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Is anyone else still in disbelief that another woman is living your life?

232 replies

autumnmarshmallows · 18/10/2023 09:00

Usual scenario. Husband of 22 years had an affair and got OW pregnant within three months of being with her (we already had adult children).
Both of them are bastards in my opinion but even 5 years on, I still have days when I can't wrap my head around this other woman living the life that was originally mine. She seems to want for nothing and doesn't work (small kid at home half the time), drives a brand new car, goes on holidays and is a bitch towards our adult kids.
I'd never want to be with him again but it does occasionally piss me right off . I'm wondering if this feeling with ever dissipate?

OP posts:
MikeRafone · 18/10/2023 13:42

Sundance03 · 18/10/2023 13:35

Omg I think you should count yourself as the lucky one. Grown up children.... Freedom... No arsehole ex-husband. Just think you are free to live your life.

I know of one man who is wishing for his old life back - OW became wife, wanted children whilst his were grown up - its not the life he wants - just the one his dick choose for him

iloveeverykindofcat · 18/10/2023 13:42

She can't be comfortable though. If they'll cheat with you, they'll cheat on you, and everyone knows it really.

ohdamnitjanet · 18/10/2023 13:45

autumnmarshmallows · 18/10/2023 09:56

Thanks for the messages. A lot to think about.
He's 56 and I think she is about 37. She's not English and has few friends so she rarely lets my ex see our kids, or if she does allow it, she comes along!
I guess I'm just feeling sorry for myself, being middle aged, having two jobs and being responsible for absolutely everything, plus one of our kids is autistic. I generally very strong but some days I just want to deck her !! lol!!

I’m sorry @autumnmarshmallows but I’d bet he regrets it bitterly. And I bet he’s bloody miserable to boot. I hope your adult children let him know how they feel. I think you’re definitely happier than him, whatever you may feel…..

Nowherenew · 18/10/2023 13:52

I’m sorry you feel this way but you seem to care more out the financial loss than him.

Everyone wishes they were better off financially and so you need to separate this, from your feelings towards her.

I would rather be living in a tent, than be living with a cheat who has no respect for me.

She may be financially well off but she has to live with the fact that her DH is a cheat and wouldn’t think twice about going off with a younger model.

Do you have any advice for someone in a relationship?

Why are you working 2 jobs?
Did you have a career whilst with him or jointly own the house?
Does he pay maintenance?

This is something that happens a lot and it’s so important that women protect themselves financially as best as they can.

Iwasafool · 18/10/2023 13:53

Hufflypuffly123 · 18/10/2023 11:17

Nobody said that.

They're saying caring for infants and young children can be repetitive, boring, relentless and extremely stressful. Which can show you things about yourself that you never previously thought possible.

Changing nappies multiple times a day is pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things when you're not doing it anymore and just remember the joy.

Which most people do. Otherwise no-one would have a second child.

It is the focus though, read the posts. No one is saying it is a joy to have a baby when you are older but it's hard work, it's all laughing at him because he'll have to change a nappy.

I've brought up 4 and done lots of childcare with GC so I've changed plenty of nappies, still doing it. It really isn't that big a deal in comparison to the pleasure of a new baby or it shouldn't be. It certainly isn't something to mock people about.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 18/10/2023 13:59

HairyMaclairey · 18/10/2023 13:04

OP,

How is your life? Are there things that you can do to make yourself happier, so you are not looking over the fence at the OW.

It might look like they are having a great time, but I'm sure there are stresses in their lives too. If he is older and has a young child, that is not going to be fun. He's also lost his younger children. If they are in their 20's and making their own way now, they will soon dump him. They won't want to go over and see him if she is there. I wouldn't go near him. I would blame him, and hold him in contempt. He won't get to have a relationship with his own DGC.

If you made a list of what you have lost, versus what you have gained, I think you would be surprised.

I love my DH, and we have been through some very tough times. I also know that I can't take another one of his episodes. He hasn't had affairs, as far as I can see, but every decade goes though a "don't want to be married".

I know that I would be very upset if we broke up, but I also know there would be upsides too. For example, we only get to do what he wants, and I have a long list of things I want to do. I end up eating what he wants, he's fussy, and he is high maintenance. I wouldn't have to do his washing and ironing and cleaning up after him as he works long hours.

In some ways I would be free. I might even meet someone who thinks about me, rather than his own needs.

You need to look at what you are doing, and see how you can enhance your own life. You have offloaded a dickhead. They are both horrible people who your kids don't like. Let them fester in their own stench.

You have a choice.

HairyMaclairey · 18/10/2023 14:24

You have a choice.

