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New man used a prostitute once...

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namechangeforthisy · 02/08/2023 11:33

I'm in a new relationship and we've become really close had had lots of intimate conversations, especially to do with sex. I feel really safe, cared about and all those positive things about this man. There are no red flags in what I've seen in the time we've spent together or in the sex - which is amazing (5 weeks but multiple dates, few days at a time etc - maybe about 12ish actual separate occasions and spending a couple of days together at a time)

In one of our intimate conversations I asked him if he'd ever slept with a prostitute. He said no and then a few seconds later he said actually he didn't want to lie to me, he's never told anyone else about it but basically yes he has. He's answered all the questions I've asked. It was about 13 years ago (he's now 44) in the UK, after a really drunken night out at 1am and apparently his friend and he went on a website and ordered one, high end, cost around £200 each and they each slept with her (separately, in a separate room but one after the other). Even writing this down I feel like it's awful, disgusting etc.. Ugh..

We've spoken about it a bit and had really mature conversations about it. He is completely ashamed, for all the obvious reasons (and that was how he was telling the story to begin with to be clear - not after any reaction from me), understands that there will be a lot of women pushed into this, not freely doing it etc and just in general he says as soon as he sobered up he felt like it was awful and regretted it. He and the friend have not spoken about it since and nothing like that has ever happened again. He feels like it's one mistake in however many years of having sex and he's never repeated it again since. He seems completely genuine and I have no reason to believe he's lying but ofc it's totally thrown me off.

From his perspective, he massively regrets it but feels like it's one (big) mistake and he would never do it again, hasn't done it since etc. He understands if it's a dealbreaker for me but hopes we can move past it etc. I do feel like he's a genuine really lovely guy and I've got feelings for him and can really seeing it going somewhere. TBH I wish he'd lied to me!

Any thoughts/advice? I'm trying to think if there's anything else I might need to ask him to help clarify how I feel.. or if it's just a wait and see type situation. He had no reason to tell me and I'd never have found out so I do think it's good he wanted to be honest. I feel like I want to carry on seeing him and I guess just be careful and look out for any other red flags but is that foolish?

I guess the main thought I'm thinking in his favour is, if I believe it was a one off, do you believe that someone can do something bad but still be a good person/still deserve forgiveness? On the other hand, some people might just view it as perfectly acceptable between consenting adults..

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Growlybear83 · 02/08/2023 13:18

If he did this years before he met you then it wouldn't be an issue for me.

baileys6904 · 02/08/2023 13:23

It doesn't matter what other people's boundaries are, it only matters what yours are.

He was honest with you. Who knows the sexual history of every male partner, even those of the more extreme responses. The don't know what their partner has done prior to knowing them. Even they can only judge them by what the see or know.

Let's face it even the 'it's just like rape' folk could have shagged some bloke that paid for half a dozen 'ladies of the night' and they wouldn't know 🤷‍♀️

Moral of this story is don't ask questions you might not like the answer to if you don't intend to do anything about it

Prinnny · 02/08/2023 13:25

I wouldn’t let one questionable decision 13yrs ago put me off him if there’s no other red flags. We all make silly choices at some point in our lives.

Cindan · 02/08/2023 13:31

I would dump him.

That is not something I could ever accept.

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 02/08/2023 13:34

You asked and he answered truthfully. He didn't have to. A lot of the people posting about how awful it is could be sleeping with men who did the same but have never admitted it. Statistically at least some of them have!

Everyone has a past and no one is perfect. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was comfortable that everything else was good. Any other red flags, I would be gone.

Monkeylimas · 02/08/2023 13:35

I’d be worried that the woman stood in front of me was going home to an abusive pimp or had been trafficked. I’d be concerned about her situation not having an orgasm.

He says he’s only had sex with one prostitute, what about blow jobs and hand jobs or happy ending massages. At university we had been chatting after some friends had got back from Amsterdam and one guy said he had only slept with a prostitute once and his friend laughed and said ‘not counting all those bjs?’. It turned out he’d had many bjs in the U.K. from prostitutes but he didn’t count them as sex.

This is quite an old article now but it’s a sad read https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/prostitution-sexual-violence

Prostitution Is Sexual Violence

Despite the image presented in films, books and television, prostitution places women and children at high risk for PTSD and other comorbid disorders. What experiences lead to this life?

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/prostitution-sexual-violence

dressedforcomfort · 02/08/2023 13:36

It would absolutely be a deal-breaker for me.

QueefQueen80s · 02/08/2023 13:54

ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 02/08/2023 13:34

You asked and he answered truthfully. He didn't have to. A lot of the people posting about how awful it is could be sleeping with men who did the same but have never admitted it. Statistically at least some of them have!

Everyone has a past and no one is perfect. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I was comfortable that everything else was good. Any other red flags, I would be gone.

"No-one is perfect" low bar you have there.

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mumda · 02/08/2023 14:02

Do you think she gave them a discount or charged more?

Urgh.

