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Dumped after 2 years because I have children

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Lilaclala · 22/07/2023 11:25

2 days ago I was dumped out of the blue by the man I was with for over 2 years. He was fully aware I had children from the start and never made it out to be a problem. He was the love of my life and I felt so lucky to have met him after my ex before him (father of my children) left me for a younger woman. He was kind, funny helpful, attractive and I honestly couldn't have asked for a better relationship. He always said he was committed and that he wanted a long term future with me and my 2 children. Recently we started discussing mortgages and moving in together etc and he seemed happy and positive about it. Then 2 days ago he came round in tears saying that he couldn't see a future with me and my children. He said he'd move in with me in a heartbeat but was worried he wouldn't enjoy his loss of freedom etc and everything he was giving up and that it would cause resentment. Its just so sudden and I feel so confused, hurt and let down. I'm 38 and worried I will never meet someone I love as much as him...

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painochocolate · 10/08/2023 18:50

It's fair enough. It's not for everyone. He bailed before the commitment of a house so you're lucky there in a way or it would be more of a mess to untangle

painochocolate · 10/08/2023 18:52

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 12:35

Yeah but surely a relationship and feelings shouldn't be so fragile. If you properly love and care for someone then you should be willing to do what it takes to make things work...not just give up at the first hurdle. Relationships are about compromise. I know if the situation was reversed and it was him who had children and not me I would never have just abandoned him like this. I guess I was more emotionally invested in the relationship than him. He said he loved me but it can't have been very much. I find it hard to believe...

Yeah but surely a relationship and feelings shouldn't be so fragile. If you properly love and care for someone then you should be willing to do what it takes to make things work... that's your answer then. He wasn't as into you as you thought. 2 years is a good length of time to decide if you want to commit or not and he didn't.

IhearyouClemFandango · 10/08/2023 19:50

And that isn't a reason to break up with someone. He could have just said let's wait until we're financially in a better position.

He doesn't need to have what you deem a good enough reason. He is allowed to decide that it isn't for him. After 2 years is way better than after say, 10, when there are kids involved. It sucks and it hurts, but things do sometimes.

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 19:59

You lot are not getting the point. Its the timing and the fact that he really led me on. He dumped me a week before our holiday we were due to go on as well.

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painochocolate · 10/08/2023 20:03

He dumped you before the holiday. That's better than faking it through a holiday.

Wheretostartstitching · 10/08/2023 20:06

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 18:07

To be honest, I don't completely agree with that. I'm just talking from my own perspective/brain and what I can imagine myself doing in that situation. If I was that attached to someone, and if I genuinely couldn't imagine my life without that person I would not just give up on them due to the fact that they had children. At 40 it's kind of expected anyway, as I've already said. It's not like he's 25. If he doesn't want to be with someone who's got children at his age he's considerably narrowing his options.

Tbh I don’t understand how you think you having children isn’t a big deal.

You say you can’t imagine writing someone off ‘just because they have kids’ but what if you really didn’t want to raise someone else’s children or be a step parent.

You love someone a huge amount, but you also really don’t want to be a step parent. Are you really saying you put yourself in a position as a step parent, when you actually don’t want to be one…because you think love will conquer all and it will be fine.

That would be really unfair and cruel on all the children involved. Maybe you wouldn’t mind being a step mum. But you must be able to understand, that some people really don’t want to be. And they know becoming one will ultimately lead to theirs, yours and the kids unhappiness.

and telling someone ‘well most people have kids at 40, so you will probably have to a step parent or your saying pool down’ doesn’t make want people to be a step parent. Anyone who thought ‘hmmm don’t really fancy a blended family. But most women my age have kids so might as well stay with this woman and grudgingly become a step parent’ doesn’t stay because they love you.

Its because they think they have no options.

Wheretostartstitching · 10/08/2023 20:08

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 19:59

You lot are not getting the point. Its the timing and the fact that he really led me on. He dumped me a week before our holiday we were due to go on as well.

But you are saying that he didn’t lead you on and he decided this over night?

The timing doesn’t really matter. Would you have preferred him to go on holiday with you all the while knowing, a week before he decided to end it.

Would it really feel better if you had a nice holiday and the he dumped you the day after you came back?

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 20:16

No of course not....but we'd only booked the holiday a few weeks beforehand and he had seemed very up for it. My children were very disappointed it goes without saying.

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IhearyouClemFandango · 10/08/2023 20:34

Did he lead you on or just change his mind? A slow fade seems like it would be cruel too. Sounds like a casual relationship was good, then he tried to throw himself into more and more commitment before hitting a wall and realising he couldn't do it/didn't want it enough.

