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My mum is with a convicted peadophile

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againstmywill · 22/01/2024 13:49

This is long one so please bear with me.
So, I found out 6 months ago that the man my mum has been with for 10 years is a convicted peadophile and she knew. He has had access to my twins since they were born, my mum has helped out with childcare, had them overnight and when I have been away (longest was 6 days). All of this was not allowed as part of his bail conditions.
When I fell pregnant he told the police officers that deal with him that I was pregnant. They told him that if he was to ever see my children that I would need to be told about his past, he told them that he would under no circumstances ever disclose that he was a peadophile to me or my mums family so he was told he was never allowed to see my children, even by accident and if he did, I would have to be told due to safeguarding. My mum was there during this meeting and agreed this and said because I don’t live close (I lived in London at the time which was about an hour/hour and a half drive) she would travel to see me and he would never have contact.
We moved closer to my family when the twins were one.
My twins are now 5 and have had a lot of contact with this man. They have been by themselves with him, stayed overnight in his house (also my mums) and for extended periods of time. They had a relationship with him, they were naked in his garden in the paddling pool, they stayed in the same hotel room as him.
Someone contacted the safeguarding team who knew about him and I got a phone call on a Friday afternoon asking me about who my mum was in a relationship with and then asking me not to let my children see him over the weekend, they would investigate and get back to me. We thought they had got something wrong but I questioned each twin separately to see if there was anything untoward about when being at Nanny’s, asked if they had seen private parts etc. the answer was no. I’ve banged into them about never keeping secrets from me, we use the ‘correct’ vocabulary for our private parts and spoken about how parts of your body are private and for them only. This is the case unless I need to help them (sore/uti/lazy with wiping). So I trust they are unharmed but, then again, they sleep like the living dead so that goes around in my head!
Monday, I hear nothing but I am admitted to hospital with a high temperature, 2 weeks postpartum with singleton, mastitis and a viral infection and needing to be on IV antibiotics. My mum is messaging, seeing if she needs to have my twins but they are with husbands family due to safeguarding call, baby is obviously in with me. Tuesday still nothing so I try to ring, nothing, try different number and get through and leave a message. Don’t hear anything in the afternoon so ring again, person on my case has changed so I ask to speak to someone higher up. Finally get given a number and it’s for a police officer. This is when we know the accusation is serious (other half and I are safeguard trained). Ring police officer and they need permission to share information before can tell us. Two hours later we get the call, it’s usually done face to face but with me being in hospital they said they would rather tell me sooner than later. 15 convictions and convictions read out, I burst into tears after the first one asking how my mum doesn’t know this. This is when I’m told that my mum does know and has know for a long time. 15 fucking convictions and it’s intrafamilial so he had easy access to those children too. I’m in no state to speak so my other half takes the lead and we are asked to make a statement backing up that he has had contact with my children.

My husband made a statement the next day, the police were so grateful and the whole team were gathering evidence as they wanted to get him. We found out more and more about my mum’s involvement and how much she knew. It’s safe to say the police were disgusted by her and weren’t afraid to make that known to my other half!
The next day the whole team turn up at his house and arrest him. My mum finally understands why she hasn’t heard from me from Tuesday afternoon.
He was sentenced before Christmas and isn’t going back to prison but has got a suspended sentence. He LIED for 5 years to the probation team and the specialist team that deals with him. His life doesn’t change. Her life, apart from not seeing me and her grandchildren, doesn’t change. One of my brothers still sees her with his daughter(!?). My other brothers haven’t heard from here ans are waiting for her to contact them, she has assumed they will feel like me. They see it as ‘but nothing happened to your twins’ which I feel isn’t the point!!!

My mum, after we found out a few months ago, married him.

My life is broken. My mum has committed the most heinous crime in my eyes, so I no longer have a mother. Her family haven’t contacted me after she told them that he’s a peadophile. So, with a decision that I did not make, my twins, my newborn and I need to suffer the consequences. My husband is being supportive and is unbelievably angry at my family, my brothers and obviously my mum. They don’t see how bad my mum has been and the danger she put my children in.

