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Husband or Parents .... Head is spinning!

464 replies

Cappucino777 · 27/12/2023 22:17

Been married for a few years, I am an only child so you can appreciate the closeness of my parents and their impact in my life. So fastforward to these past few weeks my parents are getting fed up of my husbands lack of communication with them, he never calls either my mum or dad or asks how they are etc. They feel shortchanged and not really valued by him. They have made numerous comments to me about this and have argued with me huge arguments regarding this. I feel stuck in the middle, I am sick of living like this with someone my parents seem to not approve of. I'm stuck because now we have a child it is not exactly easy to just end things. I don't know what to do. I am literally depressed and miserable about all this. They just can't seem to stomach anything about him. I truly am lost :/
Some of their comments are legitimate but he's changing some stuff about him but still this rubbish is lingering and the headache I get from my parents is getting out of hand.

OP posts:
Sugarfree23 · 28/12/2023 22:46

@Cappucino777
I hope you are OK. And not too upset at the criticism thrown at you and the unrealistic expectations of your parents.
I hope you are still reading along. You will get a lot of help from the wise heads of MN if you stick around.

Something to look up is FOG, Fear Obligation Guilt.
Take care of yourself and your marriage.

TheaBrandt · 28/12/2023 23:04

I think the op skipped a developmental stage. I know teen stroppiness and rebellion isn’t great at the time but it is actually healthy and necessary if this weird enmeshment and control with your parents is the alternative.

angsanana · 28/12/2023 23:43

"I suffer from an issue which is I seek my parents approval in everything I do "

Stop being such a victim. You aren't suffering from an issue, you seek their approval because you won't stand up to them. They're nasty, you're weak. Sort it out before your husband sees the light and leaves.

Sugarfree23 · 29/12/2023 00:15

@TheaBrandt possibly but it also sounds like her parents have always been controlling of her.

Her parents are now trying to control her DH and her ILs (WTF) expecting them to phone them.
I mean really phones work both ways if the parents really want to speak to SIL or his parents they could phone them directly!!!

Op does need to cut the apron strings but it's going to be a whole lot easier said than done.
As someone else said pulling back from the number of phone calls would be a good start.

I think professional councilling or advice might be useful because I'm also wondering if there is some sort of 'closed breathern' type church involved.

So lots of FOG!
I do hope Op comes back because this thread could be the best thing she ever did for both her and her own family unit. I'm sure she was expecting to be told it was normal for people to call their ILs for the heck of it.

Illstartexercisingtomorrow · 29/12/2023 00:40

This is going to end badly for you OP if you do not put firm boundaries in place with your parents.

Your marriage won’t survive this controlling behaviour, neither will your mental health.

Ask yourself - do you really want to lose your husband and be left with your parents, constantly jumping however high they demand?

HoppingPavlova · 29/12/2023 00:40

.I get from most of you that my parents are being unreasonable in what they're thinking. I have a hard time telling them they are wrong or I disagree etc. Unfortunately, I tend to find it easier to just get my husband to do what will make things calm even if it means we argue. In my head it is easier to argue with him than it is my parents

Your DH should not put up with this. If he had any sense he would run far and fast.

Your parents are absolutely batshit. Cracking it as the in-laws don’t contact them? Why would they? I don’t know anyone whose in-laws speak to their parents except at rare special events such as wedding, milestone birthday etc. Certainly not on the phone for a chat. The bit about your DH not being able to go away with you all as he hadn’t chatted to them prior, that’s insane.

Contacting them multiple times a day on the phone, focus on your young child and core family, not spending all that time on the phone to your parents! Also no need to visit weekly and stay over. If you live close enough to visit so often, you don’t need to stay over. You are prioritising your relationship with your parents over that if your relationship with your child and your DH, and you are choosing this!

