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Just found condoms in husband's bag

198 replies

girlfromtheloch · 27/06/2023 20:54

This isn't the first time. Expiry date is 2024 so they must have been purchased in the last 5 years from what I understand. We've been together for 11 years. We're married with two children.
The relationship is over for me now. Is there anything I need to do before I confront him on this? He is likely to be at his computer working until late tonight so I have time to work this out in my head a bit. I feel numb at the moment.

OP posts:
Yupiknowhowthatfeels · 27/06/2023 23:24

I would do the above things though. I'd gather the passports and marriage certificate.
I'd also get copies of all financials that you can easily find.
Read about the Imerman case. My own very excellent family lawyer advised me about this but was not too concerned as I had put my hands on financial documents that were not particularly hidden in any way.
Be aware that proving fault is only for your peace of mind and sanity. Divorce law doesn't take fault into account at all. Even if he is a cheating prick.

Yeahyeahno · 27/06/2023 23:25

You are married. It’s not his house it’s both of yours. As is the other house you own.

SylvanianFrenemies · 27/06/2023 23:28

CherryCokeFanatic · 27/06/2023 21:45

Could he be engaging in a posh wank at the gym or in the car or something?

Come on. This seems to be pretty much an mumsnet invention.

momtoboys · 27/06/2023 23:28

I’m sorry you are going through this.

determinedtomakethiswork · 27/06/2023 23:28

CherryCokeFanatic · 27/06/2023 21:45

Could he be engaging in a posh wank at the gym or in the car or something?

Oh for God's sake! It's hard enough, getting a lot of men to put a fucking condom on in the first place without them going to the shop, buying them, parking in the car in a strange area and having a wank into one. And to be honest, if he's a sort of man who does that then why would she want him?

YukoandHiro · 27/06/2023 23:30

Sunnydaysaredefhere · 27/06/2023 21:37

Open a packet.. Tip some chilli powder in. Reseal as best you can. Bet he won't notice until it's too late...

Don't do this. Tempting as it is, it really isn't fair to the woman involved (who may have no idea he's married) to risk a condom failure by tampering.

determinedtomakethiswork · 27/06/2023 23:31

I'm really sorry, you found that. I have to say from experience that if he hasn't been careful then it's because it isn't the first time, as you know because of finding them before. He's getting a bit reckless, isn't he?

Get absolutely everything in order. I agree with the previous poster for children's school, uniforms and shoes and coats etc sorted before you confront him.

He is a complete idiot and you deserve so much better 💐

SmartHome · 27/06/2023 23:32

Posh wank what a fucking joke, have any men actually ever done this? They'd just use a cloth or a sock FFS.

MysteryBelle · 27/06/2023 23:36

Mumtothreegirlies · 27/06/2023 21:52

Whatever you do make sure it’s feels good. Don’t give him your tears or dignity.
if you can hold back for now and find a way to catch him in the act. Maybe get one of those apple tags in his car or jacket. If you run into him and catch him that will haunt him forever and he’ll remember the time his wife and mother of his children caught him cheating and will ruin any future encounters he has. You’ve got to damage him psychologically.

This is good advice, op. Because even though you know in your heart he is cheating and you do have some evidence, you should probably get evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt so that you are absolutely sure.

If you confront him now, he might deny it again and you’re left in limbo still. Wait until you’ve had someone follow him or do the apple tag or whatever it takes to really know the facts. Then you’ll know better how to proceed.

Caroparo52 · 27/06/2023 23:37

The big money is in his earnings.... can you get access to his company bank statements before you blow your cover?
Very sorry for your horrible sutuation op.
If it helps I am much happier now I'm divorced ( twice), and see no need to be troubled with a useless wanker ever again. Children are well adjusted and no longer think sun shines out his arse (with no imput from me).
It will be horrible and hell for a few years , but on the other side it is bliss.

Ellie4747 · 27/06/2023 23:39

I'm so sorry, this must be devastating. If you can keep yourself calm, I would try to think ahead about what he might do after you confront him, for example will he try to be difficult such withhold money etc then plan ahead to ensure you have the finances, will he be difficult, confrontational and refuse to leave the home? If so maybe wait until he's left the home before you tell him.
You know your husband better than us, he might be reasonable but if not think about what he may do and prepare yourself.
As others of said speak to lawyer it will also help to calm you down. But obviously emotions can take over so don't beat yourself up if you blurt it out.

allmyliesaretrue · 27/06/2023 23:51

ReadingSoManyThreads · 27/06/2023 23:16

Please do NOT prick holes in the condoms as suggested here. If he's using prostitutes this could be dangerous. It's dangerous regardless in terms of STD's. Bringing an innocent new baby into this situation is also a stupid thing to be semi responsible for.

I didn't say do it, I said I would be seriously tempted.

And I don't know why the fucker should be given any consideration. He doesn't deserve that.

Kugela · 27/06/2023 23:53

Is his accountant also your accountant? If not, you could ask your accountant to get relevant information from Companies House before he starts to hide the information you need.

Bringonthesunforthewashing · 27/06/2023 23:54

Such good advice here.

so sorry this happened op xxx

HundredMilesAnHour · 28/06/2023 00:01

Kugela · 27/06/2023 23:53

Is his accountant also your accountant? If not, you could ask your accountant to get relevant information from Companies House before he starts to hide the information you need.