That’s a whole other thread 😝

woofwoofandwoof · 18/10/2023 15:23

@cartagenagina
I know a man who took both his wives on the same honeymoon

Some men are not pleasant. Remember this - man who took his wife and mistress on same holiday to same hotel.

She told the [News of the World ] that he later put her up in the same hotel as his wife and their young child when the family went on holiday to Spain’s Costa de la Luz. ‘Michael hatched this plan,’ she said. ‘He paid for everything. Every evening at 5pm he’d shake out his towel by the pool. This signal meant he was heading for the beach and I was to follow. He used to leave Yvette late at night saying he was going for a stroll then dash to my room and make love.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059966/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Moneybags-Mansfield-wife-No-2.html

There's a certain kind of person that thinks this sort of behaviour is ok.

SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE:Is it over for Moneybags Mansfield and wife No2?

Michael Mansfield is never usually lost for words. But there is one subject he’s curiously reluctant to discuss: the state of his 23-year marriage, says SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059966/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Moneybags-Mansfield-wife-No-2.html

JFDIYOLO · 18/10/2023 15:38

Love the idea that you could actually develop an amicable relationship with him for the future, keep a relationship going with your kids, secure a relationship with any future grandchildren too (and maybe their share of any inheritance, as that is a pragmatic consideration). Strategic friendliness.

You all becoming reasonably amicable is going to drive her nuts with jealousy.

Also - do you think they are following you all on social media, if you have it? I'd be going all out on the family days out, dinners, nights in the pub, trips ... All those things he's missing.

Think the life he could have been living with you, rather than dwelling on the idea that she's living yours.

I have a very nasty revenge-based streak, I find.

CorylusAgain · 18/10/2023 15:52

You all becoming reasonably amicable is going to drive her nuts with jealousy

What horrible advice. Firstly why is this woman the focus of retribution? And secondly the suggestion that anyone lives in a particular way in order to piss off someone else is so unhealthy,.

OP should be living her life with absolutely no regard to her ex and his current wife. She shouldn't give them any mental space whatsoever. Let alone embarking on a life of slow 'vengeance'.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/10/2023 15:54

autumnmarshmallows · 18/10/2023 09:56

Thanks for the messages. A lot to think about.
He's 56 and I think she is about 37. She's not English and has few friends so she rarely lets my ex see our kids, or if she does allow it, she comes along!
I guess I'm just feeling sorry for myself, being middle aged, having two jobs and being responsible for absolutely everything, plus one of our kids is autistic. I generally very strong but some days I just want to deck her !! lol!!

He’s an adult. He’s choosing not to see the kids. Not not being allowed.

I fell into the trap of that mindset a couple of times with my ex. It’s his choice. She can’t physically stop him seeing his children. He’s choosing not to.

Lilibert456 · 18/10/2023 15:55

When a man married his mistress he creates a vacancy.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 18/10/2023 15:58

Lilibert456 · 18/10/2023 15:55

When a man married his mistress he creates a vacancy.

I wish this tedious misogynistic cobblers would just die a death already.

Dweetfidilove · 18/10/2023 16:11

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 18/10/2023 09:02

You know she’s looking over her shoulder every day to see if he’s doing to he what he did to you?

She will never have a minute of peace.

Not necessarily true though, is it?

Dweetfidilove · 18/10/2023 16:13

GilberMarkham · 18/10/2023 09:39

I don't really understand how she's living your life ... Surely you life consists of more than living with your ex and sharing finances with him?

Do you not have a job?
Family?
Friends?
Hobbies and interests?
Are you dating at all? It's difficult to find someone but not impossible. I know ppl who have started ltrs in their 50s etc.

You presumably have a relationship with your adult kids ... And any grandkids to come?

Are things so bad financially that you can't afford a holiday?
If you were married, how come you haven't had a decent share of joint assets, pension etc.?

She's not living your life - shes living with and had a kid with your ex husband.
A lot of mothers of young kids don't work full-time or at all.

Edited

You’ve echoed my thoughts better than I could write them.

yogasaurus · 18/10/2023 16:14

Also - do you think they are following you all on social media, if you have it? I'd be going all out on the family days out, dinners, nights in the pub, trips ... All those things he's missing.

Why would he be missing something he chose to leave?

This isn’t revenge this is just pathetic.

Just move on

Dweetfidilove · 18/10/2023 16:16

Bunnyhair · 18/10/2023 09:53

@jackienory you sound a bit like the last 4 of my father’s 5 (to date) wives. They all thought they would be the one to give the poor man the stability he craved. He’s in his 80s now and still trying it on with the babysitter.

