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Social services called to my home

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ea4843 · 06/01/2024 21:31

Looking for a little reassurance, please be kind.

I have a 2yr old daughter, my own business, a beautiful home, I'm educated and we have a lovely life. My 2yr old is the happiest, brightest child. We are so blessed.
I've been in a relationship for just over a year now with a chap I was friends with for a long time (we belong to the same friendship group) However, he isn't my daughters biological father.
In the middle of December it was a friend of mines birthday and we'd had a lot to drink - I mean, a lot! I was having a once in a blue moon night off from parenting and letting my hair down and having a ruddy good time! It was great. When I eventually made it back to our home I'd decided after being in the house for a short time, that I wanted to go back out again. My partner didn't agree. I think he'd probably thought I was too drunk and being silly and needed my bed.
To cut a long story short, the night ended with him dragging me up the stairs and for some reason (probably frustratrafion for the situation) pinned me on my bed and shouted in my face. It was in this moment that I scratched his chest. I remember feeling terrified and to be honest, quite triggered.
To my shame and embarrassment, my daughter was home when this had happened. He was babysitting while I was out. She had been sleeping and was, up until that point, undisturbed.
My next door neighbour had called the police and when they arrived I was absolutely intoxicated, triggered, obviously couldn't regulate my own emotions and was arrested - and rightly so! How ridiculous of me. I am mortified and ashamed, let that be known.
I was arrested on a domestic abuse charge. So my partner had, a few days later, filed a report to state what his actions had been and what it was that had lead to me scratch him in the first place. So he too, has now been charged with domestic assault.
I've never been arrested or in trouble with anyone before and I've certainly never been involved in a situation like this before.
Although my partner and I haven't really had any contact since this situation, we've both agreed not to press charges, but the police are pushing for them anyway.
I've received a letter today with a social services appointment to visit my home with my daughter in a few days and I'm absolutely terrified!
The police had advised me that due to the nature of the incident and the fact that my daughter was in our home when it had happened, that they would have to inform them.
As I've said, I've never been involved in anything like this before and I just don't know what to expect. We are not this type of family, we don't live this way. This is not a reflection of me as a parent or an adult. I'd had too much wine with my dinner and had reacted based on my partners inappropriate behaviour towards me.
And to be clear, this has never happened before. My partner does have BPD and that shouldn't be held against him. His reaction towards me was wildly inappropriate and he is now seeking help for this. Although that isn't my main concern for now and I'm not even sure I can go forward with the relationship after this, I'm just filling in some gaps.
I'm just unsure of what to expect with a social worker visit. It's worrying and I'm so embarrassed and utterly ashamed of myself by the whole escapade.

Any kind advice is welcome,
Thanks in advance.

OP posts:
LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 07/01/2024 00:36

You are obviously full of regret. That’s healthy and it will help you when you speak to the Social worker to express that. Do not make excuses.

You have asked for kind advice and you deserve that. But aligned with that, you do deserve frankness.

The 3 things that stand out for me are firstly you seem not as concerned as you should be about the effect of this violent incident on your daughter. For neighbours to call police and for the police to make an arrest, the situation was obviously out with control. This would have been terrifying for your daughter. You have not sufficiently acknowledged that.

The second is in respect of your daughter you said “we are blessed” - do mean you and the partner with whom you had the fight? You have compromised your daughter’s welfare by pursuing this relationship. Do not defend that choice. Or him.

The third thing is your comment that “everyone deserves a night off from parenting”. That’s not true. Of course it’s nice if a night off can be achieved. But your child’s welfare is paramount and her welfare may not actually stretch to you having a night off; not if that means she is exposed to domestic abuse. It’s not a given that we get nights off once we are parents. That makes you sound immature. Or spoilt. Not saying you are. But don’t say that to the social worker. The only time we get a night off is if the arrangements we have put in place are watertight. Yours weren’t and they put your daughter at risk of harm. You really need to acknowledge that.

My advice is that you need to be clear the relationship is over and express that without demur to the social worker.

Best of luck. You obviously have had a nasty shock. You can move on from this. But not without some adjustment in your view.

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:37

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:33

I would imagine she was awoken when her mum came in drunk and then insisted on going out again to drink even more when she had clearly had enough I can't imagine she was quiet about it

Imagine all you want, but that is not what she said happened.

To cut a long story short, the night ended with him dragging me up the stairs and for some reason (probably frustratrafion for the situation) pinned me on my bed and shouted in my face. It was in this moment that I scratched his chest. I remember feeling terrified and to be honest, quite triggered.
To my shame and embarrassment, my daughter was home when this had happened. He was babysitting while I was out. She had been sleeping and was, up until that point, undisturbed.

