

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