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Husband horrible to me and children

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AmberV · 05/02/2024 13:50

Apologies in advance for the long message. Just the tip of the iceberg. My husband has always been demanding, suffocating, overbearing. When I moved in he wanted the toilet roll a certain way, the towels on the hand rail in the bathroom had to be perfectly level. He would always redo them after I did them. The curtains had to be pulled just so and every day he would redo them moaning and tutting. Like a fool I put up with it and thought he’s got ocd for cleanliness, it’s just ‘his way’.
After we had children I packed up work and it got worse he would want the house just so. Whatever I did it felt wrong. Now the children are 8 DS and 10 DD, he is so mean to our son, says he’s trying to toughen him up. When son got frustrated when he was around 4 or 5 if he lost at something or couldn’t do something he would roll on the floor beside himself hysterical upset, my husband would laugh and go and get the phone to record it which infuriated DS more. Last year it got to the point I could take no more, he shouted right in my face saying how pathetic I was in front of the children because I said that son didn’t want to ‘play fight’ anymore as it generally ended with him in tears. He would shout at them practically every day for not hanging up their coat or put their shoes away, when he really loses his temper they cower in the kitchen under the table or go and hide under their bed or under their bed covers. I spoke to doctor as I was a mess, they brought in the children and spoke to them, then reported it as safeguarding issue, they called SS and they came round, DS heard that we might get divorced and went into the kitchen, took a knife and said he was going to kill himself cos he was so upset. He blamed himself for SS getting involved because he had spoke out to the doctor and said what husband was doing. That was a year ago, things improved mildly, we still tread on egg shells, it still feels like he’s got two army recruits rather than children. I hate him. He still does the curtain thing, tells me all what cleaning I’ve missed doing round the house, opens cupboards and says loud enough for me to hear ‘ffs can’t even stack a cupboard, has no one taught you anything ’ same with the dishwasher, always redoes it. His way of attacking my mum for ‘apparently not teaching me anything or how to do things properly.’

Last week DS got to our door from school first and rung bell. Husband deliberately left sons bag at end of path so he had to go and get it, then he let DD in and then pushed in front of DS and took his time taking shoes off to make DS wait, son got infuriated by this and pushed into husband to shove him, then DS got angry and bit husband, husband screamed at him and walloped him round the head, the first time he has ever struck him , DS was beside himself, ran in and curled in a ball on the stairs. DD saw what happened and stood trembling in the hall, I tried to console them, all husband went on about was how he was the injured party. Yes he shouldn’t have bitten him but it was years of pent up rage coming out.

After I spoke to DS, he said ‘I just can’t stop thinking about it, I don’t know how my fathers not in prison’.

I confronted husband upstairs and he’s still raising his voice going I don’t know how you can take his side after what he did. He could not see how mean he had been not letting him in. My daughter heard me talking, him raising his voice and told him what she thought how she lives in fear how she has no safe place to go how she doesn’t feel safe at home. He would not even look at her while she poured her heart out and stared at the telly. This was Friday. Today he is acting liking nothing ever happened. Trying to buy the kids off again, like he does every time he treats them like shit. He said before if I ever filed for divorce he would fight me every step of the way and there’s no way he’d let me get custody.

When he is in a good mood, he’s fun, he takes them places, wouldn’t think twice about taking them away for the weekend, he’s generous with all of us. But he has an evil, mean nasty streak that even odd times when it’s not there you are always on heightened alert waiting for it. I very rarely go out as I don’t feel comfortable leaving them with him. I went out for lunch this week, he got them from school, I had a really nice time, I got in and they were both really upset cos he’d screamed at them. I have no life. My kids have no ‘normal’ life, they both suffer with anxiety, my DD has toileting problems since age 4 even now, they said it was behavioural. My DS has anger issues and throws smashes things when he’s frustrated or upset. They both are erratic and have nightmares , my DD struggles to go to sleep cos that’s when she thinks when lying in bed. To the outside world we are a ‘perfect’ family. Nice home. Holidays. Yet we live in hell.

