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Therapist contacted social service's because my husband was calling me names in front of my children

165 replies

1exhaustedmama · 25/09/2023 16:56

Hi All,

I'm absolutely confused about this. I've been having regular therapy sessions for a while now and I tell my therapist everything.
Over the weekend my husband got angry with me and started calling me names "Cnt" and F Off you C u next Tuesday in front of my 2children (non stop). I told my therapist and he decided that he has to report it to social services.
This has happened previously when I was 6months pregnant. My husband was verbally abusive and threatened to take my then 18month old child away from me, which resulted in me calling the police.
Has anyone had similar situations?

OP posts:
Potiphar · 26/09/2023 07:46

So just to be clear here the first duty of the therapist is not to help the patient?
The first duty of the therapist is to ensure the safety of the patient’s kids, or the about-to-be-murdered neighbour or whoever? Have I got that right?

Zone2NorthLondon · 26/09/2023 07:58

@Potiphar therapists,doctors, all have statutory duty to maintain safety & are mandated to disclose risk and or safeguarding issues. Professional registration and statutory duty compel disclosure of such situations. I cannot see what you’re struggling with. Therapy isn’t a don’t share don’t tell situation, it’s a professional treatment environment which is regulated.

if you want a totally secret oi! don’t tell scenario you’ll need to get all Phil Mitchell and ‘ave a whisper making sure you emphasise no one is a grass. Innit. Of course that’s not therapy, and it’s unregulated. Innit. But at least no one is a grass

LorraineBainMcFly · 26/09/2023 08:07

Potiphar · 26/09/2023 07:46

So just to be clear here the first duty of the therapist is not to help the patient?
The first duty of the therapist is to ensure the safety of the patient’s kids, or the about-to-be-murdered neighbour or whoever? Have I got that right?

And you think that's a bad thing? That they're following their duty to vulnerable people?
You think not being a grass trumps someone, possibly children being abused/assaulted/killed?
Have you disclose something you're now panicking about I wonder!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 26/09/2023 08:09

Potiphar · 26/09/2023 07:46

So just to be clear here the first duty of the therapist is not to help the patient?
The first duty of the therapist is to ensure the safety of the patient’s kids, or the about-to-be-murdered neighbour or whoever? Have I got that right?

Well, if it were your children that your ex was planning to murder (for example), I think you'd be pretty pissed off to find out at the Inquests that his therapist knew all about his annihilator ideation six months ago but kept it secret because 'their first duty was to their patient', wouldn't you?

BodegaSushi · 26/09/2023 08:18

Potiphar · 25/09/2023 20:21

So if I told my therapist I wanted to kill my next door neighbour would my therapist tell the police?

Um...YES? Are you fucking serious?

Imagine your neighbour being murdered and the therapist goes 'oh yeah, they told me they wanted to kill them, LOLZ!'

BodegaSushi · 26/09/2023 08:28

Potiphar · 26/09/2023 06:59

Someone earlier in the thread confirmed that if a patient said something like “I’m going to kill my neighbour” the shrink would report it to the police.

is that true or not?

What is wrong with you? Your posts are hectic. You need therapy to discuss your therapy Confused

Flopsythebunny · 26/09/2023 08:46

azlazee1 · 25/09/2023 19:44

What about patient confidentiality? I'd be switching therapists.

What about duty of care to the children growing up in an abusive home?

Lookingforasilverlining · 26/09/2023 08:54

Potiphar · 26/09/2023 06:04

And that’s your call to make is it? It’s not your patient’s call to make? Despite the fact that the patient is paying you for the privilege.
Don’t you think that’s a bit high-handed?

I’m astounded anyone tells you fuckers anything ever if you’re going to rush off and grass them up the first chance you get.

“grass them up”. This makes you sound about 12. The focus here is child protection, protecting vulnerable children not punishing adults.

LorraineBainMcFly · 26/09/2023 08:54

BodegaSushi · 26/09/2023 08:18

Um...YES? Are you fucking serious?

Imagine your neighbour being murdered and the therapist goes 'oh yeah, they told me they wanted to kill them, LOLZ!'

According to pot everyone should applaud the therapist for not "grassing to the rozzers" it seems.

RedAndWhiteCarnations · 26/09/2023 10:15

I’m not sure that posters who are horrified a therapist would report someone to SS or the Police realise that ALL HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS would do the same.
That’s why MW report people to SS when they have an inkling something is off for example.

The difference is that GP, me etc… have systems around them to support and protect them whereas therapists (and other allied professionals) don’t. Which makes their situation even more difficult.
The therapist is likely to have talked about it in supervision too just to be sure they weren’t over reacting and that the balance between their duty towards their client/patient and their duty to protect children/their client life/other people life is right.

It’s An extremely hard call to make.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 27/09/2023 10:04

MichelleScarn · 25/09/2023 21:53

@1exhaustedmama rainbow and butterflies is talking nonsense and I hope people who do this professionally will co-oberate.

Edited

I want to make it very clear it was not me who suggested her children will be taken away I was commenting on someone else who seemed like they were saying that, and I said I disagreed with their comment!

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 27/09/2023 10:07

Zone2NorthLondon · 25/09/2023 21:56

Alarmist & ill judged post that’s all about you being provocative. Why? Do you have issues with statutory services? Are you enacting your own issues upon @1exhaustedmama . Your post is alarmist and you’ve unnecessarily unsettled the op

I am not the poster who said this I was quoting their post to say I didn't agree with the alarmist post! Whatwillnyc was the poster!

leighqt · 27/09/2023 11:31

Your therapist has a duty of care to yourself and your children whom need to be safeguarded. What your husband is doing is Emotional Abuse to yourself and children.

the therapist did the completely right thing.

leighqt · 27/09/2023 11:36

Poor kid must of been terrified

80sMum · 27/09/2023 11:48

1exhaustedmama · 25/09/2023 17:25

Some lady said that I'm depriving my kids from their dads and that I should just with the fact that he 'my husband' is messy.
It all started because he was mixing dirty clothes with clean clothes, after I spent all the time cleaning. I was shocked when I told him why did he do that he bag am picking the dirty clothes and throwing them on the floor. I just left him then I picked them up after. Later on when my son was having his dinner- husband came over and started shouting and calling me names because parking ticket I got and the fact that his jumper shrunk in the wash. He was saying YOU ARE A C and F off. I kept on repeating not infront of the children whist smiling and continued to just laugh with my toddler. He was shouting why are you laughing and kicked the small basket that had baby clothes in them. I just ignored him and continued to make smilie faces at my toddler so that he doesn't sense anything is wrong

The behaviour of your husband is appalling and incredibly childish. He's behaving like a recalcitrant toddler! How do you put up with living with such an immature person? Marriage should be between two adults!
Honestly, I think you and your children would be better off without this person.

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