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If you think your partner doesn’t have time for an affair, think again

883 replies

toooldforthisshite · 11/05/2023 18:44

They will find a way. Even the most seemingly gentle, respectable guy, you know, the one who everyone says ‘he would never’. They do.
They will invite their side bit to their work during work hours if necessary to avoid having to make excuses as to why they are late home. They will wait for you to fall asleep then start chatting to her. They will delete every message they receive or send.

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TucSandwich · 11/05/2023 20:16

Spookysnake · 11/05/2023 19:12

Nope.

Yep.

toooldforthisshite · 11/05/2023 20:23

All I’m saying is, don’t be naive to think it would never happen to you. You probably just don’t realise it probably already has.
let’s debunk some of the classic cheaters check list
‘secretive with phone’ - wrong, very open with it, wife and kids know code
‘working late’ - wrong, no change to hours
‘too tired’ wrong he will be awake as soon as you are sleep talking till 3am
‘unhappy home’ - wrong regular family holidays and weekends away
’lack of intimacy’ wrong still having sex and showing affection
‘no future hope’ - wrong lots of plans in the pipeline
’a bit of a flirt’ - wrong, very quiet, minimal social media activity, few friends
’finds excuses to leave the house’ wrong, always still present at home, sharing chores and kids pick ups and activities etc

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swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:23

This thread is a bit silly. “ALL” people don’t do anything. “Some” people do.

Ive had the opportunity to cheat a few times with work colleagues and my husband would have never known. They were very attractive men too. But I didn’t cheat, because that’s just not who I am at heart.

So, there you go- I am at least one person who didn’t take the opportunity to cheat even though I could have!

MrsRickAstley · 11/05/2023 20:24

Where there's a will, there's a way.

Applepie24 · 11/05/2023 20:24

So Sorry you are having a crap time!! Sending a hug

Lots of people cheat. Far more than people realise.

2 friends husband’s have tried it on over the years and I declined with a firm no - so hard to know someone you like is married to a real s*

So many people do these home DNA kits for fun and 1/10 have the parent not expected result. So lots of affairs happen.

But when you find a great partner you have to put things like this to one side ........not think the worst and enjoy life and take a risk and love someone! Life is more fun with two x

toooldforthisshite · 11/05/2023 20:25

"I'd like to see DH smuggle a sidepiece into a secure children's psychiatric unit, or court 😁."

well if a medical professional can fit in a shag between patients then it’s possible.

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LiliLil · 11/05/2023 20:26

It is a depressing read, but I agree that most men would cheat if they could get away with it.

I personally think that monogamy is a social concept, and it doesn’t come naturally. I think people have to choose and work at being faithful. I see it all the time at work, in friendship groups, my ex…I would never be so naive to say that my partner would never cheat on me.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 11/05/2023 20:26

Spookysnake · 11/05/2023 19:19

I can guarantee, 100% a high proportion of those people who say their OH would never cheat/has never cheated, are wrong.

I'm sorry that your experiences have left you so cynical about humanity.

Squareclock · 11/05/2023 20:26

swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:23

This thread is a bit silly. “ALL” people don’t do anything. “Some” people do.

Ive had the opportunity to cheat a few times with work colleagues and my husband would have never known. They were very attractive men too. But I didn’t cheat, because that’s just not who I am at heart.

So, there you go- I am at least one person who didn’t take the opportunity to cheat even though I could have!

I'd argue you haven't yet. Your opportunities didn't coincide with your worst day ever at work, a row with DH, a few drinks and come in the middle of a "what's it all about?" crisis or whatever would be the "right" circumstances for you.

Bargellobitch · 11/05/2023 20:27

I'm so sorry this happened to you. But you aren't going to gain anything or heal from making wild accusations that every single person will cheat. Just from a statistics point of view it makes no sense.

Lashing out at other because you are angry isn't the way.

Quitelikeit · 11/05/2023 20:27

I do agree with op that where’s there’s a will there’s a way

especially the thing where they hand the phone over to the wife and kids

Londontoderby · 11/05/2023 20:27

I understand why people are hitting back and saying “not everyone” “my guy would never”, but the truth is your right, they just don’t get caught most the time.

17 years together, never would have thought it, he was the worlds greatest guy….lied to my face too.

