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Partner asking me to 'cover up'

676 replies

Hurryupchristmas · 23/01/2024 16:16

I abolutely adore my boyfriend, he is wonderful and treats me so well.

However he can be quite jealous/paranoid in certain situations.
One of which is when I go out with friends he's asked me to wear tops that completely cover my breasts, so no cleavage shows.
I have large boobs and yes they can attract attention from men on nights out, however it's not something I can control nor would I act on now I'm in a relationship.

He is quite adamant I'm not to wear certain tops and wants to see what I'm wearing before I go out. I understand his concerns about men looking at my chest, but feel a bit miffed I can't wear what I want. I dress pretty conservatively but a lot of my tops show the size of my boobs and I can't help that.

I don't know who is in the right to be honest, he says its like him going out showing off his crotch area but I don't think it's a similar comparison 🤔

I don't want to make him annoyed and feel uneasy when I'm out, but at the same time I want to dress up and look nice when I go out with friends. Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Stravaig · 26/01/2024 11:01

I see Mama has joined the chat to rationalise the behaviour of her darling boy.

TheShellBeach · 26/01/2024 11:27

Addicted2Kale · 26/01/2024 04:08

Wow. WOW. I've only read the first page of responses and damn they're toxic. Domestic violence links because he asked her to cover her cleavage??? Yeah, he's insecure. However, he may have been Mr nice guy in the past, kept his feelings to himself and got cheated on. Now he's more honest due to experience and fear.

She certainly shouldn't dump him over this, particularly as he treats her well. Goodness me. Such a toxic community.

Oh FGS.
This man's behaviour demonstrates exactly how controlling men get started, and you're denouncing the lived experience of abused women as "toxic answers"?

Okay then.
Hmm

HollyJJ · 26/01/2024 11:45

Oh TF! I'm so relieved that you're okay!

Thanks so much for getting back to us. Jolly good luck, lovely lady. Xxxxxx

MsPavlichenko · 26/01/2024 12:23

Good to hear! I quickly reread your posts, and noticed you said he could be jealous/paranoid in certain situations which I didn’t pick up on before. So this is not the only time you’ve noticed it? Red flag as you know.

Good luck for tomorrow, and whatever he says/does make sure you go out ! If he is a controller, anything to stop you works, including an argument that leaves you so upset you can’t be bothered. So be aware, and don’t get sucked in. As you plan just tell him you wear what you want, and not up for discussion! If he argues/has sob story re previous partners/calls it off , well you know what he is.

VinegarTrio · 26/01/2024 12:24

The thing is, now he’s planted the seed so you will be anticipating his reactions when you’re choosing clothes.

Watch out for you starting to self-censor: picking the top that gives slightly more coverage from two you like, thinking about whether you can be bothered having another conversation or dealing with his attitude if you wear this strappy top and wouldn’t it just be easier to put this one on itself.

As a PP says: it’s very hard for the boiled frog to know it’s being boiled. It might even move towards the warmer bits of the pot because the other bits are feeling a bit chilly in comparison.

Any man who has decided to openly tell you what he has is a problem. If he’s being this overt about wanting to control what you wear, what parts of his possessive and controlling attitude is he choosing to keep quiet about?

TheShellBeach · 26/01/2024 12:36

Thanks for updating the thread, OP. Good luck for tomorrow.

Madamum18 · 26/01/2024 18:50

SamW98 · 24/01/2024 19:36

Why am I tagged in this post when I didn’t say anything of the sort?

SamW98 I am SO sorry! I can't find the original quote and who posted it. But you commented on that quote as well along the same lines as me and I mistakenly tagged you not the original poster. Flowersl

SamW98 · 26/01/2024 19:26

Madamum18 · 26/01/2024 18:50

SamW98 I am SO sorry! I can't find the original quote and who posted it. But you commented on that quote as well along the same lines as me and I mistakenly tagged you not the original poster. Flowersl

No worries. I read it and thought ‘I never said that’ - confused the life out of me 🤣

Blades2 · 26/01/2024 19:35

Run now, while you still can.

ArnieLinson · 27/01/2024 20:53

As im already in pjs watching tv, waiting to hear what glam night op had

ArabellaScott · 27/01/2024 21:09

IncompleteSenten · 26/01/2024 10:53

Please be mindful that even if he says what he thinks you want to hear in order for you to convince yourself to stay - he is controlling and this can and does escalate.

Familiarise yourself with 'boiling frog'.

If you choose to stay with him that is your right and your decision and I hope and trust nobody on this thread will choose to berate you because they think you are making the wrong choice but please do ensure that you fully understand all the ways in which men like him manipulate and control.

