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DH new outlook on life/sex

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TravellingWife · 10/02/2024 08:41

DH works in the arts. I've always found him to be grounded and level headed despite working with people who definitely aren't. He has been prone to depression and for years he self harmed.
In November he worked away for three weeks with a friend of his who I would describe as a bit of a hippy. He's a nice bloke but has no kids, no long term partner and his own set of issues. I don't think he brings out the best in DH.
When DH arrived back from his trip he declared he had been talking to his friend and his friend had told him that he was going to stop wasting life trying to make others happy. And DH said he was going to do the same. He said he could see his life passing one day at a time and not getting what he wanted in life! This upset me as we have two kids and a pretty nice life with enough money/holidays ect.
So since Nov DH has been pretty much doing his own thing. Booking trips away without inviting us. Cooking food just for himself on occasions. Going boozing on the weekend. Not taking jobs when the money would be helpful as he doesn't fancy it. Spending a sizable amount on new tattoos and clothes.
Obviously this has caused friction but last night he told me that he wanted to be "more free with sex." He said he didn't want to become an old man and not have done the things he wanted to do because he married young. He even suggested at one point he wanted to get into voyeurism! DH has always been pretty vanilla and I would say shy in the bedroom. I asked him to leave and he slept at his mum's last night. He texted me this morning but I haven't replied.
I know it sounds silly but this isn't him. It's like a different person talking. I miss DH so much.

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crazeelala2u · 13/02/2024 13:15

TravellingWife · 10/02/2024 08:41

DH works in the arts. I've always found him to be grounded and level headed despite working with people who definitely aren't. He has been prone to depression and for years he self harmed.
In November he worked away for three weeks with a friend of his who I would describe as a bit of a hippy. He's a nice bloke but has no kids, no long term partner and his own set of issues. I don't think he brings out the best in DH.
When DH arrived back from his trip he declared he had been talking to his friend and his friend had told him that he was going to stop wasting life trying to make others happy. And DH said he was going to do the same. He said he could see his life passing one day at a time and not getting what he wanted in life! This upset me as we have two kids and a pretty nice life with enough money/holidays ect.
So since Nov DH has been pretty much doing his own thing. Booking trips away without inviting us. Cooking food just for himself on occasions. Going boozing on the weekend. Not taking jobs when the money would be helpful as he doesn't fancy it. Spending a sizable amount on new tattoos and clothes.
Obviously this has caused friction but last night he told me that he wanted to be "more free with sex." He said he didn't want to become an old man and not have done the things he wanted to do because he married young. He even suggested at one point he wanted to get into voyeurism! DH has always been pretty vanilla and I would say shy in the bedroom. I asked him to leave and he slept at his mum's last night. He texted me this morning but I haven't replied.
I know it sounds silly but this isn't him. It's like a different person talking. I miss DH so much.

I'm so sorry you're going through this.

Marvourneen · 13/02/2024 14:09

You mentioned that your husband was prone to depression, has he ever had bouts of mania? The sounds almost like a manic episode and maybe he has a tendency towards bipolar disorder. If you can't get him to meet with a psychiatrist, I would maybe try and do a consultation on your own to see what they think of this new development

Duh · 13/02/2024 14:11

@Marvourneen they would diagnose him with Cheating Bastard Syndrome. He has admitted it to the poor OP.

MsDogLady · 13/02/2024 14:18

@TravellingWife, how are you doing?

StringTheory1 · 13/02/2024 18:04

Marvourneen · 13/02/2024 14:09

You mentioned that your husband was prone to depression, has he ever had bouts of mania? The sounds almost like a manic episode and maybe he has a tendency towards bipolar disorder. If you can't get him to meet with a psychiatrist, I would maybe try and do a consultation on your own to see what they think of this new development

Please please please refrain from suggesting this, when there’s no other evidence for this being an episode of mania and the weight of probability lies in favour of him just basically acting like a self-serving, unfaithful prick.

Speaking as someone who has bipolar (and the spectacular, life-wrecking variety), I can say that I find this negatively contributes to the myths and stigma around the condition.

If it walks like a ducks arsehole, and quacks like a ducks arsehole… it probably just is a ducks massive nasty arsehole.

StringTheory1 · 13/02/2024 18:07

Marvourneen · 13/02/2024 14:09

You mentioned that your husband was prone to depression, has he ever had bouts of mania? The sounds almost like a manic episode and maybe he has a tendency towards bipolar disorder. If you can't get him to meet with a psychiatrist, I would maybe try and do a consultation on your own to see what they think of this new development

Also: you can’t just get someone in front of a psychiatrist based on a vague hunch. You have to see the GP, provide genuine evidence and concerns, await a referral (and then only after he’s kept a mood diary), wait for around 6 months, see a member of the team, commence assessment, maybe see a psychiatrist if it was looking like bipolar etc etc.

And your suggestion the OP “do a consultation on her own” is a non-starter…. Things don’t work that way.

And tbh, given he’s been screwing around, even if they did work that way I imagine she’s disinclined to get involved in his fictional MH “struggles”.

Aquamarine1029 · 13/02/2024 18:16

Marvourneen · 13/02/2024 14:09

You mentioned that your husband was prone to depression, has he ever had bouts of mania? The sounds almost like a manic episode and maybe he has a tendency towards bipolar disorder. If you can't get him to meet with a psychiatrist, I would maybe try and do a consultation on your own to see what they think of this new development

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Congrats for placing the burden of her husband's selfishness directly at her feet.