Justia · 29/12/2023 06:43
  1. You sound like you have postnatal depression - seek treatment from your gp/self refer for counselling (gp can advise where)
  2. When you get married, and especially when you have a child, you are forming your own family. You need to present a United front. Visit your parents as a family. Rebuke your mother everytime she criticises your husband - “that is my husband, please be respectful, do not speak about him like that”, if it continues then do not speak to her until she changes her ways.
  3. It was overbearing and inappropriate for your mother to be in the house post birth and he was right to tell her to leave. You are an adult and have to learn to cope with your own baby, without mollycoddling and interfering in your family from her.
  4. I know you are an only child and your parents seem like the centre of your universe, but in all likelihood you have about 10-15 years of them being around, or mentally capable anyway, and then you are left with the consequences of trying to please them for life…. Don’t destroy your marriage and family over them. You need to wake up, be an adult and put your own family first - it is about them now and nurturing that. You’re parents take second place.
Whenthebirdssing · 29/12/2023 07:40

Cappucino777 · 28/12/2023 13:46

My son definately. Poor thing is only 5 months old and he's seen me cry more than anything else :/

This broke my heart to read. It’s hard enough that first year with a new baby without the crap your parents are piling on you.

You do not owe your parents anything. They chose to create you.

You have now chosen to create a child and that is your main priority. You sound like you want the best for your son.

Your parents demands and treatment of you are NOT reasonable or ok. They are adults and capable of sorting things out for themselves. They will continue to treat you like this if YOU don’t do something different. You will be ground down by it further if YOU don’t do something different. What that is, is something you need to figure out.

My parents live very close by and I can still go a week or more without speaking to them. When I had my children it was them that helped and supported me not me them.

I very firmly, and with kindness, urge you to get some counselling. Go see your GP and tell them that you are crying all the time. Talk to a counsellor to unpick this enmeshed (overly involved) relationship you have with your parents and how to change it.

This is a summary of their behaviour that you have mentioned;

  • They make unreasonable demands on you when you are a struggling new mum.
  • They put you down and blame you for things, eroding your self worth and self esteem.
  • They create issues between you and your DH by blaming him or putting him down.

They are making you miserable.
They are ‘toxic’ to you and toxic relationships are very bad for you and are bad for your relationship with your son and therefore his future wellbeing. You have to work on this for him, no matter how hard it is.

Your son and any future children desperatly need you to break this cycle and look after your own well-being. They will thrive if you do. They will need you and your DH to provide a calm and stable atmosphere.

I’ll post a link below to a thread that is very supportive to adult children of toxic and abusive parents. Lots of people have reduced or ceased contact with toxic parents.

Whilst you are working out how to address this toxic situation this is how you might want to look after your own well-being.

Look after your mind and body as well as you can so that it stands the best chance of coping with the contact you have (keep hydrated, eat lots of nutritious food, exercise a bit everyday, get out in nature, increase the time you spend with people that make you feel good).

When you feel that you have to be in touch with your parents (there is no law or rule that you do) set yourself up beforehand. Wear a piece of jewellery that can act as a reminder that you are an adult and what they think of you doesn’t matter.

Every time they say something hurtful say ‘well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it’ and move on. Labelling their words in this way might help to give the words less power. They are just the thoughts that their brains send them that they then don’t filter and have no bearing on who you and your husband are. They are no facts.

After you have seen them, do things that make you feel good. Phone a friend, hug your DH or put on some music you love.

You will never make them happy. You will never be good enough for them. You are good enough, of course, but they are projecting their own unhappiness onto you, so until they address that need for themselves, nothing you do will be good enough - so quit trying.

Sending you a very big unmumsnetty hug. I’ll post the link to the really supportive thread below. 💐

Sugarfree23 · 29/12/2023 08:01

@Cappucino777
Why do you feel you need to stay over at their house? They can't live that far from you that makes a normal 2-3 hour visit impossible.

You possibly do have PND but it's probably driven by them being unreasonable and them putting you and your DH down and their unreasonable demands.

Not having your own house probably isn't helping either. Are your parents jealous that you are with the ILs rather than them?

There is just so much here to unpick. I think you should seek help from your Health Visitor. They are there to look after you as much as they are your baby.

Sugarfree23 · 29/12/2023 10:05

@Cappucino777 how are you today?
Hoping you are OK.

Pipsquiggle · 29/12/2023 10:14

Are there cultural differences in this family dynamic? Are your parents from a different culture to your DH?

Ukrainebaby23 · 31/12/2023 07:14

Defo sounds like you should be assessed for PND, and it must sound horrid that MNers are calling your parents toxic when you are so close to them, but really seek some help and you'll see they are not behaving reasonably.

pineapplesundae · 31/12/2023 07:50

Tell your parents to leave your husband alone and then change the subject.

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