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Just found out H is cheating

419 replies

SensetheTone · 01/08/2023 22:30

Long-term poster but name changed for this.

To cut a long story short - we’re on holiday with our two DC and I have just found out my husband of ten years has been cheating with a work colleague for the past three months. I had to catch him out (via messages on phone), he didn’t confess. I am all over the place, and also dealing with two very confused children, one of whom has grasped what is going on and is really upset. I don’t know what to do next and was hoping for a handhold and maybe some tips on moving forward. I don’t think I want to carry on as I can’t see how I can ever trust him again but am just overwhelmed by the idea of splitting up - we’ve been together for half of my life.

OP posts:
whyisntanelephantblue · 02/08/2023 06:52

Change yours and the kids flights, ask someone from one of the other rental cottages to drive you and your DC to the airport and then when you're home call any relative who wont go back to your now ex-h with what's going on. Have them take your kids for a week and get yourself together - Please dont stay, get your kids to safety and deal with him later. He can go shack up with OW like the arsehole he is.

Sending all the love to you OP, been in a similar situation to you - Luckily no children and no wedding rings were involved but cheating is horrible no matter the circumstances

SensetheTone · 02/08/2023 06:53

FancyFran · 02/08/2023 06:47

I don't have personal experience of this but plenty of my friends have. Three months is a short time to decide to leave a marriage (I think your husband is minimising the relationship). If the OW has told her husband I'm surprised he didn't tell you unless she has agreed to stop seeing your H. For what it's worth can you call your parents, siblings? I had two brothers and either would have come and got me. At least get someone to collect you from the airport as the pp said. Have you got your own money? Make sure you have some funds for legal advice. Sometimes you need to pay £500 to have an initial meeting. Solicitors wait for their fees if you have enough assets. I am sorry. Be strong for your kids and get your angry pants on when you get home. Bastard.

I know, I couldn’t believe this - what a coward. OW’s husband apparently saw messages between them and H has been worried for the last fortnight that he (the husband) will tell me but figured it was low risk. I asked him why he didn’t do me the courtesy of telling me himself rather than waiting for me to find out and he said he was struggling to find the right time (as I mentioned, it’s been our son’s birthday and, ironically, our wedding anniversary before the holiday). He is such a selfish shit.

OP posts:
Pumpkinpower · 02/08/2023 06:53

So sorry not familiar with how to post and somehow posted to totally wrong thread apologies pls ignore above I've reported to delete doesn't seem to allow me to

Hibiscrubbed · 02/08/2023 06:55

SensetheTone · 02/08/2023 06:48

I completely agree. I feel as though he is assessing whether OW is willing to leave her husband and kids and run off into the sunset with him and if she says no, he’ll come back to me. I have told him as much, and also that I have too much self-respect to be the second choice. If he really wanted to make it work he would be begging for forgiveness and offering to do whatever it takes to make it work. He hasn’t even ended things with the OW.

I have told him to leave and find somewhere else to stay. I am fine when I’m on my own with the children and we have plenty to entertain them where we are so we’ll just stay here until Saturday, then head home, take a deep breath and start a new life without him.

He is shameless. Jesus Christ.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 02/08/2023 06:57

rockingbird · 01/08/2023 23:15

I know you are in shock and it's all racing round in your head - been there! Best but if advice I got from someone on this board. Take stock and do nothing yet, you don't need to decide anything in a rush. Big girl pants on for the rest of the holiday and let that fecker stew. Keep it civil until you get home then ask him to pack his stuff and give you some space as soon as you are home! Make sure you eat, drink water and hug those children tightly. It saddens me every time I read yet another one of these stories and I'm so sorry it's happening to you. Hugs xx

If in doubt, do nowt..for now.. You’ve got four more days.Take the kids out on your own. Dont agree to anything until you decide what is best for you and the kids. Oh and take anything he promises with a grain of salt

trevthecat · 02/08/2023 07:01

You sound so strong. Just take each day and start to build that new life.

Also, what a dick, not even ended things. No respect at all

Thegrumpycup · 02/08/2023 07:12

@SensetheTone I just wanted to say you're doing great. I am now a month post the initial separation from my STBXH. There was no confirmed cheating (I still have my suspicions, but time will tell on that one). I can't even say it was hard or a shock because we had our difficulties for a while. But I was terrified at the thought of being on my own. I'd also been with STBXH half my life and my entire adult life. I'd never lived on my own. Never even slept in a house on my own.