It doesn't sound like you took this relationship particularly slowly and your littlest is still very little.

painochocolate · 10/08/2023 20:36

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 20:16

No of course not....but we'd only booked the holiday a few weeks beforehand and he had seemed very up for it. My children were very disappointed it goes without saying.

It sounds like it was the catalyst for him to address his feelings.

Wheretostartstitching · 10/08/2023 21:14

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 20:16

No of course not....but we'd only booked the holiday a few weeks beforehand and he had seemed very up for it. My children were very disappointed it goes without saying.

But why wouldn’t he book a holiday with you?

If he changed his mind, as you said, overnight and ended it the next day then he wasn’t leading you on.

If he changed his mind overnight, then there was no reason for him not to book it weeks before.

Couldn’t you have gone on holiday with your kids anyway?

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2023 21:24

But we ARE getting your point. We all just disagree with your reasoning. You say it was a 'sudden bolt of lightning' decision. We're saying, many of us from past experience, that it was not 'sudden' for him.

Think about relationships you've had that you ended. Weren't there doubts before you broke off? Didn't you 'play along' or at least keep the doubts quiet until you were absolutely sure about needing to get out? Even if you pushed those doubts down, you knew they were still there. Or perhaps a friend's relationship she confided in you about. I can guarantee you that my abusive exH was absolutely gobsmacked when I told him I wanted a divorce. But in reality I had been 'playing along' whilst building up to it for months. If you had asked him, he would have told you it was 'so sudden' and that 'I didn't try hard enough'. But I knew better. And obviously I'm not saying your relationship was abusive in any way. But it's no different in that I was thinking about it for a far longer time than he ever knew about.

And the fact that there are now TWO things that might have been weighing on him (moving in AND a joint holiday) could very well be the reason why he chose this particular time to 'dump you'. It all simply became too much, and the future became 'too real' for him.

As far as 'leading you on' by looking at houses and seriously planning a future, if he had serious doubts, then yes he did. He was 'future faking', letting you believe 100% in something he did not believe 100% in. That was very unfair of him. But it's probably something we all have done to some extent when we're trying to figure out whether or not someone is right for us.

I'm just talking from my own perspective/brain and what I can imagine myself doing in that situation. If I was that attached to someone, and if I genuinely couldn't imagine my life without that person I would not just give up on them due to the fact that they had children.

But that's YOU. Not everyone would do what you would do. Not to mention that since you still want him, naturally you'd tell yourself that you 'wouldn't give up'. Because that is what you want him to do. But what if he had told you that you needed to send your children away, because he wanted you but not them. Would you really have 'not given up on him' in that situation? No matter how 'attached' you were to him, you know that you would have NEVER done that because it would have been anathema to you. It would have gone against everything you are. He's made the same decision 'in reverse'.

And it may very well be that he really tried to put/see himself into the 'stepfather' role but in the end just couldn't do it. As I said before, you can love someone to distraction but that doesn't mean that they are right for you. If he doesn't want children (whether now or ever), or perhaps doesn't want stepchildren, then he shouldn't force himself into a relationship where they are involved, no matter how much he may love the woman he's involved with. I chose to never date men with children because I didn't want to be a stepmother. I'm lucky in that I discovered it early on, after a 'non-serious' relationship with a man with kids. But there was a period of time between 'Is this what I want' and 'No, it's not'. The difference is I never 'future faked' by sitting and spinning dreams with this man.

But the bottom line is that he HAS made this decision and you will simply have to accept that no matter how you may disagree with it, it is his life and he had the right to make that decision. In the end he didn't owe you anything, except perhaps a sincere apology for wasting your time and breaking your heart. And all the 'what ifs' and 'I think he should haves' are doing you absolutely no good. It is what it is. You need to put your energy towards moving on, not towards dissecting every thing he said and did, picking it apart, and comparing it with 'what you would have done'. If he didn't explain it to you clearly when he broke off with you, you'll never know his true feelings. Don't waste another iota of your emotional energy on him and on questions that will never be answered. Put that energy towards yourself and your children.

Are you still able to take the holiday, just you and your children?

Lilaclala · 10/08/2023 21:29

No, the holiday has been and gone now. I don't drive. He did at least give me the money back for it.

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Vretz · 10/08/2023 22:36

It's tough but you'll soldier on. I ended with a woman after 2yrs because she couldn't hack the age of my youngest DC, despite having her own DC 18 months older than my youngest.

I never worked out the logic, and she openly admitted she wouldn't have taken her own situation on in the dating world, and couldn't see the hypocrisy.

