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Husband horrible to me and children

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AmberV · 05/02/2024 13:50

Apologies in advance for the long message. Just the tip of the iceberg. My husband has always been demanding, suffocating, overbearing. When I moved in he wanted the toilet roll a certain way, the towels on the hand rail in the bathroom had to be perfectly level. He would always redo them after I did them. The curtains had to be pulled just so and every day he would redo them moaning and tutting. Like a fool I put up with it and thought he’s got ocd for cleanliness, it’s just ‘his way’.
After we had children I packed up work and it got worse he would want the house just so. Whatever I did it felt wrong. Now the children are 8 DS and 10 DD, he is so mean to our son, says he’s trying to toughen him up. When son got frustrated when he was around 4 or 5 if he lost at something or couldn’t do something he would roll on the floor beside himself hysterical upset, my husband would laugh and go and get the phone to record it which infuriated DS more. Last year it got to the point I could take no more, he shouted right in my face saying how pathetic I was in front of the children because I said that son didn’t want to ‘play fight’ anymore as it generally ended with him in tears. He would shout at them practically every day for not hanging up their coat or put their shoes away, when he really loses his temper they cower in the kitchen under the table or go and hide under their bed or under their bed covers. I spoke to doctor as I was a mess, they brought in the children and spoke to them, then reported it as safeguarding issue, they called SS and they came round, DS heard that we might get divorced and went into the kitchen, took a knife and said he was going to kill himself cos he was so upset. He blamed himself for SS getting involved because he had spoke out to the doctor and said what husband was doing. That was a year ago, things improved mildly, we still tread on egg shells, it still feels like he’s got two army recruits rather than children. I hate him. He still does the curtain thing, tells me all what cleaning I’ve missed doing round the house, opens cupboards and says loud enough for me to hear ‘ffs can’t even stack a cupboard, has no one taught you anything ’ same with the dishwasher, always redoes it. His way of attacking my mum for ‘apparently not teaching me anything or how to do things properly.’

Last week DS got to our door from school first and rung bell. Husband deliberately left sons bag at end of path so he had to go and get it, then he let DD in and then pushed in front of DS and took his time taking shoes off to make DS wait, son got infuriated by this and pushed into husband to shove him, then DS got angry and bit husband, husband screamed at him and walloped him round the head, the first time he has ever struck him , DS was beside himself, ran in and curled in a ball on the stairs. DD saw what happened and stood trembling in the hall, I tried to console them, all husband went on about was how he was the injured party. Yes he shouldn’t have bitten him but it was years of pent up rage coming out.

After I spoke to DS, he said ‘I just can’t stop thinking about it, I don’t know how my fathers not in prison’.

I confronted husband upstairs and he’s still raising his voice going I don’t know how you can take his side after what he did. He could not see how mean he had been not letting him in. My daughter heard me talking, him raising his voice and told him what she thought how she lives in fear how she has no safe place to go how she doesn’t feel safe at home. He would not even look at her while she poured her heart out and stared at the telly. This was Friday. Today he is acting liking nothing ever happened. Trying to buy the kids off again, like he does every time he treats them like shit. He said before if I ever filed for divorce he would fight me every step of the way and there’s no way he’d let me get custody.

When he is in a good mood, he’s fun, he takes them places, wouldn’t think twice about taking them away for the weekend, he’s generous with all of us. But he has an evil, mean nasty streak that even odd times when it’s not there you are always on heightened alert waiting for it. I very rarely go out as I don’t feel comfortable leaving them with him. I went out for lunch this week, he got them from school, I had a really nice time, I got in and they were both really upset cos he’d screamed at them. I have no life. My kids have no ‘normal’ life, they both suffer with anxiety, my DD has toileting problems since age 4 even now, they said it was behavioural. My DS has anger issues and throws smashes things when he’s frustrated or upset. They both are erratic and have nightmares , my DD struggles to go to sleep cos that’s when she thinks when lying in bed. To the outside world we are a ‘perfect’ family. Nice home. Holidays. Yet we live in hell.