My advice is to be hard faced about it and get the practicalities sorted first. Work out what you want and what is best for the children. Ideally you want the children to remain in the family home to minimise disruption to them. Can you afford the home by yourself and can you afford to buy him out? Questions you need to honestly answer by yourself.

You really need to emotionally detach from this one. What custody arrangement is best for the children? You might not want them with him 50/50 but would your kids miss him etc? Who can practically do the school runs etc? Who is the most hands on parent etc? As much as it pains me to be apart from my DC that long, 60/40 in my favour was the best thing for our DC.

Get onto CMS and work out how much maintenance you'd be entitled to based on your preferred custody arrangements. Also get on Entitled to see if you'd be entitled to any UC top ups. Don't presume you're not. I was surprised how much I could get and have also realised I'm entitled to certain benefits for DC due to their condition.

It's hard but you need to detach all emotion from this process. Forget what relationship you once had. Treat him as you would someone you have a professional relationship with. Pleasant but detached. Don't do favours. Don't feel bad for him. Don't worry about how you look or what is fair. The only fair is what is fair for your children. The children need to be your priority here. That will probably mean maintaining a civil demeanour to your DH when you want to stab his eyes out with a spoon. And never, ever, ever blame him in front of your children. Reassure them you both still love them very much and they will still see both of you. Give them lots of hugs and cuddles. Give them space to talk about their feelings.

God, I've gone off on one! It's been the hardest thing I've ever done but it has also been so, so, so much easier than I ever expected. You can do this!!

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Beaverbridge · 02/08/2023 07:29

The Grumpy cup. Excellent post and advice. 💐

billy1966 · 02/08/2023 07:42

Let family and friends know even by text so that you can be supported.

Be glad you found out sooner than later, it would have eventually come out.

Focus on finances and housing and helping your children cope with the fact their scummy cheating father couldn't care less about them.

You will get through this.

Buildingthefuture · 02/08/2023 07:53

I’m so sorry op. What a Twat he is. Him saying “he needs time to get his head together” made me snort 😡 HE needs time? He, who has had at least three months of making unilateral decision about your and your dcs lives?? What about YOU, whose life he has just but a bomb under??? It just shows how deeply flawed and selfish his thinking currently is.
My advice would be to grey rock the fucker. I’m sure you feel utterly desolate but do not show him that. Cold as ice is the way forward. Practical, calm and get him out and away from you as soon as you get home. More often than not, these selfish, selfish tools discover that the grass is not infact greener….
Affairs exist in a vacuum, away from the mundane and boring of normal life. That sexy forbidden fantasy more often than not disappears when she’s having to clean his shit stains off the toilet and when he realises that she doesn’t want to have sex because her dc (and yours) have just told her that they hate her for what she and he have done.
Poor baby can’t decide? Ah well, you CAN. Take back the control that he has stolen from you and tell him you are no longer an option. Disloyalty is about as attractive as untreated venereal disease. He can keep it.

prh47bridge · 02/08/2023 08:10

SensetheTone · 01/08/2023 23:03

I have my and the DC’s passports. House is owned as joint tenants. He is employed. He claims he would never be a prick about the finances, but he has also been lying to me for three months so….

I work but only part-time so will need to think about whether it’s possible to go full-time - am really conscious I’ll need to be there for the DC though.

To clarify, as you are married it doesn't matter how the house is owned or whether you have contributed to home improvements. These things are important when an unmarried couple separates, but they make no difference at all to the financial settlement when a married couple divorces after a long marriage such as yours.

Hope you are ok.

itsmyp4rty · 02/08/2023 08:16

He needs time to get his head together? He's had a shock? He's been worried for the last two weeks? Poor baby.

What a fucking selfish bastard.

I agree with GrumpyCup. Any emotions you had/have for him, shut them down now whenever you're dealing with him. Polite detachment, fake smiles that don't reach your eyes, nice and cold. All energy, love and laughter going into the kids - that's the lovely family life you're throwing away asshole.

Tell your family and friends at home. Tell him that he needs to move out the house when you get home as you need to get YOUR head together as YOU'VE had a shock.

What's your financial position OP?

fifteenfifty · 02/08/2023 08:18

Another hand hold and I have been there too - we weren't on holiday but it was Christmas and game face was everything with two small kids. You are being wonderful for your children, take heart and pride in every painful effort you are making to make things ok for your kids. I would do as you are doing and see the holiday out with him elsewhere.

