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Well it's happened as predicted and I'm so sad for my lovely friend

412 replies

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:30

My best friend who I've been close to for over twenty years got into a relationship a few years ago.
He was made up as he has very little interest on sex and she accepted it.
He told her from the beginning that he never wanted children and that he probably wouldn't be able to creat a baby such was his disinterest in sex. She told him at the beginning that she wanted children more than anything in the world.
A couple of years passed. He continued to live like a man with no commitments .. constant nights out, holidays and weekends away. She was always waiting in the wings.
He is wealthy and comes from a loving and close family . She is the opposite. He said he would never be getting married. Just isnt for him.
I felt he was leading her on a bit and told him so. I also suggested that if she wanted a baby that much that she would make it happen regardless. He said she'd changed her mind and didn't want a baby after all ! He didn't like it and we drifted for a few weeks. That was a few years ago. All perfect since.
I was always worried that she would get pregnant against his expressed wishes as I knew how much she wanted a baby and how much he didn't and Lo and behold she is.
He is shocked. Idiot fell for the withdrawal method that she told him was 99% effective. He doesn't even understand how this happened .
She is now pushing for marriage. He says no way.
I am gutted for him. He looks so blank and pale. I really don't trust her at all.

OP posts:
Mummy08m · 04/09/2023 20:04

He doesn't sound lovely at all.

He has unprotected sex, blames his gf for unwanted pregnancy

He overshares extremely intimate details about his gf and sex life with a female friend (withdrawal method, wtf? I have no clue what form of contraception any of my friends use)

His faux innocence "but my gf told me withdrawal method is 99%!" - are you a young boy?! Have you never been through mainstream education?!

Openly brags to same female friend how he's stringing along his gf who wants kids

Claims to be asexual but isn't- why?! For entry into lgbt in-crowd? Mind boggles

If this man is the loveliest of your male friends, I'm sorry for you

EmmaEmerald · 04/09/2023 20:04

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:47

He is my closest friend, that's why I'm upset for him. Would you not be upset for your closest friend if that happened for them, seeing how distraught they are?

Well yes

but I have to ask how it is he doesn't know about basic contraception. I suspect reality is he knows, didn't want to get a vasectomy or use a condom.

Thelonelygiraffe · 04/09/2023 20:05

and that he probably wouldn't be able to creat a baby such was his disinterest in sex.

That's not how it works!!

I'd butt out. It's none of your business.

If you have unprotected sex, you're going to get pg sooner or later.

AuntMarch · 04/09/2023 20:06

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:47

He is my closest friend, that's why I'm upset for him. Would you not be upset for your closest friend if that happened for them, seeing how distraught they are?

Not if they've had unprotected sex with someone they already knew 100% wanted children (so wouldn't be planning abortion if it happened), no.

Thelonelygiraffe · 04/09/2023 20:06

Idiot fell for the withdrawal method that she told him was 99% effective. He doesn't even understand how this happened

Does he know nothing about sex or a woman's anatomy? What a tool.

Theunamedcat · 04/09/2023 20:07

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:47

He is my closest friend, that's why I'm upset for him. Would you not be upset for your closest friend if that happened for them, seeing how distraught they are?

No because even with my ridiculous 80s school lesson on contraception we were taught that this was NOT a safe and secure method unless you WANTED a baby

Whiskeypowers · 04/09/2023 20:07

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:47

He is my closest friend, that's why I'm upset for him. Would you not be upset for your closest friend if that happened for them, seeing how distraught they are?

I think you should keep your beak out and tell him to be responsible for his OWN boost and contraceptive choices.
if my closest male friend “unwittingly” got got a woman pregnant via the withdrawal method I would tell him he had been stupid. I wouldn’t be wringing my hands over it on MN

Lilolilibet · 04/09/2023 20:08

He is not a lovely friend. He's been really selfish and irresponsible.

TheaBrandt · 04/09/2023 20:08

Are we supposed to be feeling sorry for him?! Too funny! Diddums.