I am seeking legal advice this week, I can’t do it to kids any longer, thing is they will be devastated as love the ‘nice dad’. Has anyone been through this and come out the other side?

OP posts:
sausagepastapot · 05/02/2024 20:41

You are 💯 in a domestic abuse relationship. Get your kids and yourself away from this total waste of space.

Great advice n here, call women's aid literally tonight.

Read these words- He will literally, truly, never, ever change. It will never, ever, get better. You HAVE to leave. You can do this. x

Fannyfiggs · 05/02/2024 20:43

I don't have anything to say that's not already been said but keep posting for support. The women of Mumsnet have some really good advice and will keep you on the right path.

Sending you lots of love and strength to get through this.

bombastix · 05/02/2024 20:47

What a man is this - he is nothing. Scaring children and hitting them. You should be scared shitless of him OP because he's telling you to keep in line. You can escape this, thousands of women do every year, and you help your children recover. It is not only possible, it is worth it.

Velvian · 05/02/2024 20:56

Please reach out for help again, police or the DC school or the GP again.

The latest incident needs to be documented and you all need to be away from him.

redastherose · 05/02/2024 21:05

I know it's an old film but have you e be r watched Sleeping with the Enemy! That is precisely what came to my mind when reading your post. He is an evil sadistic bully, filet in touch with Women's Aid. Make a plan and leave as soo as you can. A better life without this awful man awaits you and your dc.

redastherose · 05/02/2024 21:05

Also, he has assaulted your son, tell women's aid and the police.

feelingfree17 · 05/02/2024 21:11

You need to protect your children and you need protection yourself to enable you to leave this monster. Women’s Aid can help you with this. You need to ensure he doesn’t get access to the children once you have left. Can you record his violent behaviour so you have it on record.

Mumofteenandtween · 05/02/2024 21:13

You need to go to the police. Hitting a child on the head is not generally seen as “appropriate punishment” because of the risk of harm.

The rest of your life will be much easier if your husband is convicted of assault.

HebeMumsnet · 05/02/2024 22:37

Evening, OP. We can see you're already going to speak to Women's Aid in the morning, which sounds like a good plan but if you wanted any further links to support there are lots on our Domestic Abuse webguide. https://www.mumsnet.com/i/domestic-violence-webguide

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MumOfTwoLittleOnes24 · 05/02/2024 22:41

OP, you've been brave by taking a first step in writing an account of the true situation and posting it here. It's utterly heartbreaking to read of you and especially your children's abuse by this utter arsehole.

You know what is happening is profoundly wrong. Please, please reach out and get help IRL. Your children need you to do this. There is truly nothing more important than them. Trust in yourself - you're strong enough to free them from this hideous man.

cestlavielife · 05/02/2024 22:42

Plan your exit
Leave safely
and get some psychological support for your dc when you do
Go back to ss and seek support

WeCouldLooseThis · 05/02/2024 22:49

Once you have left consider therepy for you and for the kids. It might help.

Spencer0220 · 05/02/2024 22:51

Oh op, I just wanted to give you a massive hug.

Firstly it's not up to him to allow or refuse custody, if it gets that far it's for a judge.

And from what you have said , especially the assault of your son, he will be very, very unlikely to get custody.

Confused118 · 05/02/2024 22:51

Your life doesn't have to be like this. As adults we learn to accept the differences in people but as children we think all people are like our mum and dad. Sadly your childrens view of what a 'man' is will be formed by this man who doesn't seem to have any appreciation of the harm he's doing to them.

It won't be easy to leave or get him to but please explore your options at least.

Good luck.

AmberV · 05/02/2024 23:17

Thanks for all your support and advice. I truly appreciate it. I will seek help. My DS is so wary of men, he says he thinks all dads are like this, they shout and swear.