You'll go mad trying to work it out. Just chalk it up as "not for him" and move on.

BackAgainstWall · 10/08/2023 22:42

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Letting your kids down regarding the holiday is pretty crap of him too.

Onwards and upwards you will be okay.

startingover202 · 10/08/2023 22:43

I'm just talking from my own perspective/brain and what I can imagine myself doing in that situation. If I was that attached to someone, and if I genuinely couldn't imagine my life without that person I would not just give up on them due to the fact that they had children.

Love does not conquer all. Especially if you're the one doing the sacrifice.

I has a family member who was with his partner for 10 years. Both worked full time and shared everything including rent bills rent etc.

She left him and he had to downsize his flat and found paying for bills more expensive on his own. He still had money to save and pay for holidays and extras

He got into a long distance relationship with a single mum who did not work.
He decided to get a job in her town so he could live with her believing bills would be split like his previous relationship.

Once he moved to his new not so well paying job and moved in with her he did not realise until it was too late, she lost all her benefits and he was paying so much more to support her and her 3 kids.

Scraping by and constantly dipping into savings and having no life outside working and taking care of kids that weren't his took it's toll.
Resentment sets in.
He stopped having a social life, gave up his hobby, couldn't afford a night away let alone a holiday.

He thought she'd keep her benefits as he was not the dad.
He was wrong.

He left after a year. She did not understand why.

IhearyouClemFandango · 11/08/2023 06:54

startingover202 · 10/08/2023 22:43

I'm just talking from my own perspective/brain and what I can imagine myself doing in that situation. If I was that attached to someone, and if I genuinely couldn't imagine my life without that person I would not just give up on them due to the fact that they had children.

Love does not conquer all. Especially if you're the one doing the sacrifice.

I has a family member who was with his partner for 10 years. Both worked full time and shared everything including rent bills rent etc.

She left him and he had to downsize his flat and found paying for bills more expensive on his own. He still had money to save and pay for holidays and extras

He got into a long distance relationship with a single mum who did not work.
He decided to get a job in her town so he could live with her believing bills would be split like his previous relationship.

Once he moved to his new not so well paying job and moved in with her he did not realise until it was too late, she lost all her benefits and he was paying so much more to support her and her 3 kids.

Scraping by and constantly dipping into savings and having no life outside working and taking care of kids that weren't his took it's toll.
Resentment sets in.
He stopped having a social life, gave up his hobby, couldn't afford a night away let alone a holiday.

He thought she'd keep her benefits as he was not the dad.
He was wrong.

He left after a year. She did not understand why.

Yes, I agree.

Lilaclala · 15/08/2023 15:23

I have recently seen a new girl added to his Facebook friends. Although this could be nothing and I could be reading too much into it, this has set me back even more and has made me imagine all sorts. I know I am nowhere near ready to meet anyone else now. My head is just a complete mess.

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Guiltyfeethavegotnorhythm0 · 15/08/2023 15:29

Really you need to stay away from his facebook . You need to wipe him from your life , it's the only way you will move along with your life , do it for your children .

Lefteyetwitch · 15/08/2023 15:31

You shouldn't even be looking at his Facebook.
Maybe he is ready for dating. That has no effect on you.
You're desperately trying to paint him as some villain but you have got to work on some healthy coping skills.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/08/2023 22:15

@Lilaclala

1 - stay away from his FB. All you're doing is picking at the wound. If he has a 'new girl' then that just proves that his decision wasn't 'sudden' at all, doesn't it?

2 - the last thing you need to do is 'meet anybody else'. You have a LOT of work to do on yourself before you even consider entering the dating pool! Don't jump from the frying pan into the fire.

madeinmanc · 15/08/2023 22:53

So sorry 😞 heartbreak is so painful. Are you looking after yourself and talking it through irl?

BackAgainstWall · 15/08/2023 23:11

Like others have said, you really must stop torturing yourself by looking at Facebook or any social media.

All it serves to do is set you back in time from healing.

You will be ok 💐

Lilaclala · 12/09/2023 12:53

Its been 8 weeks now and I'm still not feeling any better at all I just feel so, so low. I would literally do anything to have him back. Why is the pain not easing? I literally can't see a future....

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IslaSkywalker · 12/09/2023 12:58

Lilaclala · 12/09/2023 12:53

Its been 8 weeks now and I'm still not feeling any better at all I just feel so, so low. I would literally do anything to have him back. Why is the pain not easing? I literally can't see a future....

Think about the football shirts all lined up, horrible farting, skid marks in his Calvins and not wiping up when he's pissed on the toilet seat and realise you can do better.