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Strained relationship with dd

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AnyaMarx · 08/06/2023 02:18

I had my kids at 19 and 25 and had a brilliant relationship with them.

When my youngest went to uni I left my husband. I now realise this wasn't the best time for dd . I was thinking bows the time as they'd both left home - but it wasn't and I accept that.

My relationship with dd has been ok but not what it was .

She's stuck firmly by her dad . And that's fine - I left - I was the bad guy .

She is now almost 26 . Through guilt initially I said dh could keep the house and I rented . That was 8 years ago.

Now I have a critical illness . I've told dh I'm going to claim on our critical illness cover and then we can divorce and financially separate. He has a new girlfriend. I'm single . I live in a rented house and I cant sustain this . My illness is bad and debilitating- my plan was claim the insurance , he pays me out from that , he keeps the house , I get a shred ownership new build so I'm secure , pay less rent . He will still win financially.

I try not to involve the kids in these talks as they are adults and have moved out - dd just bought first house with her partner and ds lives abroad .

Tonight I got a text from dd - I've always tried to stay in touch , offering visits or her and her partner to stay over - never taken up. My illness is so bad at minute I can't drive .
I've asked dd for a phone call maybe once a week but she is too busy .

The text tonight said she feels I should walk away with nothing as I'm the one who left . She feels her dad is being "done over " if I ask for any financial settlement. I bit . I argued back . I said he will keep the house - I just want to claim the Insurance so I can get a shared ownership place that's secure - my job is at risk and if that goes I can't afford my rent . She's said she doesn't want to speak to me over phone , messages are enough , she's busy , etc etc .

I'm heartbroken. I get she feels I'm the bad guy . But I asked her what she wants and what she'd be happy with ? I asked do I live in my car if I can't work and c t pay my rent ? She said I was the one who left and I should leve everything as it is with her dad as he must "be terrified " - I mean seriously even if I had t got this illness I've pud a mortgage since 1993 - I'd only be asking for half - I wouldn't make him sell up - this seemed like a solution to me to claim the critical illness and he keep th house and get some cash - I don't get it .
He's obviously been talking to her

My sister is furious with me for biting - she says let her vent , tell her we will sort it between dh and I and say nothing more .she says young people do t do phone calls these days and just let her message without pestering for a call .

I've been virtually bed ridden for months - she's never come to see me . I've kept her updated without being a drama queen but I know both her and my ex dh think I'm attention seeking and there's nothing wrong with me . He reluctantly sent me the insurance details for the critical illness policy we have in the mortgage.

I don't get it .
If I claim in that (subject to a diagnosis which I've almost got now ) I've said if he just gives me 42k from that (so I can put a 25% down on a shared ownership ) he can keep the rest and the house ! Yet I'm the bad guy ?

I've paid all our debt ! It took 6 years! I paid it all! I've been in poverty to do that .

Dd thinks I should leave everything alone because I left . I had a relationship after leaving and while I was with someone I was comfortable so didn't pursue a divorce or settlement but I left that relationship (it was very abusive ) and I've lived alone for 4 years - now I've got health issues I need to consider my future and get secure housing .

I've sat and cried . My sister says let her vent and ignore it . Everyone seems angry with me and honestly I've been nothing but reasonable! If I wanted to be a bitch I'd be making him sell up and give me half ! The more I try and be reasonable the more it seems to annoy everyone when I say I'd like something from the marriage (which is now 31 years!).

It seems the only way to make everyone happy is walk away with nothing .

My sister says stop arguing with dd . Say fine . Don't worry - we'll sort it .
Yes I know she's right but I bit tonight - I've not been able to drive or walk for 9 weeks now and counting and no one has helped me . I'm tired , I'll
And in pain . They don't believe me - but I'm on the verge of diagnosis and it's real ! (Rheumatoid arthritis most likely ) It's like they all think I'm being a drama queen and should shut up and fuck off .

I'm hurt . Feel let down . Whatever I do next - dd isn't going to be happy and will take dh side unless I walk away with nothing from a 31 year marriage. We married in 1991 and bought our first house in 1993 . I did everything. Had the kids at 19 and 25 - eldest had meningitis and was disabled and I did everything- worked , ran the house , shopped , -all the medical appointments and all the house admin and dh while a hard worker at his job did nothing to help me - everything was mine to sort . He had poor hygiene. He was impotent . I was 19 when we married . He isn't a saint - yet the kids seem to think he is and I'm the devil incarnate for leaving . I think I actually had a proper mental breakdown at that time and I ran .

Now I don't know what to do .

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Teder · 29/06/2023 08:51

whumpthereitis · 24/06/2023 09:05

Sometimes apologies aren’t enough. Apologies don’t undo the harm caused, and they don’t oblige forgiveness. Sometimes people do indeed try to forgive and move on, but find themselves unable to do so despite their best efforts.

There’s a clearly a lot of pain here that runs very deep, and the story here is likely to read very differently from the perspective of your daughter.

That is something that, for your own sake, you’re going to need to try and come to terms with.

I agree with this.
I remember your posts under previous names
and I’ve been on MN as long as you under different names. I know you’ve had a tough time and I cannot imagine how hard it has been for you and your family.
I think the impact of the last few years is probably the cause of your daughter’s actions.
Right now, I’d give her time and space but let her know you are available when you are ready.
When there has been a history of a loved one who has been drinking alcohol to excess, it is often actions not words that can help heal a relationship. My loved one abused alcohol and the relationship did eventually repair but I needed to see them for a very sustained period not drinking at all and engaging with all the support and recognising the impact their drinking had in the past. We do have a better relationship now so it is possible! My loved one did a lot of hard work over a long period of time though, and I waited until I could trust them.

BodegaSushi · 29/06/2023 10:07

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 29/06/2023 00:10

Quadruple-posting rants near midnight doesn't do much for your sobriety claims...

💯 this. Literally proves the point some are trying to make on here by almost talking to herself.

Please get yourself help.

PinkFrogss · 29/06/2023 11:08

OP it’s been clear for some time that you need help (both legal and medical) that is above MN’s pay grade. I questioned months ago if these threads are really helpful to you, and this thread isn’t doing much to disprove that thought.

AnyaMarx · 29/06/2023 12:04
  1. I work shifts so post at all hours and I do t sleep well due to I presume menopause and years of shifts

2). I switched to alcohol free drinks if I do want a "grown up" drink - and wi E is vile but the fins and Guinness are ok .

  1. I've got a solicitor lined up im just waiting to see if I can claim on the critical illness insurance first . As well as the RA My first ever mammogram has picked something up so having that investigated too . Claiming for cancer would be easier than claiming for RA . ((Being practical and pragmatic doesn't mean im drunk btw ) and no I have not mentioned that to anyone yet because until I know there's no point.

I will leave the thread now and name change so thanks to those who were helpful.

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