He is not sorry and this honestly clarifies things and makes it easier. There is no painful trying to make things work. Mine wasn't sorry either. It is devastatingly hurtful but in the long run he has plenty of time to be sorry and right now it makes your options clearer, although it makes the disbelief even stronger.

You hold strong for your kids. The one thing I would say is you DO need support from home, right now. You do need to call family or a best friend. You matter too. You can only do what you can do. I didn't tell anyone but my best friend and sister at first but their support got me through those first terrible days. They will understand after the first call that you can't talk fully in front of the children.

Thinking of you so much. You can do this🥰.

itsmyp4rty · 02/08/2023 08:20

Oh sorry just seen that you work part time - I would milk his money offer for as long as possible so you can be there for the children in the beginning, but be aware that he could turn at any moment so start the ball rolling on looking into going full time.

Marwoodsbigbreak · 02/08/2023 08:27

How fucking dare he?! It’s all about him and his needs isn’t it?

Be prepared for him to backtrack today and try to persuade you to sweep it all under the carpet. Tell him he has to get separate accommodation or you will have to explain to (whoever would upset him most) what’s going on.

You have to toughen up quickly. Tell someone in real life what’s happened, it can just be a text message, telling them not to call, but you need to make this real. It must feel pretty unreal right now.

Then planning for the future. What’s your housing situation? Can he move in with family? Think about other assets, savings and pensions. If your income is low, you might get UC top up as it doesn’t include child maintenance as income. As a broad brush, CM should be 20% of his net pay per month, depending on how many nights he has the DC.

You are strong and capable. He’s a lying, arrogant little piece of garbage.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 02/08/2023 08:27

Hi OP, hope you’re doing ok this morning but appreciate you must be in terrible shock.

Just wanted to make one practical point - don’t change the locks on your jointly owned home. It’s already been suggested once, and as these types of threads gather momentum there’s often a well-intentioned but ill-informed chorus of posters encouraging you to do this. Don’t, you’ll end up making more trouble for yourself at a time when you least need it.

There are lots of people on here who can genuinely help you navigate through this though. I’m so sorry it’s happened to you and your kids. Good luck with everything 💐

NewDogOwner · 02/08/2023 08:27

He stays away while you and the kids go for nice dinner.

Daisyhillsareblooming · 02/08/2023 08:32

Sorry to read this, my ex husband got up one morning and left me and my then very young children, of course there was an exciting new woman in the background. Novelty of it wore off after about 6 months and he was crying he had made a huge mistake. Try to put your anger to one side when it comes to finances etc otherwise the solicitors bill will be huge like ours was . I just can’t understand these men who do this , ultimately they are the losers . I am now happily remarried so there was a happy ending to it all.

Marwoodsbigbreak · 02/08/2023 08:32

Www.entitledto.co.uk is a good website to check out if you can get any support without having to increase your hours immediately.

TempyBrennan · 02/08/2023 08:36

Just another hand hold here OP. Hope you can enjoy sometime with your children before the weekend

FancyFran · 02/08/2023 08:36

You sound so much better this morning OP. A chum of mine @rockingbird gave good advice. She has been a marvel on another long standing thread. She moved post separation and is the queen of DIY. She's creating a new home for her DC.
Personally I am not a fan of staying in the martial home long term. It depends on the equity of course but I would rather have a small cottage that was mine than walk around a big house that someone else makes claim to even if it's not until the kids go to university. We are all different though. My BFF has a 'house of skirt'. No men allowed. It all white, chandeliers and gold mirrors, candles etc. No man would live there and that's the point.
I'd still send you're brothers round if you have any!

BestofLuck · 02/08/2023 08:43

I’m sorry you’re going through this OP. Glad to hear you’ve managed some sleep. I think you’re right that with him out the way in other accommodation you’ll get the space you need to think, breathe and most importantly spend time with the DC. Am glad you know your worth. One step at a time. Wishing you luck for the remainder of the holiday.

ns87 · 02/08/2023 08:50

You are doing so well OP, he sounds awful.

Take it easy, lean on your loved ones xx

RuthTopp · 02/08/2023 09:13

Sorry to be the one to suggest this - if not already suggested , But have you had sex with him in that timescale ?
Best get yourself tested if you have.