He’s doing what now 😂🫢

Frasers · 18/10/2023 16:23

JFDIYOLO · 18/10/2023 15:38

Love the idea that you could actually develop an amicable relationship with him for the future, keep a relationship going with your kids, secure a relationship with any future grandchildren too (and maybe their share of any inheritance, as that is a pragmatic consideration). Strategic friendliness.

You all becoming reasonably amicable is going to drive her nuts with jealousy.

Also - do you think they are following you all on social media, if you have it? I'd be going all out on the family days out, dinners, nights in the pub, trips ... All those things he's missing.

Think the life he could have been living with you, rather than dwelling on the idea that she's living yours.

I have a very nasty revenge-based streak, I find.

I really doubt she will be jealous of the op. I’m not sure you’ve a nasty revenge based streak, maybe more an active imagination.

Cantstopcoughing · 18/10/2023 16:24

he’ll Do the same again one day, then you get your satisfaction

my exh’s OW (who he went off with while I was pregnant with our first dc, his idea to have a baby by the way) rang me to tell me what he done, she got hysterical laughter, and a short, well you now know what it feels like,

took about twenty years I suppose, not proud of feeling the way I did but it felt well good!

SurprisedWithAHorse · 18/10/2023 16:36

Cantstopcoughing · 18/10/2023 16:24

he’ll Do the same again one day, then you get your satisfaction

my exh’s OW (who he went off with while I was pregnant with our first dc, his idea to have a baby by the way) rang me to tell me what he done, she got hysterical laughter, and a short, well you now know what it feels like,

took about twenty years I suppose, not proud of feeling the way I did but it felt well good!

Well that's messed up. You're satisfied that your cheating ex got more cheating sex? The one who was actually married to you?

80s · 18/10/2023 16:52

He's 56 and I think she is about 37. She's not English and has few friends so she rarely lets my ex see our kids, or if she does allow it, she comes along!
If your life was living with a much older man with a history of cheating, totally reliant on him for company, in a foreign country with cultural and language issues making it much harder to find friends, get a job, or take your child to the doctor's etc., then be glad that someone else has taken it over for you. Nice holidays don't make that kind of life satisfying.

It took me a few years to accept that my old future was not my future any more. Building a new life has helped a great deal.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 18/10/2023 16:56

caringcarer · 18/10/2023 09:50

This.

Why post 'This' as if that sop is definitive. It really isn't and when posters type these trite things as if their some sort of truism, it's quite unkind really. It's of the same ilk as 'married their mistress, vacancy', schtick. Goldsmith to whom that twattish quote is attributed to, isn't somebody I would look to for guidance or ever want to quote.

My ex is better suited to his new wife (of 20 odd years). I very much doubt she's looking over her shoulder and it's not something I would be hoping for her either.

PP is right, having been 'the wife' doesn't mark a woman as having had to give up her life as it was. I read the relationships board sometimes and don't recognise the doom. OP (and many others) no longer have a cheating husband to take care of, they have potential and full lives to live from the moment they're free; heartbreak notwithstanding - that doesn't last forever.

That's my opinion but I wouldn't have found the meaningless tropes being spouted either helpful or soothing, because they're mostly wrong and deep down, most women know that.

GilberMarkham · 18/10/2023 18:38

SurprisedWithAHorse · 18/10/2023 16:36

Well that's messed up. You're satisfied that your cheating ex got more cheating sex? The one who was actually married to you?

Eh?

She's satisfied the woman who cheated with him, got cheated on by him.

And only those worthy of sainthood wouldn't be.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 18/10/2023 18:45

GilberMarkham · 18/10/2023 18:38

Eh?

She's satisfied the woman who cheated with him, got cheated on by him.

And only those worthy of sainthood wouldn't be.

So the one who actually cheated on her gets more cheating sex, and this is a good thing. Cheating men are actually just agents of justice for erring women, even ones who weren't committed. She deserves heartbreak, he deserves more cheating sex.

I don't know why I still show up this weapon level misogyny. There are none so blind as those who hold women responsible for cheating, lying men and glorify in men continuing to be shits.

This, by the way, is why you'll never get peace. Because you'll never, ever put the blame where it belongs.

BeckiWithAnI · 18/10/2023 23:19

I don’t understand how she’s “living your life”. Other than being with your ex it sounds like you have nothing in common.

You really need to put some distance between yourself and what has happened. You say you’d never be with him again but why are you looking backwards? Surely in five years you’ve done things in your life, made memories, built relationships etc. that you’re proud of that you’d never have done with him. Why aren’t you focusing on your new life?

If he’d never left you for her you certainly wouldn’t be raising a young child right now, and would you even want to be?!? You’re comparing lives that just can’t be compared. I struggle to think you were gloriously happy with him, so what would your life even look like. Pretty bleak by the sounds of it.