Sloth66 · 04/09/2023 20:08

Is this man in his 40s? Sad he’s over sharing such personal details like a teenager. I’d keep well out of this.

Awrite · 04/09/2023 20:09

For the life of me I can't work out what this woman sees in your friend.

whereaw · 04/09/2023 20:09

Well at least he's got a friend like you to help him look after his baby as I'm sure the poor (wealthy) lovely man couldn't manage alone.

Ssme92 · 04/09/2023 20:10

YABU to be having such a strong opinion on this, it really isn't your business.

The only person I feel sad for in this entire situation is the girl.... I would be upset if I knew my boyfriend was sharing details about our sex life with a female friend.

You go on about how lovely he is when you have watched him string a girl along while he lived a single life, watched him spout how much he doesn't want kids while never doing anything about it (vasectomy would've been the smart choice, contraception would be the very minimum he should be using)...

Yes it's normal to feel sad for friends that are in situations they don't want to be in but 1. He easily could've avoided this entire situation if he wasn't a stupid gobshite and 2. You shouldn't know this level of detail about a couple

DinaofCloud9 · 04/09/2023 20:10

He's lying to you.

He's happier with this woman than he's making out to you. Otherwise he'd be making sure he wasn't going to get her pregnant.

SnackQueen · 04/09/2023 20:10

I'm just here for the ratio.

Saschka · 04/09/2023 20:11

Not if it was a case of “I had unprotected sex for years with my girlfriend, who desperately wants children, and now she is pregnant. It is a total mystery to me how this could have happened”

lapsedbookworm · 04/09/2023 20:11

My guess is he likes to downplay his relationship with you so he can keep you waiting in the wings. Your certainly lapping up all his nonsense about how he isn't that into her /he was tricked etc.

drunkpeacock · 04/09/2023 20:11

Erm he doesn't sound particularly lovely, he's clearly more interested in sex than you thought, he had sex without contraception he wasn't "tricked" or "caught" in any way and now he needs to be a grown up and deal with that.

How bizarre that you feel sorry for him.
Is this some sort of convoluted reverse?

Mehmeh22 · 04/09/2023 20:13

You have just read the reality of many women OP. He is not a fricken innocent victim. He's an adult that CHOSE to have sex and CHOSE to use an ineffective form of birth control. He CHOSE to stay with her knowing she wanted children. She didn't trap him. Jeasus talk about internalised misogyny

MyHornCanPierceTheSky · 04/09/2023 20:13

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/09/2023 19:37

Sorry - what the hell has this got to do with you ?

Of course! Do you have the feels for your lovely wealthy friend?

itsgettingweird · 04/09/2023 20:13

WTF have I just read

The truth.

It often hurts.

But man and woman decide to have sex they know the risks of pregnancy.

Grown man decides to have sex without any contraception knowing the risks are increased massively - then he doesn't get to act shocked and hurt that the woman is pregnant.

If he doesn't want to raise the child he helped create then he can pay his maintenance and continue his carefree life.

He isn't a poor innocent man in this. They are equally as responsible as each other.

Ivebeentogeorgia · 04/09/2023 20:14

Fancy having unprotected sex and being surprised it has led to pregnancy. What an idiot your friend is. Now he has to face up to his responsibilities

CassiniG · 04/09/2023 20:14

This is the second post I've seen in recent times where the op is over invested in someone else's life!

MarshyMcMarshFace · 04/09/2023 20:14

Oh that poor sweet man. Imagine the loss of his nights out and endless holidays! The terrible dent in his wealth and fortune as he is compelled to support the fruit of his Ill protected loins!

The withdrawal method doesn’t work? Why weren’t we ever told this?

Alas alack.

cocksstrideintheevening · 04/09/2023 20:15

fandom · 04/09/2023 19:47

He is my closest friend, that's why I'm upset for him. Would you not be upset for your closest friend if that happened for them, seeing how distraught they are?

Shouldn't have shagged her without contraception then!