100%, Incomplete.

It can be so very hard to see in the beginning.

I recommend reading this, OP.

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NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 27/01/2024 23:13

@Hurryupchristmas just revisiting the thread in the hope you've had /are having a nice night out?

rainbowstardrops · 28/01/2024 08:55

Did he say anything @Hurryupchristmas? I hope you had a fab night!

IncompleteSenten · 28/01/2024 09:00

Hopefully she had a great night and is sleeping it off.
I hope he didn't give her some manipulative bullshit sob story about how some other woman cheated on him in the past because of the clothes she wore 🎻🎻

T1Dmama · 28/01/2024 10:17

IncompleteSenten · 23/01/2024 16:22

You think men start this shit by punching your teeth out?

They push a little, see if you back down. Then a little more.

So first will be the cover up. Then cover a bit more. Then that style is too much. Then do you really need to go there/do that/ see this person? Then do you need to go out without me? Then your family is trying to split us up, if you loved me you'd cut them out...

One day you open your eyes and you realise your world has been reduced to him alone and everything you do is only with his approval.

I’m afraid @Hurryupchristmas this is correct.
I went out with a man who I thought adored me, he dressed up his insecurities as ‘it’s because I love you/care about you so much!
His started with what I was wearing, then would progress to being vile before I went out / while I was getting ready.. would make me feel like I was dressed like a tart etc…. Made me feel insecure about dressing like that…. Then when I came in would accuse me of being chatted up etc.
and then he started trying to alienate me against my family and friends… one by one he would decide they had done something, he didn’t like something about them or me when I was around them!
comparing showing a bit of cleavage to showing his penis is ridiculous….. men walk around with their chest out and AB’s on show ALL THE TIME! He’s acting like women don’t look at men’s bodies!!
It’s fine for you to go out and look nice, you’re not a nun !! It’s not your responsibility it men want to look at you! He should have enough respect and trust in you that you could walk out in a bikini and he know you wouldn’t betray him!!

Don't let him dictate what you wear….‘it’s the start of controlling manipulative behaviour.

Kittycat37uk · 28/01/2024 18:16

Is anyone else worried that the OP hasn't updated since saying she was going to tell him what is what? I really just hope she is in bed nursing a hangover or something I really do hope she is OK

JenniferBooth · 28/01/2024 18:36

@Hurryupchristmas Posters including myself just want to know if you are OK Not meaning to pester Flowers

Pinkbonbon · 28/01/2024 19:30

I wouldn't be too worried tbh. But the sounds of things he's very early in the abuse process so the worst she'll get from saying no would just be him throwing a bit of a strop. Hopefully.

Unless it escalated into her telling him he's dumped. But even then it would likely be a case of him claiming she's overreacting and leaving but fully expecting she'll call him once she's, 'came to her senses'.

If he really is 'Mr laid back' then he probably won't to from 0-100 violent in an instant. More likely he'll just gaslight her and make her thing she's wrong.

He may even straight up apologise and claim to see her point of view.... for now. Maybe more likely op isn't updating because things seemed to go OK so there's nothing to update

Hurryupchristmas · 28/01/2024 19:54

Ladies I'm absolutely fine I promise! Had a fab time with friends and wore what I want! Will update you properly tomorrow as I've got some work to finish before tomorrow! X

OP posts:
NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 28/01/2024 21:09

Glad you had a good night 🙂

ProtectMotherNature · 28/01/2024 21:19

You go girl! 😊

Damnedidont · 29/01/2024 00:26

Well done!

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Pinkbonbon · 28/01/2024 19:30

I wouldn't be too worried tbh. But the sounds of things he's very early in the abuse process so the worst she'll get from saying no would just be him throwing a bit of a strop. Hopefully.

Unless it escalated into her telling him he's dumped. But even then it would likely be a case of him claiming she's overreacting and leaving but fully expecting she'll call him once she's, 'came to her senses'.

If he really is 'Mr laid back' then he probably won't to from 0-100 violent in an instant. More likely he'll just gaslight her and make her thing she's wrong.

He may even straight up apologise and claim to see her point of view.... for now. Maybe more likely op isn't updating because things seemed to go OK so there's nothing to update

My thoughts exactly

Feelingimpatient · 30/01/2024 13:42

This is one of the most frightening messages I have ever read on MN.
Please along with every.single.reply on here listen to what we are saying.
This is coercive, controlling behaviour and you WILL end up with a man who controls every aspect of your life.
How is his relationship with your friends, your family and your parents?
I literally just want to hug you, pack your bags and walk you out..... 😫

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