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Husband horrible to me and children

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AmberV · 05/02/2024 13:50

Apologies in advance for the long message. Just the tip of the iceberg. My husband has always been demanding, suffocating, overbearing. When I moved in he wanted the toilet roll a certain way, the towels on the hand rail in the bathroom had to be perfectly level. He would always redo them after I did them. The curtains had to be pulled just so and every day he would redo them moaning and tutting. Like a fool I put up with it and thought he’s got ocd for cleanliness, it’s just ‘his way’.
After we had children I packed up work and it got worse he would want the house just so. Whatever I did it felt wrong. Now the children are 8 DS and 10 DD, he is so mean to our son, says he’s trying to toughen him up. When son got frustrated when he was around 4 or 5 if he lost at something or couldn’t do something he would roll on the floor beside himself hysterical upset, my husband would laugh and go and get the phone to record it which infuriated DS more. Last year it got to the point I could take no more, he shouted right in my face saying how pathetic I was in front of the children because I said that son didn’t want to ‘play fight’ anymore as it generally ended with him in tears. He would shout at them practically every day for not hanging up their coat or put their shoes away, when he really loses his temper they cower in the kitchen under the table or go and hide under their bed or under their bed covers. I spoke to doctor as I was a mess, they brought in the children and spoke to them, then reported it as safeguarding issue, they called SS and they came round, DS heard that we might get divorced and went into the kitchen, took a knife and said he was going to kill himself cos he was so upset. He blamed himself for SS getting involved because he had spoke out to the doctor and said what husband was doing. That was a year ago, things improved mildly, we still tread on egg shells, it still feels like he’s got two army recruits rather than children. I hate him. He still does the curtain thing, tells me all what cleaning I’ve missed doing round the house, opens cupboards and says loud enough for me to hear ‘ffs can’t even stack a cupboard, has no one taught you anything ’ same with the dishwasher, always redoes it. His way of attacking my mum for ‘apparently not teaching me anything or how to do things properly.’

Last week DS got to our door from school first and rung bell. Husband deliberately left sons bag at end of path so he had to go and get it, then he let DD in and then pushed in front of DS and took his time taking shoes off to make DS wait, son got infuriated by this and pushed into husband to shove him, then DS got angry and bit husband, husband screamed at him and walloped him round the head, the first time he has ever struck him , DS was beside himself, ran in and curled in a ball on the stairs. DD saw what happened and stood trembling in the hall, I tried to console them, all husband went on about was how he was the injured party. Yes he shouldn’t have bitten him but it was years of pent up rage coming out.

After I spoke to DS, he said ‘I just can’t stop thinking about it, I don’t know how my fathers not in prison’.

I confronted husband upstairs and he’s still raising his voice going I don’t know how you can take his side after what he did. He could not see how mean he had been not letting him in. My daughter heard me talking, him raising his voice and told him what she thought how she lives in fear how she has no safe place to go how she doesn’t feel safe at home. He would not even look at her while she poured her heart out and stared at the telly. This was Friday. Today he is acting liking nothing ever happened. Trying to buy the kids off again, like he does every time he treats them like shit. He said before if I ever filed for divorce he would fight me every step of the way and there’s no way he’d let me get custody.

When he is in a good mood, he’s fun, he takes them places, wouldn’t think twice about taking them away for the weekend, he’s generous with all of us. But he has an evil, mean nasty streak that even odd times when it’s not there you are always on heightened alert waiting for it. I very rarely go out as I don’t feel comfortable leaving them with him. I went out for lunch this week, he got them from school, I had a really nice time, I got in and they were both really upset cos he’d screamed at them. I have no life. My kids have no ‘normal’ life, they both suffer with anxiety, my DD has toileting problems since age 4 even now, they said it was behavioural. My DS has anger issues and throws smashes things when he’s frustrated or upset. They both are erratic and have nightmares , my DD struggles to go to sleep cos that’s when she thinks when lying in bed. To the outside world we are a ‘perfect’ family. Nice home. Holidays. Yet we live in hell.

I am seeking legal advice this week, I can’t do it to kids any longer, thing is they will be devastated as love the ‘nice dad’. Has anyone been through this and come out the other side?

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Zanatdy · 07/02/2024 05:36

I agree this has gone on too long. You have to protect your children and leave this man. He absolutely will not get custody over you, especially since there’s a record of his previous abuse. This behaviour is very harmful to your children, as you can see they have a lot of pent up rage inside about the way they have been treated. Your son is angry, and your daughter is heartbroken. I’d leave, refuse access and let him take you to court and have social services involved again. His behaviour is damaging to your children and as their mother you have to protect them. Please contact women’s aid as they can help you in leaving him. He’s also abusing you and you need to get this on record to help stop him having access. I guess will his children even want to see him?

Zanatdy · 07/02/2024 05:41

AmberV · 06/02/2024 22:06

Thanks for your messages, I spoke to the school today, spoke to woman’s aid who were useful and gave me a load of numbers, I phoned social services and logged it with them, they are coming to see me tomorrow. No doubt things will progress quickly now they are involved.

Well done OP. This is a great step forward in protecting yourself and your children from him

Bluetrews25 · 07/02/2024 07:35

You're doing the right thing.
Hope you get lots of help.

