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My boyfriend's ex girlfriend is living in his mortgaged house, what can i do??

172 replies

Foodx123 · 29/06/2023 23:07

So, this is strange, and I've been thinking about it a lot lately since I received a lovely £1200 British gas bill for only 6 months of power.....

To cut a long story short... My partner and I began dating 15 months ago. We went through a lot of ups and downs, split up, talked things out, declared our love for each other, and so on. However, there is one thing I can't seem to get off my chest, and it's becoming worse, and talking about it with my partner is proving impossible. He has a 2018 ex-girlfriend who moved into his mortgaged house in 2020. He moves around a lot because of his job and needed a tenant. Three years later, she is still living in his two-bedroom house with a lovely garden, and my boyfriend will come fix everything and do all the maintenance because it is, after all, his home. But there's a catch... he's never actually there, and for the past 24 months we've dated, he's continued to pay half the mortgage and bills, which seemed reasonable at first - fair enough. When my daughter is with her father, he stays at my place. My flat is entirely electric, I am a single mother, a paramedic student, and I spend a lot of time thinking about the cost of living crisis. I pay private rent, and my monthly outgoings for rent and energy are £850, which has risen to nearly £1200 when it has been really cold and my PAYG meter reached £450. I've never asked for anything since he would buy me things, meals, and when I used to get unhappy about his ex paying a stupid amount of £350 a month for her share of the rent and energy, he would say that he would help but couldn't really afford to due to paying for two homes. I urged him to ask for more because he is never there and technically pays half her laundry and her daily shower! He tried, she didn't think the deal was unreasonable, and she said he can show up whenever he wants, so it's definitely fair. I calculated that he had spent only around 14 nights there since we had dated as there has been no need. If he was not in his flat 60 miles away, he stayed with me on weekends. She's a band 6 on her way to a 7 in the NHS, and he claims she's got debt, but how is that his problem? He is far too kind and says she is a great friend and is always there for him... I wonder how genuine it is at times. I've had to meet her a few times and she's lovely but she's getting an amazing deal. Yeah, she's nice to him, but I adore him, and he doesn't always recognise red flags, which worries me. The worst thing is, they dated for about 6 months in 2018 and she ended things for various reasons, but they had a holiday abroad planned, went on this holiday, and apparently she was evidently flirting with this other man who wanted to date her, and someone "intentionally" put them in the same room together, and to this day my partner has no idea what happened, he never asked but they ended dating so I am presuming they slept together. I already had a few issues with friendships with ex's however I had to get over this because she is part of their friendship group. My bigger issue is why is his ex, with whom he doesn't have children, paying £350 a month for a house that would rent for around 750/800 easily, while I spend each month worried that I won't be able to find a house with a nice garden for my daughter to enjoy because I am only a student. I've expressed my feelings, but he has no plans to act on them. I'm not saying throw her out, but if he truly loves me, why wouldn't he do anything about it while his girlfriend struggles and the woman who essentially broke his heart has her best life while everyone else is battling with a cost of living crisis!! I simply don't know what to do or say. I'm also concerned that he is being taken advantage of by her and is unaware of it. Also, can I just add I did not find out about this until a few months in as I knew he had a couple of friends who are ex's and I did not really want to know at the time.

What would you do???? I cannot help but imagine my life if I had that house to myself with my beautiful daughter instead of her. :(

OP posts:
Theos · 30/06/2023 06:36

why are there parties at the house his ex gf has that you are invited to

Motnight · 30/06/2023 06:38

Foodx123 · 30/06/2023 00:41

Right - now I've thought about and everyone thinks I'm mad and jealous and irrational. I've come to the conclusion that I am not jealous of her. I am majorly pissed off at him.

He charges her nothing in comparison to what I pay - fair enough he shouldn't pay me anything and that's why I have never asked for anything. Yes I think she should pay the utilities because the bill he gets each month is based on what's been used - by her.

When he is here I do everything and he has way surpassed the role of "guest". Because I don't have a dishwater it's his excuse to not wash up. I've been sad countless times when I've gone to bed and the kitchen is a tip and I wake up the next day not knowing what where to start being too tired the night before after we've yet again had dinner at 11pm because he's been sitting there doing something majorly important or back late. Oh and I make dinner. Really nice meals too for gods sake. When I'm sad the next day he says that I don't give him a chance to come and clean at MIDDAY. I am up at bloody 8am and I don't want to sit in my living room which is also the kitchen area with dirty plates and having to rummage around finding clean bowls for my child's breakfast. Sad sometimes I genuinely think there is something wrong with him. How can you ask someone time and time again for help and get nothing in return. The bare minimum. But then I guess I have something wrong with me too cos I been putting up with this.

I'm going to consider ending this relationship. My anger with his ex stems from his lack of helping me and I'm not talking financially.

I think that there's a lot to unpick here. But - you aren't happy and he's not willing to change things. That's the main point. Good luck Op.