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:37

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:34

I am not against social services being called. If I were the neighbour I would have done the exact same thing. I would be concerned as well.

But this isn't a pattern. It's the first time it's happened. You are blowing this way out of proportion with your level of judgment. The fact that you aren't concerned for OP but only the child, I do have a problem with. You may well have been the child growing up in a DV environment, this child hasn't been.

It seems a big incident to be a one off it may be the 1st time the police were involved but I doubt they went from peaceful bliss to that overnight

OhGoodie · 07/01/2024 00:39

ea4843 · 06/01/2024 21:53

I'm unsure how to even respond to this? I'm not minimising my actions. I've very much owned them. Like I've said I'm absolutely mortified and embarrased.

So you’re now sober? You’ve blamed alcohol an awful lot so I assume you are now teetotal?

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:39

The OP is not responsible for how her partner reacted, nor is she responsible for not predicting that he was going to do what he did. If you are saying that she is responsible for that, you are victim blaming. End of.

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:39

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:37

Imagine all you want, but that is not what she said happened.

To cut a long story short, the night ended with him dragging me up the stairs and for some reason (probably frustratrafion for the situation) pinned me on my bed and shouted in my face. It was in this moment that I scratched his chest. I remember feeling terrified and to be honest, quite triggered.
To my shame and embarrassment, my daughter was home when this had happened. He was babysitting while I was out. She had been sleeping and was, up until that point, undisturbed.

Have you ever heard the saying every story has 3 sides

Chronious1 · 07/01/2024 00:39

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Zone2NorthLondon · 07/01/2024 00:39

Okaaaay · 07/01/2024 00:15

The judgement on this thread is unreal.

OP, what goes on behind closed doors is unbelievable in both the numbers of ‘respectable’ people who do/experience bad things and the extent of some of the stuff that goes on. You’re not the first and won’t be the last to make this sort of mistake. You’ve been irresponsible for sure, but just sort it out from here and creat a life where it never can happen again - which means never getting that drunk again and probably not continuing that relationship.

Be honest with SS - they will be interested in how you form relationships, who cares for your child, your relationship with your partner and with alcohol. It’s possible some supervision will continue but unlikely to be anything more. Make safeguarding your child from here your absolute priority from here.

Unreal is your ill advised platitude's you’re not the first blah blah. Others posting we have all been there soothing comments. Utter nonsense. Minimising. Potentially platitudes to soothe, but nonetheless stupid and ill advised.
This is serious. It’s a police and SS matter
Police contact It will show up,on an enhanced DBS if she need one for work or study.

Going forward @ea4843 needs to demonstrate how she’ll protect her daughter and that she can maintain safety & stability. that her home is safe and stable. That she won’t pose a risk or exhibit inpaired judgement by being intoxicated.That her abusive ex is an ex and not present

BlackPanther75 · 07/01/2024 00:40

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/01/2024 21:38

You'll need to tell them why it happed, why it won't happen again and that you know how harmful and problematic it is.

I'd also say that leaving a man who isn't family babysitting a 2 yo alone, while you get rat-arsed (and you might think his BPD isn't relevant but it might be) is a very poor decision. Unrelated but known men are the single biggest preventable risk to your child in your home. Alone, only a year relationship, known psychological issues, you don't have capacity, and he turned violent. If I was your SW I'd want you to have him move out. And stop drinking totally.

What happened in his past relationships?

Please share your source to back the statement that unrelated men are the greatest risk to children

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:40

Every story does have 3 sides. My point is to not make up a very negative bad third side.

Ejismyf · 07/01/2024 00:41

Had you been taking cocaine and decided you wanted to go back out for another line.

GrumpyMiddleAgedCow · 07/01/2024 00:41

I don’t really have anything to say others haven’t. I get everyone makes mistakes, I’ve been with DH for more time than I would have got for murder 😂 have we both on the odd occasion had one more drink than we should have when out with pals…YES…did we both still pick each other up like you’re a tit…YES

however, was there ever an incident a neighbour could call the police…absolutely no! If a neighbour notices it’s leagues above having one too many.

Additional info: we don’t have kids and I’m sure if we did… one too many would be much less likely, but still if we did would never be to the stage a neighbour (or child) would catch onto

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:42

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:40

Every story does have 3 sides. My point is to not make up a very negative bad third side.

And my point is don't be so naive to believe everything op is saying when she was not only arrested but also charged with domestic violence

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:44

My point is to give the benefit of the doubt unless you know otherwise. You're doing the exact same thing in reverse.

AllIsWellish · 07/01/2024 00:44

It's ops house, if she wasn't so out of control when the police got there they wouldn't have arrested her. They'd have asked her what happend and if she wanted him removing from her home

BlackPanther75 · 07/01/2024 00:44

Firefly2009 · 06/01/2024 23:05

I think we must be missing something about what happened when the police were called because if you just scratched his chest, why are you being done for domestic assault? Maybe I'm naive or not up to date with things but I've been in a domestic abuse situation and there's no way that defending myself /reacting that way would have got me done for any kind of crime.