I am seeking legal advice this week, I can’t do it to kids any longer, thing is they will be devastated as love the ‘nice dad’. Has anyone been through this and come out the other side?

OP posts:
Preggopreggo · 05/02/2024 14:02

Thank god you are finally finding your way out. So much trauma. Yours and your childrens lives sound like a living hell. With a huge amount of therapy for all three of you and completely cutting him out of your lives, they may be able to go on to lead happy lives eventually. You can do it.

Please be careful.

Have you read this thread? https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/698029-Right-listen-up-everybody

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I shall say this only once. Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through. *Every* person deserves to have a relatio...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/698029-Right-listen-up-everybody

ThereIbledit · 05/02/2024 14:05

The important thing is to safeguard your children. You can do this. xxx

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 05/02/2024 14:11

OP please speak to Womens Aid for advice on leaving safely. You and your children deserve better than to live in fear of this man.

This type of abuser is known as the "Drill Sergeant" type
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/2268977-The-Abuser-Profiles?reply=51554096

HappyLittleTreeFriend · 05/02/2024 14:14

Haven’t been through this myself but I’m hoping lots of others who have comment on this thread and lend you some support and advice, reading this made me feel so upset for you and your DC - please do go ahead and get legal advice and leave this man. You need to get your poor children and yourself away from him and start being able to heal from his awful and abusive behaviour. Really feel for you OP, what a horrible situation to be in, but you sound like a loving parent, you can do this for the sake of your DC, be strong for them 💪💪💪

TickingKey46 · 05/02/2024 14:15

What a horrible, spiteful man! This has gone on for far too long, you need to remove your children and yourself from the situation.
It will feel very daunting and scary at the beginning but it can be done. Many many other people have left abusive relationships (counting me).

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/02/2024 14:20

Evil, mean, nasty, violent BULLY

Pretty sure all of what you have described is domestic violence - if it isn't it should be.

Womans Aid - asap. They are there for you.

DemelzaandRoss · 05/02/2024 14:21

Speak to Woman’s Aid.
This relationship is damaging yourself & DC.
You have to get out asap.
The violent may escalate.
Seek help from friends & family.
So sorry for your situation.

Bettyfromlondon · 05/02/2024 14:23

This was so awful to read. Your poor children are being terrorised in their own home. Thank God you are doing something about it. Time is of the essence.

GreyBlackLove · 05/02/2024 14:27

My god, my heart goes out to you and your children. You need to leave, for your sake and theirs.

I've posted this elsewhere, but my younger sibling was distraught when my mum left my father. Now they see it as the best thing she did for us. Funnily enough despite his own custody threats my father didn't bother to see us after she left, it was just another threat to keep her under his control.

Please contact womens aid, record every incident possible with the police and know that getting your kids away from this man is the best gift you can give them.

AmberV · 05/02/2024 14:43

Thanks so much for all your replies. Even as I typed that it’s like it’s happening to someone else. Like a living nightmare. If anyone else told me what I’d said I would think they need their head examined being with them and yet here I still am. Part of me being hopeful that the last time he flares up it will be the last time but it never is. He is bending over backward now putting on the best dad act, makes me sick. I will contact woman’s aid tomorrow. Thanks again

OP posts:
NicholJO · 05/02/2024 14:48

I have been there exactly as you have described everything. I had 5 children I stayed far to long. You can do this but I'm being honest the mental damage. to your children is done now please seek help for them and yourself. Good luck

ParrotCatDog · 05/02/2024 16:14

Please leave this tosser. Your poor children

Jbrown76 · 05/02/2024 16:59

Jesus Christ what have I just read, your poor, poor children. So much trauma and damage. Please 🙏 leave that disgusting abusive man, for the sake of yourself and your children.

Huffalot · 05/02/2024 17:11

This is one of the most upsetting posts I've read.