At first I lied to my DDs and said that Nanny and —— were on holiday. One twin turned round one morning and told me they knew nanny wasn’t on holiday and asked why they couldn’t see her. I had to tell them Nanny had done something very bad and put them in really bad danger but they’re 5 so they don’t really understand.
How can a mother do this to their child and grandchildren? How can my brothers not understand?
I can’t tell people because I’m so ashamed my mum could do this to us.

OP posts:
thefunnybones · 22/01/2024 13:50

No advice as such but that is very bad of her to do this

glasdee · 22/01/2024 13:53

I am incredibly sorry. This is life changing & devastating for you all.

Youv’e safeguarded your children now which is the most important thing. It might be worth getting therapy, this is really traumatic and you’ll need some help.

Iamdrained94 · 22/01/2024 13:55

That’s absolutely horrendous on your mum & her vile husbands side.

I hope you are all okay? God love you. I can’t ever imagine being in that situation. I don’t even have any advice just sending strength. I’m so sorry you’re going through this…x

SaturdayGiraffe · 22/01/2024 13:57

The level of betrayal is enormous. I could never trust someone who made that decision again.
Your children have you, that’s the main thing.

ButterflyBitch · 22/01/2024 13:57

I’m so sorry that this has happened. I would cut contact with my mum if she ever did something like this but it must hurt like hell. You’re doing the right thing by keeping your children safe. What an utter bastard he is to lie and your mum to for allowing him to lie.

Sodndashitall · 22/01/2024 13:57

Oh my word. You must feel so betrayed in every possible way.
I have no words. I can't fathom why your mum hid this.
So just a handhold OP

purplecorkheart · 22/01/2024 13:58

I am so sorry what you have been through it horrific

Seasidesusy · 22/01/2024 13:58

I agree with PP about considering therapy. You’ve been through (and are going through) a lot, plus you’ve not long had a third child - be kind to yourself.
What your mum did is hideous. She knowingly put your babies at risk time and time again.
I don’t know how you’ll get over this but at least your children are now safe.

Peridot1 · 22/01/2024 13:58

Wow. I can’t imagine what you are going through and what is going around your head. I would have to confront her. What on Earth was she thinking?

DrunkenElephant · 22/01/2024 13:59

15 convictions? What an earth was your mother thinking?!

I’m so sorry you are going through this OP, you must be devastated. The shame isn’t yours though, so if you want to lean on people in RL for support please do so x

lanza11 · 22/01/2024 14:00

What is wrong with your family ???? Omg !!!! Your brothers don’t mind a convicted pedophile, your mums happy to marry him, everyone lying ! I’m stunned utterly stunned, where I live this vile human would have been disposed of and no woman marrying him. Your brothers astound me, no normal man would be ok with this.

if I were you I’d keep my children well away from your entire family. What weird god awful people. I’d be sick and ill at the thought of this beast near my children. Your mothers a total disgrace I have no words.

Big hugs to you I cannot imagine how you just feel, I’d need medicated I’d loose my mind.

NoCloudsAllowed · 22/01/2024 14:01

I'd be very upset with her too.

However, I'd want to know what the nature of his offence was. Not saying it's ok, but someone convicted for sharing images of 15 year olds is a different kind of threat than someone whose offence involved young children.

Paedophiles are often expert manipulators, they groom adults as well as kids. That's how they get away with it. Your mum wouldn't be the first to be completely taken in.

whereaw · 22/01/2024 14:01

I agree with therapy, talking to someone who can help you process this.
It's completely unforgivable. I cannot get my head around women like your mum, and I've heard of quite a few. To put a man before your own grandchildren. You can never trust her.
I'm so sorry you are going through this. You have done everything you can do and you have to know that and move on as best you can. But betrayal like this is not something many of us can even comprehend. It will take a lifetime to unpick it and you will never get there, so I think you'll have to find a way to move on without her in your life as best you can, trying to forget the past and focusing on the now and everything you can control.
Hugs to you, your husband and children.

Revelwithacause · 22/01/2024 14:02

How sad and awful for you all OP. Of course you are right to never see them again. If I was you I would get some therapy on how to deal with your own emotions and how to (age appropriately) answer the questions your twins will have now and as they grow up.