Alwaysgoingforit · 13/02/2024 19:11

Don't you dare blame bipolar! It's hard to get it diagnosed as it is, took me nearly 5 years, having it doesn't make you an arsehole like OP's h. I'm also diagnosed low psychopath it is life changing in more ways than one.

EarthSight · 13/02/2024 20:42

Sorry OP :(

I hope you're reading the words of support on here.

determinedtomakethiswork · 14/02/2024 09:00

That was horribly inevitable. What an absolute tosser coming back talking all that shit when really he had just had sex with another woman. Stay strong now and don't play the pick me dance.

Also have a look at hysterical bonding. my life would've been a lot of easier if I'd known about that. I mistook it for true love.

Newsenmum · 14/02/2024 10:37

TravellingWife · 12/02/2024 06:28

Well last night he admitted he did sleep with someone else. So that's my life fucked.

I’m so sorry you deserve SO MUCH MORE.

I promise you will come through this and look back and realise there were need issues than you thought.

Lavender14 · 14/02/2024 19:59

I'm so sorry op, that's a horrible thing he's done to you and awful that he dragged it out so long instead of just being honest with you. You deserve so much more than this and even though right now I know it feels crushing, you are going to be okay, you will survive this, you will create a new wonderful life for yourself and you will be stronger than ever. Let yourself grieve, take every bit of support you can get and remember this isn't your fault, you didn't deserve this and you get to walk away holding your head high.

Jl2014 · 14/02/2024 21:59

So sorry op 😟

Howlongdoesittake · 15/02/2024 09:23

So sorry OP hope you are OK and have good support from your family and friends. What a dick he is

Laura0076 · 15/02/2024 12:28

Really hope your OK and have support..how awful.

terfinthewild · 16/02/2024 22:03

I'm sorry to read this OP. Just take it one day at a time. Be calm and dignified and I know this almost sounds callous (and I don't mean it to be) but people have buried their children today. Been diagnosed with cancer today. Terrible things that they can't control. Try and be thankful for what you do have and know without a shadow of a doubt that you have the fortitude to get through this and come out the other side a better version of yourself. I have my fingers crossed for you.

StuffLoriThangs · 17/02/2024 11:44

I don’t think advice where examples of people that have it worse off are helpful. The OP is allowed to be upset about upsetting things in their life (as anyone is).

TUCKINGFYP0 · 17/02/2024 18:48

terfinthewild · 16/02/2024 22:03

I'm sorry to read this OP. Just take it one day at a time. Be calm and dignified and I know this almost sounds callous (and I don't mean it to be) but people have buried their children today. Been diagnosed with cancer today. Terrible things that they can't control. Try and be thankful for what you do have and know without a shadow of a doubt that you have the fortitude to get through this and come out the other side a better version of yourself. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Actually it does sound callous . The fact that other people have their own problems doesn’t make the OPs go away.

The Op is not upset about a broken finger nail, her husband has cheated on her and her marriage may be over . That’s objectively a Big Problem and she is allowed to be angry and devastated, as most women would be.

We all know that’s whatever our situation, somoone in the world has it worse. And if that thought helps you personally when you are facing some life crisis, then good for you. But please keep these comments to yourself because when you say it to others, it’s comes across as dismissive and invalidating and that you are trivialising their pain.

Davidbeeton · 17/02/2024 22:26

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EchoFallz · 17/02/2024 22:29

terfinthewild · 16/02/2024 22:03

I'm sorry to read this OP. Just take it one day at a time. Be calm and dignified and I know this almost sounds callous (and I don't mean it to be) but people have buried their children today. Been diagnosed with cancer today. Terrible things that they can't control. Try and be thankful for what you do have and know without a shadow of a doubt that you have the fortitude to get through this and come out the other side a better version of yourself. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Her life has collapsed piss off

ILoveHugeAckman · 17/02/2024 22:36

terfinthewild · 16/02/2024 22:03

I'm sorry to read this OP. Just take it one day at a time. Be calm and dignified and I know this almost sounds callous (and I don't mean it to be) but people have buried their children today. Been diagnosed with cancer today. Terrible things that they can't control. Try and be thankful for what you do have and know without a shadow of a doubt that you have the fortitude to get through this and come out the other side a better version of yourself. I have my fingers crossed for you.

I bet you are the type if someone has a broken leg, to say "Count your blessings that you HAVE a leg to break! Mary down the road had hers amputated! But as I said to her, lucky you having one to amputate! Poor old Jim was born without a leg! But as I said to Jim...."

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Wouldyouguess · 18/02/2024 12:22

terfinthewild · 16/02/2024 22:03

I'm sorry to read this OP. Just take it one day at a time. Be calm and dignified and I know this almost sounds callous (and I don't mean it to be) but people have buried their children today. Been diagnosed with cancer today. Terrible things that they can't control. Try and be thankful for what you do have and know without a shadow of a doubt that you have the fortitude to get through this and come out the other side a better version of yourself. I have my fingers crossed for you.

😂
Be thankful OP that you have a husband who is a cheating shit, some women don't have husbands that could cheat on them, count your blessings 😂

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