Your poor kids. If you don't get out soon it'll damage future relations with them. Children NEED to and SHOULD be protected. Be strong OP you can do this xx

MissAtomicBomb1 · 05/02/2024 17:22

I grew up in a household like this, dad had a violent temper used to rant and rave, break things, slam doors, sometimes hit us. Never knew what mood he would be in so we'd tiptoe around him. It was so damaging to my self esteem. I struggle to set boundaries and assert myself now as an adult. Someone raising their voice or slamming a door sends me right back there, my stomach goes into knots and I feel sick.

My mum put up with it as she came from a 'broken home' and was determined that we wouldn't have separated parents. I am still angry at her now for letting my dad inflict his temper and moods on us all.

I know it will be hard but please leave him. Nothing is worse than this. You need to do this for your children xx

Odiebay · 05/02/2024 19:18

If you don't leave you risk your children being taken away from you.

They are being damaged. Damage that will take years to repair.

As for them missing him... Children do not know what is best for them. That's their parents jobs. Your job is to keep them safe first and happy second.

Your son is learning what men do and you daughter is learning what a future relationship might look like. What would you tell them if thier partner did this.

You also deserve better than this. He is a lose cannon.

Userxyd · 05/02/2024 19:37

Good luck OP go to Women's Aid do NOT tell him your plans you have to be extremely careful with how you are with him now.
This can be a trigger point for abusive men and your priority is getting you all safely away from him.
You must keep calm and don't let him know what you're planning. Get the Women's Aid team to advise and protect you - this is their specialism they deal with it day in day out and can warn you about all the tricks he's likely to play.
Wishing you all the love and luck in the world- hope you all get safely away and can start healing xxx

Quitelikeit · 05/02/2024 19:41

You are the only person who can protect your children op.

Please get them away from this monster. Even murderers, rapists and psychopaths are nice some of the time.

EarthSight · 05/02/2024 19:44

I couldn't read all of your post as I was so pissed off on behalf of your children.

when he really loses his temper they cower in the kitchen under the table or go and hide under their bed or under their bed covers

He's a bully, and they will never, ever forget this behaviour. In fact, as they get older and start realising even more how wrong this was, they may resent him more than now and cut contact with him.

His behaviour is actively damaging them now. Please get away from him.

Hatty65 · 05/02/2024 19:47

Get your children out of there urgently. Your son can't understand how his father is not in prison. Your daughter has articulated that she lives in fear and has no safe space.

They have been damaged so badly already. But you must stop it now.

GruffalosGirl · 05/02/2024 20:20

Can you get back in touch with social services? I think they will take the hitting your son round the head pretty seriously, especially along with the other behaviour, as you are all being abused and it is escalating.

I know someone where their child told in school when her father finally got physical after years of similar controlling behaviour, and she got into a lot of initial difficulties with social services as she was seen as not protecting the children as the report didn't come from her, so I would think you need to be speaking to either social services or women's aid as soon as you can, certainly in the next day or so, for advice on how to proceed. Social services may insist he leaves the family home

Fjruejejrnrnrbbbbb222333 · 05/02/2024 20:31

You need to get out right now and be there for your children. He's emotionally bullied you all for years and it's now escalated into physical violence. How long until he kills one of you?

You need to put a plan together asap, it's gone on too long to undo the trauma your children have already suffered but they might struggle less if they see their mum taking action.

Alwaystired2023 · 05/02/2024 20:34

Sounds like my house growing up except my mum never left and I would have loved her to, I really think your doing the right thing getting away from that man and protecting yourself and your children

Big unmumsnetty hugs to you this evening

bombastix · 05/02/2024 20:35

He is a bully and he will hurt all of you much more if you stay. Disgusted by your post

Ladyj84 · 05/02/2024 20:35

I would be removing myself and kids long before I got legal advice. It's what I did with our kids in first marriage. The the violence started with his fists then he stabbed me with a screwdriver, with the help of police and other services I was.oyt within 24 hours with 2 month old babies and that was 13 years ago. A judge ruled he was never to see the children until 18

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