Soubriquet · 22/01/2024 14:04

I would be disgusted and betrayed too.

First one would be that she was with a paedophile in the first place.

Second one would be the fact she actually exposed her two grandchildren to said paedophile.

I bet she hasn’t even apologised either which is another tick in my box of betrayal.

FortofPud · 22/01/2024 14:04

What was she thinking?! Has your mum had a history of abuse herself? Because that is an incredibly shocking set of decisions on her part and makes me wonder if she has been conditioned at some point to sweep danger/abuse under the carpet. I'm so sorry this has happened to your familyFlowers

SaladDays2024 · 22/01/2024 14:05

Id think you, your husband and the twins all need therapy separately.
How can you be sure nothing happened?!
You can't rely on asking your kids it needs to be someone neutral and trained.

Your brother who still takes his daughter around the pedo and your mum needs reporting to social services.
You must tell everyone who he is and what he has done that includes neighbours.

RobinEllacotStrike · 22/01/2024 14:05

oh no, I am so sorry @againstmywill

My Mum had a relationship with a paedophile when I was 13. He was interested in boys, and there was no physical abuse towards me or my siblings, but he groomed our whole family and used us to access children - mostly my brothers friends.

My Mum knew. He had previous convictions and subsequent convictions.

Before I even knew what a paedophile was I hated this man - he was 100% creep. Nothing likeable about him. Totally played my idiot mother.

It decimated my teens, my family life, my connection to home - everything. As I wasn't abused I've never been counted in a statistic even - but this really very negatively affected my life. Mostly because my parents totally disreagarded us. I later found out my father also knew the history of the man who his X moved in to live with his kids - he did nothing about it. Another betrayal..

Thankfully this was all before I had kids myself.

Very different circumstances to you, but I want to let you know I can feel your shock, disgust & upset.

My relationship with my mother never recovered. I don't see her much now. When I do she is likley to updte me with cheery news like "oh DICKHEAD PAEDOPHILE popped in the other day on his way through town"
I can't even for the life of me think why she would say something like this to me?
Its unfathomable a huge betrayal, and I think she must be seriously mentally unwell to even think it would be OK to mention him to me. Its like she thinks our utterly shit relationship is normal and not the direct result of her relationship with this man.

Anyway that was all decades ago. I've had lots of therapy which has helped. I live on the other side of the world which helps.

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

toomanyleggings · 22/01/2024 14:08

The level of desperation that some women have to be with a man of any calibre at any cost astounds me. I am really sorry. All you can do is safeguard your little ones. She’s made her loyalties clear.

Gert12 · 22/01/2024 14:10

The charity Family Matters, part of Hope After Harm supports families in your situation. You can call or email as a self referral . Stay strong.

RolyPolyFishHead · 22/01/2024 14:11

Well done for cutting all contact, women like your Mother are well on their way to being as bad as the abusers. Not sure how it works but it needs to be reported that your brother still takes his children round there.

You did completely the right thing.

Clarebelle878 · 22/01/2024 14:11

JFC. What a terrible shock this must be, the betrayal is like a sucker punch. I used to have to deal with sex offenders as part of my job and they were on the whole incredibly manipulative and sly. I am so sorry x

RobinEllacotStrike · 22/01/2024 14:11

The level of desperation that some women have to be with a man of any calibre at any cost astounds me.
Yes the low self esteem + desperate for male attention combo is very very dangerous

TheUsualChaos · 22/01/2024 14:11

I'm sorry I have no answers to the questions at the end of your post. This is just unimaginable and I feel so sorry for you. You have done the right thing by your DC as painful as that is and I think all you can focus on is the comfort that now they are safe. You are absolutely right that it's not the point that nothing has happened to the twins. That doesn't mean it wouldn't have in the future. He must never be near them again. I agree on seeking therapy and advice on how to guide yourself and your DD's through this.

2024GarlicCloves · 22/01/2024 14:12

I'm so sorry to hear this. You must feel your world's turned inside-out and while you've got so much going on, too.

It's a lot to process; I agree that bashing it out in therapy would be a good idea. Glad you've got a sane husband and helpful in-laws!

Hope your infection's sorted and you're able to enjoy your new baby.

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