BamBamBambi · 30/06/2023 06:48

Just get rid.. who lets their ex live in their house and pays half of the utilities.

He clearly has a masssive soft spot for her and still has feelings.

Not sure why you put up with it for 2 years.

Willmafrockfit · 30/06/2023 06:51

what do you think you should do and why?

BeautifulWar · 30/06/2023 06:52

It's none of your business what he does with his house, same as it's none of his business whatever payment arrangements you have with your ex!

If you want him to contribute for the time he spends at your home, that's fine and if he refuses, then you deciding to bin him is also fine.

What's not fine is your evident jealousy and bitterness towards his ex's job and presumed finances. It's not her problem you're a single parent or that you feel your bf isn't contributing enough to your household!

surreyisik · 30/06/2023 06:56

"She is a great friend and is always there for him"
Oh boy. I think that's code for a lot of men / women that says "deep down I don't have the courage to let this person to move on and have a new life".
Bin him, this will always hangover your head, you need someone with no loose ends.

WilkinsonM · 30/06/2023 07:00

Foodx123 · 29/06/2023 23:19

Firstly, I was on PAYG with a different company and I switched to BG. They messed me about and produced a bill after a few months despite the fact I REALLY needed direct debit.

Also, he doesn't stay in that house ever. He has a separate flat he pays rent and bills for. He is paying "his half" and he is not there, he does not even need the house and it serves no purpose but he doesn't want to sell incase somehow he works back in that town. This isn't about me wanting to live with him, this is purely the principle of the situation and also how he would save so much more money if he did not even have that house. He's essentially mortgaged a house for his ex to live pretty much rent-free whilst he foots the bill. Oh, and his mail goes to his flat, not the house.

He lives in a THIRD property??
he's a total div for not letting out the second room or giving her notice and letting it out to a family who would pay double the rent she pays. Why isn't he??

EliflurtleTripanInfinite · 30/06/2023 07:09

I've come to the conclusion that I am not jealous of her. I am majorly pissed off at him. I was thinking exactly that reading your posts. You're justifiably pissed off that he doesn't contribute when he's there, doesn't even clean up after himself which is really the least you can possibly expect from an adult. You've been focusing on the house and the ex, as the problem, because it's easier to blame her then to accept the man you love is taking the piss and acting like your house is a hotel (except he doesn't pay) and like it's your job to run round cleaning up after him. He'd only get worse if you lived together. If you're not ready to LTB, put a firm boundary in place, what does he need to start doing to continue to be welcome at yours? And enforce it he doesn't stick to it. You're probably going to get a heap more posts that your jealous and can't expect him to pay at yours as they haven't RTFT and don't realise the house isn't really the issue.

Freefall212 · 30/06/2023 07:13

He doesn’t owe you a house or a certain lifestyle. It seems you are mostly with him for what you thought you could get from him and when he hasn’t bought into your ‘a man is the plan’ you are mad.

He dated her for 6 months in 2018. This wasn’t a serious ex. You are jealous of her. I don’t know why you even know the ins and outs of all his finances and arrangements, it’s really none of your business. You can accept him as he is or decide he isn’t for you and move on. he gets to live his life how he wishes. Staying is wth him in the hopes he will give you this house is a terrible idea. Do you actually love him or just his money you thought you would get?

You and only you are financially responsible for your own life and that of your daughter.

EliflurtleTripanInfinite · 30/06/2023 07:17

sometimes I genuinely think there is something wrong with him. How can you ask someone time and time again for help and get nothing in return. The bare minimum.
I thinks it entitlement plus upbringing, but I'd love to know if you find a better explanation. Stbxh also Disney Dad of our DC is like this, though he wasn't this bad till we had DC. It's even worse getting no help when they're his children too. All I can figure is stbxh learnt this dynamic growing up, I have seen over the years the daughters pitch in, as did I, and the sons do bugger all. When you're exhausted and struggling and the person who is supposed to love you won't pitch in even a little to help you you end feeling resentful and angry and deeply hurt. It does a lot of damage to you and they don't ever do better because they don't see any problem with the way they're behaving.

MossCow · 30/06/2023 07:25

Regardless of the showers and the candles, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a man who just sat there on Christmas Day whilst his mother cleared the table. It's an indication of him putting himself above other people.

I've got a friend whose husband doesn't lift a finger and I honestly can't go there for dinner any more. It makes me so uncomfortable and I hate seeing the way he treats her.

nevynevster · 30/06/2023 07:27

24 months is not that long, especially as you have a DC in the picture.
He doesn't live with you, he doesn't "owe" you anything unless you want to ask for contributions to your bills on the days he stays over given your financial circumstances.
You need to stop thinking about his situation. You have to manage your finances without him and stop imagining what it would be like if you had access to his money or property income. Your life sounds really tough so I get it but he may not be here for the long term and he has a very unstable lifestyle so I'd caution against letting your DD too attached.