INeedAnotherName · 02/08/2023 14:08

But I do find it hypocritical when women would say "my sexual past doesnt matter"
Yeah right...as though paying for sex is the same 😂

OP - I missed the part about your relationship only being five weeks. That's rather early to get into these kind of discussions and verbal overspill. It would make me wonder if he's setting you up for if/when he uses another prostitute and brushes off your objections with a "you knew I'd done this before". This whole confession, what it is, how soon he's telling you, how emotionally insightful pulling you in, is a huge red flag.

FriendsDrinkBook · 02/08/2023 14:11

Ultimately its about the op's level of comfort on the subject. But if she's already looking up stats on men buying consent I'd wager that she's very much considering her options.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2023 14:12

Women can judge me for paying for sex and thats fine

Excellent. Glad that's cleared up. You can go away now.

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curiouslion · 02/08/2023 14:13

OP is this something you would normally ask a prospective partner or new boyfriend? I think that is odd .Asking a question like that surely runs the risk of being lied to.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 02/08/2023 14:14

He told the truth
it’s not cool but it’s a one off

really this is down to you

i could accept but I’m not you

if it’s a deal breaker that’s ok

AbraKedavra · 02/08/2023 14:15

FWIW I don't think it should be a big deal to begin with. The way I see it is buying a service - not a person, a service - in a consensual transaction. There are lots of unpleasant jobs out there that people pay others to do.

However, even if you do think it's vile, 13 years is a hella long time. Heck, even if I found out my partner had cheated on me with a ONS 13 years ago, there's a good chance I'd forgive and move on.

The fact is people change. They mature, they become better human beings, they get a better understanding of right and wrong
It's been 13 years.

There are things I did many years ago that I'm now deeply ashamed of, and I would never do anything like that again. And I suspect many or even most people have at least one incident in their adult past that they would love to go back in time and undo.

You can't undo the past, but you can become a better person and make sure your future self is different.

Clymene · 02/08/2023 14:17

AbraKedavra · 02/08/2023 14:15

FWIW I don't think it should be a big deal to begin with. The way I see it is buying a service - not a person, a service - in a consensual transaction. There are lots of unpleasant jobs out there that people pay others to do.

However, even if you do think it's vile, 13 years is a hella long time. Heck, even if I found out my partner had cheated on me with a ONS 13 years ago, there's a good chance I'd forgive and move on.

The fact is people change. They mature, they become better human beings, they get a better understanding of right and wrong
It's been 13 years.

There are things I did many years ago that I'm now deeply ashamed of, and I would never do anything like that again. And I suspect many or even most people have at least one incident in their adult past that they would love to go back in time and undo.

You can't undo the past, but you can become a better person and make sure your future self is different.

Of course it's buying a person. For a short period of time.

mixedpressings · 02/08/2023 14:17

IhaveanewTVnow · 02/08/2023 13:05

Difficult one as you asked him the question and we must always be prepared for an answer we don’t like.

he was honest…. I can’t imagine him lying about this. But who knows…. They might have picked her up off the street or met a girl in a club and he is just sanitising it a bit.

I don’t think anyone can advise here. It’s a little like an affair we all have different boundaries and lines of forgiveness. My issue would be that I couldn’t erase that thought from my mind. It would always be there and would I ever trust him 100%not to do it again if the circumstances were right?

I would perhaps have a few weeks break from contact with him and see how I feel. You are in the honeymoon period at the moment and 5 weeks is nothing. Take a break from him. Reset your boundaries and then see how you feel.

This is good advice

Cindan · 02/08/2023 14:18

There is no justification for paying to exploit another human for sex. Nobody has a right to have sex.

Pinkitydrinkity · 02/08/2023 14:20

It’s far enough in the past that I would accept it happened, then move on and never talk about it again!

Everyone is different though.

FriendsDrinkBook · 02/08/2023 14:23

Buying a service? I person doesn't risk their personal safety and health giving someone a haircut ffs.

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/08/2023 14:25

Put yourself in her shoes, looking up at him.

That would give me a permanent ick.

My husband knows my sexual abuse history. He has listened to me while I tearfully told him about rapes, abuses, violence from men in the past. He has consoled me, empathised with me and I believe he is disgusted at the behaviour of males.

To then find out he has used a prostitute to satisfy his sexual urges would be an instant end to our marriage. He would be out the door immediately.

Men who use prostitutes are misogynists. They do not have empathy.

I've heard excuses from men before. Such as "I was helping her put food on the table".

Yeah. If you wanted to help her, you could have given her a tesco food voucher, you didn't have to stick your penis inside her.

No way. Absolute deal breaker. Vile, vile, vile!

pinkyredrose · 02/08/2023 14:26

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Even women who were overweight got laid did they?

Being autistic isn't an excuse for a disgusting attitude. No wonder you had to pay someone to shag you.

SwordToFlamethrower · 02/08/2023 14:26

Theimpossiblegirl · 02/08/2023 12:12

If he admitted to rape in the past would you continue to be involved with him?
For me, it's the same.

Agreed. Absolutely

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