Best wishes

Preggopreggo · 07/02/2024 08:53

The OP has told me in a private message that she has confronted him asking for a divorce. I have replied saying do not confront him, you are in grave danger. Go to the kid’s school and stay there, they will help you find a safe place.

I really hope this thread is not genuine. If it is, I am worried about @AmberV and her children’s safety

Is there anything we can do? @HebeMumsnet @MNHQ?

Preggopreggo · 07/02/2024 11:03

Anyone?! @AmberV I really hope you are OK. Leaving an abusive relationship can be such a dangerous time. I’m sure you’re following all the advice from SS and Womens Aid

AmberV · 07/02/2024 11:12

I’m here. Children are safe. Just trying to sort all this mess out. Spoke about getting therapy for us today, they are phoning me back. Haven’t heard yet from social services. Safer places have just emailed me back asking for information. Spoke to a solicitor about getting an injunction. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for your support and concern

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matthancockscareer · 07/02/2024 11:13

The note your DD wrote is truly heartbreaking - be strong OP you can do this for you and your children - he deserves a life of misery.

Avatartar · 07/02/2024 11:17

Good luck AmberV you are doing the right thing

cocavino · 07/02/2024 11:22

I have been through this. My daughter and I did a moonlight flit. I did not get SS involved, perhaps to my later detriment as my ex is not seen to be an abuser.

Just wanted to say that you are doing the right thing for you and your children. When I left, everything became better almost immediately just because I was no longer subjected to the abuse.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 07/02/2024 11:26

@Preggopreggo

Hopefully s.s. are there now, as her update said they were visiting today.

And I wonder if she hasn't actually asked him for a divorce - maybe it was something she said as she probably knows from all the replies that she has been getting that she really shouldn't be putting up with his behaviour.

' We ' can only take things written at face value, and believe / hope that she really did speak to the school / contact Woman's Aid and Social Services yesterday.

Right now we don't have any reason to think / believe she hasn't, we can only hope that our replies helped give her that ' kick up the backside ' / confidence / support she needed / needs to start dealing with the situation.

Best outcome is she returns today and updates us, and that positive action is being taken by the organisations she has sought help from.

And that she and her children are safe.

Edited to say - I type far too slowly ! and I see the OP has already returned and updated ! by the time I had submitted my reply.

ParrotCatDog · 07/02/2024 11:39

Wow well done op! Keep the momentum going and keep posting for support. A better life is on the horizon for you and your children ❤️

Spencer0220 · 07/02/2024 12:59

Well done 🕺🏻

KL090 · 07/02/2024 13:42

OP I agree do not confront this man it is not safe for you, just work to get out.

AmberV · 07/02/2024 14:34

Still have not had contact from social services. Have left them a message. Heard back from safer places they are calling me Friday. I’ve felt a bit out there alone without their advice but spoke to a couple of friends today and told them everything and that helped to offload

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Spencer0220 · 07/02/2024 22:39

I hope your friends were very supportive and understanding.

Preggopreggo · 08/02/2024 00:06

That’s fantastic that you’ve been able to offload.

If he kicks off at all, please call 999. You can do a silent request for police by pressing 55 and letting them hear the disturbance. But they are more likely to be able to find your address doing this if you use a landline.

Sorry to hear you’ve been feeling lonely ❤️‍🩹

And make sure that your kids know that absolutely none of this is their fault. If your son expresses again that he can’t be apart from Dad, just validate that feeling.

AmberV · 08/02/2024 22:40

Heard from SS today, they are speaking to him tomorrow and also getting the police to investigate. The school spoke to my DD today about how things were, she wouldn’t say what was said, they are speaking to DS tomorrow and then getting me in. Hearing from safer places tomorrow lunchtime. Got apt with solicitor Monday. One day at a time

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Northernsouloldies · 08/02/2024 22:50

Well done on getting the ball rolling that would was a brave first step. Wishing you and your children a better life.

Fallenangelofthenorth · 08/02/2024 22:53

Well done @AmberV it's taken guts to take back control. You're doing the right thing though and you had no choice but to protect your kids and yourself. Things will get better from now on now You're all safe x

Catoo · 08/02/2024 23:28

Sending hugs OP
💐

B1rd · 09/02/2024 00:28

You truly are sleeping with the enemy.
I wish you all the best with leaving. You do need to leave. Not only for yourself, but more so for your children to be relaxed and calm. I dread to think how they will cope in adult life, if you dont.
I think this tops the stories Ive read on here. Yours is horrific. Please leave this man as soon as you can.

Spencer0220 · 09/02/2024 02:05

Really hope everything keeps going smoothly 🩵

AmberV · 09/02/2024 03:34

I can’t sleep. The solicitor asked me for an account of my life since I met him, luckily I diarised a lot of it. I’ve just been reading it all and seeing the enormity of it. I can’t explain it, when you’re living in it day to day you become conditioned to it. He is truly evil.

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Spencer0220 · 09/02/2024 03:46

Oh honey.

Just think, it'll all be over in the not too distant future.

But in the short term unfortunately it will be painful.

theansweris42 · 09/02/2024 06:32

Keep going OP. You're strong.

Do you have to read everything? Could you submit it to your solicitoor without reading any more? It must be traumatising all over again.

You're doing the right thing. You can be free.

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