Nursery staff making my son sick?

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This might sound so dark/strange, but I have gut intuition here that the current setting my son is at, is making him sick.. literally vomit..

A bit of background - we have decided to keep my son on into the prep school, he will
start reception from sept and they don’t want him to (some of the staff) there is a 3 is a crowd scenario with my son and another boy who’s mum is a teacher..

i think a few things have happened and they haven’t told me - the nursery staff are so clicky and awful.. but right now he has a few friends and seems relatively happy..

we have no other option as we don’t live close by to any other school/s unless we move home..

I have spoken with them and they keep saying everything is ok.. since accepting a place in Reception - he has been sick multiple times and had a frequent fever - I am having him checked at the hospital..

what on earth do I do?!

I don’t have trust right now.. do I pull him out? We stand to lose a place and don’t have anything else..

it’s a major safeguarding issue that I feel is at play.. but I have nothing to prove at all.. only teaching assistants avoiding me at pick up.. no idea what has happened..

Op where do you live that there isn't a single primary school with commutable distance except one private prep? I find that hard to believe.

Next time he's ill, take him to a&e and tell them you think he ingested something.

Or try to get an emergency appt with your GP and ask if he's able to run some blood tests next time he's ill.

But if you TRULY think they're trying to make your kid sick / kill him then you need to report it and get the appropriate support.

If this is real . Then how do you know it's not something at home making him sick or a reaction to certain foods?

Also why not put him in a primary school that's not private. You will definitely have some in your area

It’s very unlikely that they’re deliberately harming your child, much more likely that he’s just been poorly and keep picking up new bugs before he managed to fully recover. You need to speak to someone about your thoughts… they’re a bit irrational

No. There is no relationship between pica and autism. I am so so tired of the complete and utter nonsense about autism that I read on MN.

OP there's a link between autism and gut issues.
I'd explore that with your GP/specialist, get another setting you feel comfortable with and also get some support for yourself as it sounds like you're spiralling a bit.

So they don't want your child to stay on with them, and you think they may be harming him?

Get him out immediately! Surely there's another school somewhere that you can find a place for him at? Nothing is more important than his safety!

Sorry Florissant but there's a well-documented relationship between pica and autism.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi4sv2xx43_AhWLi1wKHShJBNEQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.autismspeaks.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2018-08%2FPica%2520Parents.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1xBJ_J5iosbRqF9D4g5QW9

OP I think you need to see the GP for your mental health. I think it's highly unlikely the staff are deliberately making him sick. Children just get sick a lot in play school.

There is almost zero chance that several nursery staff are conspiring together to poison your child because he has friendship issues with a child they prefer.

Why do you think that the nursery staff don't want him to go to Reception?
Quite frankly, why would they care?

Op's use of the phrase "I wanna get them" is quite revealing. The cynic in me says she is using the poisoning angle to achieve this as the excuse that the staff are "clicky and awful is very flimsy and vague.

This is a highly unlikely scenario OP. I just want to reinforce that you need to take your concerns to the GP urgently and let them investigate. Please let them know what you are thinking.

If OP really is experiencing mental health issues, you really want to take down her thread, to remove what is possibly her only avenue to voice her intrusive thoughts to other mums and ask for the support she desperately needs?

If you think she is a troll, leave the thread. I'd rather assume another parent in extreme distress and try and support.

Lots of autistic children lick, mouth or eat non-food items.

OP if you genuinely and sincerely believe this, you need to go to your GP and tell them everything. You're possibly having a psychotic episode. My bipolar episodes sometimes make me suspicious of people (never quite to this extent).

My asd child hasn't been in school 4.5 weeks - 4 rounds of anti bios and been seriously unwell so much I took him to a and e at the w/e.

I have 4 children but he is always I'll - always got fevers getting infections. I think it's something to do with ASD and the energy they use just to exist in life.

He is always poorly my other 3 children are well. He's had bloods at the w/e to try and find out anything new.

What I'm saying some children can be more regular poorly than a typical NT child ....

No one is poisoning him - he just more prone to get poorly.

Good luck - visit your Gp asap

Do you have a partner or family that are close enough that you could trust their opinions on this? I really feel you need an outside perspective before you start throwing accusations like this about. Logically if the staff were going to start a campaign against him, it would be much easier and more effective to just make up behavioural incidents and get him expelled. Poisoning him or making him sick has much higher risks for them and doesn't promise the results they'd want.

I started having similar thoughts about the NHS purposefully causing me issues and denying me treatment to make me sick. Long story short it was the start of a psychotic episode. It did and still feels very real to me though. I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but the way we perceive the world around us sometimes doesn't match with the majority of people. You don't want to cause problems for yourself and your family because you're experiencing a different version of what's real to them.

errrr no... why would any nursery/member of staff harm one child because of friendship issues? That's nuts, sorry.

But if you genuinely your child is being harmed, move him and speak to your GP. That should be your priority, not having the nursery reprimanded. Such an investigation would be a long battle.

Seriously what is it with people like you? Mine got pulled yesterday for no reason! Probably through someone like you reporting and also why do you have to advertise the fact you have reported it? Says more about you if I'm honest.

So your son is consistently unwell at nursery for the past several months, and instead of taking him to the doctor and investigating what the problem is, you have immediately decided that the nursery staff are poisoning him?! Do you realise how bonkers that sounds and also how neglectful as a parent not to do Some proper medical investigations to see what the cause is?

Ok OP, let's assume you take him to the GP, and the GP diagnoses him with something as mundane as an ear infection, what do you do then? Are you going to continue to send him to school, or are you going to remove him, given that you seemingly have no trust in the staff at all?

I agree with the above few posters, either report or support. Don't be mean, gasp, or otherwise be awful to someone who might be genuinely experiencing some paranoid thoughts.

Just to say, though, you can get to having paranoid thoughts and intrusive thoughts without being fully psychotic, it can be a warning sign your mental health is about to nose-dive, so I think seeing the GP is an excellent idea.

As for the problem, the staff have reassured you that everything is ok and they wouldn't do that if they were plotting to remove your son, they'd suggest he move elsewhere. So, that makes me think that although you may be right that they are a bit cliquey, and they may not chat so much when you collect him, they are not trying to get him out of the school at all.

Mental health difficulties thrive in darkness, so tell your husband, partner, perhaps a family member and your GP or health visitor that you are worried about these things. They will help you formulate a plan both for dealing with your thinking and dealing with the nursery/school issue.

Good luck with it all.

Repeated illness is extremely common in nursery children. It’s also perfectly possible that your son is encountering something that upsets him in the home. Do you have pets, is your food hygiene good?

Do you really believe that all of the nursery staff and a teacher in the Prep school are conspiring to poison your child?

You need a conversation with your GP, such thoughts are really not normal. In the meantime, remove your child if that will relieve your anxiety.