And ffs with all the judgment on here though. OP, on the face of your post, you got very drunk, you're with a man with problems but you'll hopefully ditch him and you can go back to normal. Perhaps with a different babysitter next time, and with more frequent breaks for yourself, you will be less inclined to get drunk and end up distressed. Say what you need to say to SS and look forwards.

I’m pretty sure if a man stretched his nails and left marks across a woman’s chest you would consider that assault

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Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:46

BlackPanther75 · 07/01/2024 00:44

I’m pretty sure if a man stretched his nails and left marks across a woman’s chest you would consider that assault

No, I would consider it self defence if she had him pinned to the bed by the neck and was shouting in his face.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2024 00:46

BlackPanther75 · 07/01/2024 00:40

Please share your source to back the statement that unrelated men are the greatest risk to children

Preventable risk. And do your own Googling. I'm not your mum.

Also, even if it's only the 8 times or 10 times raised risk of maltreatment death, do you need it to be the worst? What if it's only the second worse? What level of increase of maltreatment death and sexual abuse is acceptable?

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/01/2024 00:48

Oh god, just saw the other comment by @BlackPanther75

Do we have an MRA? Urg.

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:49

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:44

My point is to give the benefit of the doubt unless you know otherwise. You're doing the exact same thing in reverse.

I'm not the one threatening to report any post that doesn't agree with me. That was you

AllIsWellish · 07/01/2024 00:49

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:46

No, I would consider it self defence if she had him pinned to the bed by the neck and was shouting in his face.

Who was pinned by the neck?

OhGoodie · 07/01/2024 00:49

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 07/01/2024 00:36

You are obviously full of regret. That’s healthy and it will help you when you speak to the Social worker to express that. Do not make excuses.

You have asked for kind advice and you deserve that. But aligned with that, you do deserve frankness.

The 3 things that stand out for me are firstly you seem not as concerned as you should be about the effect of this violent incident on your daughter. For neighbours to call police and for the police to make an arrest, the situation was obviously out with control. This would have been terrifying for your daughter. You have not sufficiently acknowledged that.

The second is in respect of your daughter you said “we are blessed” - do mean you and the partner with whom you had the fight? You have compromised your daughter’s welfare by pursuing this relationship. Do not defend that choice. Or him.

The third thing is your comment that “everyone deserves a night off from parenting”. That’s not true. Of course it’s nice if a night off can be achieved. But your child’s welfare is paramount and her welfare may not actually stretch to you having a night off; not if that means she is exposed to domestic abuse. It’s not a given that we get nights off once we are parents. That makes you sound immature. Or spoilt. Not saying you are. But don’t say that to the social worker. The only time we get a night off is if the arrangements we have put in place are watertight. Yours weren’t and they put your daughter at risk of harm. You really need to acknowledge that.

My advice is that you need to be clear the relationship is over and express that without demur to the social worker.

Best of luck. You obviously have had a nasty shock. You can move on from this. But not without some adjustment in your view.

All of this.
I would also add (and I may be pessimistic due to my line of work) that a “I’ve known him ten years, so he’s totally trustworthy” is utter bullshit. This incident shows this. You were drunk (absolutely not an excuse, but impaired judgement), but he was sober, aware your daughter was there and behaved like this.
You say your behaviour led to his reaction. So a two year old doesn’t ever throw tantrums, lash out or push boundaries the way you did? And you really think he’s okay to be left alone with your child. You still refer to him as though you are still together.
For this reason you don’t deserve your daughter.
You should be stopping all alcohol (you can’t be trusted) and you should be kicking this guy to the kerb (he can’t be trusted), and there are no two ways about it. This is the minimum you should be doing to prove you are a fit mother after this atrocious incident.

Zone2NorthLondon · 07/01/2024 00:53

@BlackPanther75 the introduction of a male partner who isn’t the bio dad is well documented significant risk to a child. it’s well documented in CP and sadly is a theme in serious case reviews

Firefly2009 · 07/01/2024 00:54

Differentstarts · 07/01/2024 00:49

I'm not the one threatening to report any post that doesn't agree with me. That was you

I am not doing any such thing. I have reported this thread for the victim blaming of a DV victim. The original post, whether it is missing anything or not, makes it clear that the partner attacked her, dragged her up flight of stairs and pinned her to the bed whilst shouting in her face.

It may or may not have happened that way. We don't know. But what isn't okay, is to fill in the blanks with supposition and judgment when what has been described was clearly a physical attack on the OP.

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