We have been so conditioned to this cycle of behaviour, he ticks along being a mediocre arsehole that picks us up on anything most the time, DD not tying her hair in ponytail each time she eats, them chewing their food too loudly even when they’re not, too much ketchup, chair not pushed in right, DD eating her food too slowly, not holding cutlery right we hardly ever eat a family meal together, maybe once a month cos I can see him watching and waiting for them to put a foot wrong so I always got their food first so they could eat in peace otherwise it’s a constant bombardment of criticisms. I’ve missed out on doing so much with them.

Then you get the major flare ups, maybe once a week where he gets scary and really shouts. He justifies his comments saying I’m the parent I'm guiding and teaching them the right way to do things, again having a dig at me as he always says I was never shown the ‘right way’. When SS got involved he had a go at me saying I can’t raise my voice at them now or bring them up how I want to cos you’ll be straight on the phone to SS again. He takes no blame for how he makes us all feel, none at all even to this day. I showed him letter that DD wrote after his last outburst and he goes it’s just hormones, maybe she’s fallen out with her friends. No flicker of any remorse. I’ve secretly taken so many videos of his outbursts so I have a record otherwise he will convince me that wasn’t how it happened

Husband horrible to me and children
OP posts:
Shouldbedoing · 05/02/2024 23:20

Poor kid. Poor you. Stop telling him anything and plan your escape very discreetly. He thinks he owns you.

A happier life is possible for you three.

bombastix · 05/02/2024 23:28

Please leave tomorrow if not now. This man is volatile. His games where he controls you does not mean he will control himself. He is choosing to do this because he enjoys it, and all of his behaviour is the enjoyment of scaring other people who cannot to his mind leave. Remember he enjoys what he does, and is also enjoying you all pretending to be okay with it. For your own sakes, get him out of your lives in a safe way, which involves legal action against him. Good luck.

AmberV · 05/02/2024 23:29

Yes I have seen the film and he is just like that, when I get away or get him out I will make a point of completely messing up the curtains and not having towels at perfect angles just cos I can after 15 years

OP posts:
MMadness · 05/02/2024 23:29

Why didn't you call the police when he hit your son in the head?

Your children are not safe with either of you.

He abuses them and you fail endlessly to protect them. Their whole lives.

LouOver · 05/02/2024 23:39

Your son acting out is learned behaviour, the scariest element that could happen now is if you don't get out and have your children in therapy. When your ds hits puberty starts putting on heigh and muscle he can take his father's lead in how you treat children and women. And your daughter is learning this is acceptable for a relationship.

You need to leave now to not just save your children but their future relationships and children.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/02/2024 23:58

I have returned to say:

  1. make sure your Mumsnet account has a password, you do not want him reading this and realising it is you.
  2. I don't know what Woman's Aid do or say or how they help, but I know they do
  3. However I believe and I may be wrong, but I am sure someone can come along and inform you/me if I am wrong - I understand that you can turn up at a local authority's offices and ask for emergency accommodation due to domestic violence. I believe the Local Authority have a legal duty to help,
  4. Shelter would be able to confirm this. I guess Woman's Aid would confirm this too.
  5. I also understand it doesn't need to be your Local Authority that you turn up at, indeed I personally feel it is better if it is a different Local Authority - for your safety.
Northernsouloldies · 06/02/2024 00:52

I grew up in a dv household and your DD has put it down in writing and he dismisses it as hormones, please get yourself and children out of it. It took me decades to reconcile with what happened during growing up. Please get out because it does damage all involved.

shropshire11 · 06/02/2024 01:04

Heartbreaking to read this letter. Please take action now for the sake of your poor children. I realise that you are in a very tough situation, but every day more of this you are complicit in the damage being done to them.

JadeandGreen · 06/02/2024 01:06

This is heartbreaking. Please get out immediately OP. Flowers

Catoo · 06/02/2024 01:14

This was hard to read OP
I’m glad you’re planning to leave. Although you have waited far too long as you know. The things your children say and write down are heartbreaking. You have to step up for them.
While you make arrangements, please (carefully) call the police next time he’s screaming at you or the DC. Tell them you’re scared he will hit one of you. Tell them he’s hit your son before.
Good luck. Life will be so much better when he’s gone. I hope you can get some counselling for you and DC also.
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