I agree with you that this situation is very odd, and I don't quite understand why he's being so accommodating to his ex. But it's just not your house and not your battle to fight

WilkinsonM · 30/06/2023 07:27

Just caught up with all your posts OP
He's a shit partner! Don't move in with him FGS. You'd be permanently angry.

ZenNudist · 30/06/2023 07:29

Sorry but this makes no sense .

You have a boyfriend of 2 years. He's away a lot. He owns a house and a flat. The house is occupied with a below market rent tenancy. He's telling you he can afford to contribute towards a third house (yours).

Stop going on about his ex. It's not the issue here and makes you sound unhinged.

You seem to think he's not still with her so no issue there although it does sound like he's still in some kind of relationship if they live together.

If he's spending a lot of time at yours and that's costing you more money then he needs to contribute. If he's not interested in moving in together to share costs then ditch him so you have a chance of finding someone who does want to share a life with you.

If times are tough have you considered getting a lodger? Would they fit? You could start spending time at your DPs place then to share costs more equally that way.

NotNowGertrude · 30/06/2023 07:32

You have raised this with him but he isn't listening. He's obviously not bothered about whether you're happy with this situation or not, so you have no choice but to end it & find a partner who respects you

Gazelda · 30/06/2023 07:37

I'm think it's time to end the relationship. If you're feeling generous and want to give him the whole reason, then I'd stick to how he's taking advantage of you in terms of not contributing to the upkeep of your home while he stays there so regularly.

He costs you about £10 per week, so I wouldn't mention that because you say he treats you in other ways eg meals out etc.

He has an arrangement with his ex that is financially illogical, but I wouldn't mention that either because it's irrelevant to your situation. The only issue around the ex I'd mention is that he accommodates her needs, but doesn't do the same for you, therefore you feel as though her needs are more important to him than yours.

End it. Don't let him tell you he'll change, things will get better, he's doing his best etc. None of this will happen.

He's not the one.

ZenNudist · 30/06/2023 07:39

Just read your updates. Just end it. He's treating you like a slave. What a user. Your life will be better without him in it.

Arewehumanorarewecupboards · 30/06/2023 07:43

What do you want him to do with the house?
Sell it?
Kick her out and have it empty?
Kick her out and you move in?

JeandeServiette · 30/06/2023 07:45

Kerfuffler · 29/06/2023 23:38

Just show him this thread as it explains exactly how you feel - it should all resolve itself pretty fast.

GrinWink

waterlego · 30/06/2023 07:48

You’ve only been together 24 months and already you’ve had ‘lot of ups and downs, split up, talked things out’.

In your initial posts you talked a lot about money and how it’s a struggle for you and not fair because the ex is able to live cheaply in your partner’s house. But then later you’ve backtracked and said it isn’t about the money and actually your partner doesn’t lift a finger to help around the house when he stays with you.

I don’t really see any of this magically getting better, do you? You sound pretty unhappy.

The early years of a relationship should be all about the romance and fun and spending time together falling in love. If there have been so many problems already so early on, I don’t think it’s going to last.

Dibbydoos · 30/06/2023 08:23

His house is his problem, OP.

I don't know him but he sounds like he needs a bit of metal in him. He has a house and rents a flat? Why? It's madness.

He probably doesn't have a tenancy agreement in place with his Ex, so whilst it might be tricky legally speaking to ask her to leave, that's what he needs to do.

ThursdayFreedom · 30/06/2023 08:47

arethereanyleftatall · 30/06/2023 00:19

Ah, cross post. So, he costs you £2.50 per week. I don't think I'd be asking for that op.

@arethereanyleftatall

well, OP says he only stays when DD is at her Dads & OP's boyfriend is Dr so I presume shift work, he's only going to be costing her maybe £5 a month?!

@Dibbydoos because he works in Wales & the flat is in the midlands I think that's correct, too far to commute anyway).

she's a lodger, not tricky at all to serve her notice, but why should he? He has someone looking after his house while he can't live in it & he's happy with the arrangement.

OP is a girlfriend he spends the night with a couple of times a month, her choice is to stay with him or bin him. Not control what HE does, with HIS house.

ThursdayFreedom · 30/06/2023 08:49

ZenNudist · 30/06/2023 07:39

Just read your updates. Just end it. He's treating you like a slave. What a user. Your life will be better without him in it.

@ZenNudist

He stays a couple of nights a MONTH, how much housework & bill
paying exactly do you think he should be responsible for? OP could go to his flat in Wales instead.

ThursdayFreedom · 30/06/2023 08:56

Wallywobbles · 30/06/2023 06:21

Why don't you move in to to his house with the ex girlfriend. That way he stays in the house he owns. You're not supporting 3 households between the 2 of you, but just 1. Massive savings for everyone.

Bonus points if she moves out.

@Wallywobbles

clearly you haven't read the OP's posts?

Iamnotworthy · 30/06/2023 08:59

I wouldn't put up with that. He's basically saying her feelings are more important to him than yours.

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