If he's a limited company, his accounts etc will be on the Companies House website and the OP can check herself. She can also search his name on the website to see if he has any other directorships.

Tinysoxx · 28/06/2023 00:02

Anyone can look at Companies House. Type the name of your husband in it and it will show the name of the company and accounts. It won’t show where he’s squirrelled the money away.

Dibbydoos · 28/06/2023 00:13

I'm so sorry OP. I honestly have no idea why people are dishonest like this.🤯

Def do what others have said ref passports and bank paperwork.

You also need to know what is happening with his business. Are you a shareholder? Can you see the accounts? How does he sign off the accounts? If you cant access this info and he has a Limited Co, go onto Companies House website, search out his company and make note of his company number and accountants. Take as many sets of accounts listed, check details of shareholders.

Good luck OP. This must be so difficult 😞 Sending a hug.

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 28/06/2023 00:24

OP if you are in Scotland as your name suggests, you are entitled to 50% of the equity in your home regardless of who is on the deeds. If you owned your house before you were married and have never lived in it together then he isn’t entitled to anything.

ringsaglitter · 28/06/2023 00:35

Sunnydaysaredefhere · 27/06/2023 21:37

Open a packet.. Tip some chilli powder in. Reseal as best you can. Bet he won't notice until it's too late...

Don't do this. This is just weird.

NisekoWhistler · 28/06/2023 00:36

Well done with what moves you have made so far. Keep strong you're in my thoughts

Ladybird69 · 28/06/2023 00:39

My only advice is to get a shit hot lawyer I unfortunately didn’t and my ‘darling’ husband screwed me over. I lost practically everything, bastard.

T1Dmama · 28/06/2023 00:40

AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters · 28/06/2023 00:24

OP if you are in Scotland as your name suggests, you are entitled to 50% of the equity in your home regardless of who is on the deeds. If you owned your house before you were married and have never lived in it together then he isn’t entitled to anything.

Oh I really hope this is the case.

So sorry @girlfromtheloch , what a prick he is for ruining his family

Henrietta70 · 28/06/2023 00:41

Oh, it’s taking me back to nearly 6 years ago when I found out my husband was unfaithful with a “friend” and a colleague.

We met at University, and I was devastated.
25 years together imploded, my daughters aged 9 and 11 were distraught, and he still blamed me. He was angry to be caught out, slashed my neighbours tyres, and punched me on my doorstep, giving me a black eye.

It took 4 years for me to get an apology and we now have family meals with our daughters, and feed each others cats!!

From my experience I’d say, collect yourself, get things in order, get the documents you need, and then go for a walk and tell him you know what has been happening and it is over between you.

You must settle on agreeing to parent your children as amicably as possible, not fight. I am from divorced parents, so I know how it feels as a child to be caught in the middle.

I know you are hurt and angry. He gaslit you last time. Don’t play into the angry emotional role. That’s what he wants, you to seem irrational and nuts.

My ex kept saying you aren’t being reasonable, over and over. I stole all the friends!

You will get through this. You will be happy.
I am now. Happily single raising my children, having the odd relationship. Doing well at work.

It won’t be an easy first year, but you will be fine, and realise who your real friends are.
X

sausagedogpookie · 28/06/2023 01:09

Yupiknowhowthatfeels · 27/06/2023 23:12

Ownership matters not. You will have a claim on a good chunk of the equity in his house having lived there for 9 years.
He would also have a claim on your house but you might be able to ring fence it as a premarital asset. He would likely to the same with some of the equity in the family home.
Pensions
ISAs
Savings
All goes in the shared pot to be divided out. He cannot hide anything as the process of doing the financial order requires disclosure by law.
You will be fine. He will need to pay a good chunk of maintenance also.
My advice is think carefully about what's best for you and your kids. There's no 100% right answer.
Their dad has them very other weekend and one night in the week. This is undoubtedly best for the kids (in our case) as they have one main home base and I am their main parent. Some times I think it is best for me, and other times I think 50/50 parenting would make it easier to meet someone else. I literally have no time to date or much time for myself at all really.

He cannot hide anything as the process of doing the financial order requires disclosure by law’

Well…that’s how it’s supposed to work but you ask the vast majority of women who’ve been involved in divorce and you’ll know that’s not how it goes. Disclosure (especially by the self-employed, or higher earning,men) is usually made into an unnecessarily long,complicated and frustrating process where the law is often not upheld and the truth is squirmed around. After which they might get a figurative slap on the wrist from the judge (who can see something is financially amiss but no one can prove it) but their squirrelled away money never surfaces.
A forensic accountant can be a worthwhile expense if the financial figures and level of suspected deception justify it. It’s just naive to believe people in emotive and angry relationship breakdowns will play fair.

OP (and all women in this situation,hence the ubiquitous ducks-in-a-row advice) if you think you’re entitled to a share of something,you need to find it or pay someone to find it - don’t expect it to be offered up to you,the opposite will happen.
Wishing you strength to get through this - you and your children will be glad you did eventually.

truthhurts23 · 28/06/2023 01:19

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2023 22:55

I had condoms in my bag once after a work trip away. I told DH, explained and he was fine. It was a very funny story actually. Having them twice, getting evasive and bullshitting means he's a cheat.

Post wank my arse.

Why did you have condoms in your bag..🤔