BuffaloFeathers · 11/05/2023 20:28

Squareclock · 11/05/2023 19:13

No, it just means they've never met the "right" combination of circumstances. Most people wouldn't cheat just because they can. Everyone one is capable of it when faced with enough driving factors.

Isn't that true for everything though? Given the right circumstances all of us are capable of carrying out the most atrocious of crimes, probably worse than cheating as well. The question is where does the threshold lie for individuals? I do think that in the most commonly occuring circumstances most people would not cheat.

Spookysnake · 11/05/2023 20:29

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 11/05/2023 20:26

I'm sorry that your experiences have left you so cynical about humanity.

Stop with the gaslighting, tyvm.

swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:29

Squareclock · 11/05/2023 20:26

I'd argue you haven't yet. Your opportunities didn't coincide with your worst day ever at work, a row with DH, a few drinks and come in the middle of a "what's it all about?" crisis or whatever would be the "right" circumstances for you.

You are wrong. I’ve had many rough patches with my husband as most people do. I just don’t see cheating as the solution to that is all. Sorry to disappoint you 🤷🏻‍♀️.

RunThroughTheJungle · 11/05/2023 20:30

CoronationKicking · 11/05/2023 20:02

"It turns out, I picked up on it the very day they sent message 1, I'm a witch!"

Sadly this is what they want you to believe. He'll have been shagging about aided by viagara or just claiming he's impotent to you, for some time. Takes a long time for it all to unravel.

Nope, I know the exact day it happened. I have proof. Plus she still won't sleep with him even though we've been done over 2 weeks, she has him dangled like a kipper. The sad schmuck!

I'm getting this, not from him, but someone he's confiding in.

Proudofitbabe · 11/05/2023 20:30

I tend to agree that anyone is capable, as cheating is really just acting on the natural human urge to get it on with someone you're attracted to. I think given the right circumstances any of us could give in to that. Some much more likely than others!

But I also think the threshold for actually wanting to cheat/risk the relationship will be very high in solid couples and there will be loads who never cheat or are even tempted.

Sorry you're having a shit time, OP.

toooldforthisshite · 11/05/2023 20:31

@Bargellobitch im not lashing out at anyone, I’m pointing out that just because things seems normal don’t be naive to think it’s not happening.

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gogohmm · 11/05/2023 20:32

Not all men.

Exh didn't and is finding dating annoying as it is, far too lazy to cheat

Squareclock · 11/05/2023 20:32

swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:29

You are wrong. I’ve had many rough patches with my husband as most people do. I just don’t see cheating as the solution to that is all. Sorry to disappoint you 🤷🏻‍♀️.

And as I said, a rough patch on its own won't be enough for most.

Lots of people will never cheat. Lots of people who are convinced they'll never cheat will. Loads of people look back on affairs as if it happened to someone else. When people say "they weren't the type", that's because they weren't, except for that period in their life when they were.

Johnisafckface · 11/05/2023 20:34

If they want to cheat they will find a way. Someone I know has cheated on his past two girlfriends. He would go by the OWs house on the way home from work. It only takes 30 mins to cheat (or less!)

Unless someone is with you 24/7, they can find that time to do it. And even then they can be emotionally cheating right in front of you via SM/texting (this happened to me a few times).

swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:35

Lots of people will never cheat

This is exactly my point. Lots of people have never cheated. Therefore it’s not accurate to say all people cheat is it? Is everyone capable of it? Probably. But everyone is also capable of murder- doesn’t mean everyone will though does it?

toooldforthisshite · 11/05/2023 20:36

@swayingpalmtree it’s not ‘ just a rough patch’ and someone smiles at them and hey presto. It’s more insidious than that.

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Squareclock · 11/05/2023 20:36

swayingpalmtree · 11/05/2023 20:35

Lots of people will never cheat

This is exactly my point. Lots of people have never cheated. Therefore it’s not accurate to say all people cheat is it? Is everyone capable of it? Probably. But everyone is also capable of murder- doesn’t mean everyone will though does it?

I haven't said everyone will cheat, but I do believe everyone will cheat with the right combination of circumstances for them.

Thefaceofboe · 11/05/2023 20:37

I’m sorry this has happened to you, but what an odd thread with really odd replies