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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Tereseta · 11/05/2023 20:29

CherryCokeFanatic · 11/05/2023 19:08

Any update OP?

Remember this is someone's real life not a soap for your entertainment

tensmum1964 · 11/05/2023 20:33

So sorry OP. What a dick he is. Wishing you all the best in your future x

ItsBritneyBitchhhh · 11/05/2023 20:37

The fact that this thread is nearly on 1K comments, just shows how much so many people love drama.

Sorry about your situation OP, he sounds like a lying bastard. Wishing you all the best

Chatillon · 11/05/2023 20:47

Projectionism.

Meeting · 11/05/2023 21:18

I appreciate I'm adding another post but people on this thread are so fucking selfish.

OP started this thread for help and people have literally nearly filled it up with their gossip hungry crap and begging for updates. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't update (if there's even any space left for her on her own thread). If you want entertainment watch/read something else and stop thriving odd of someone's misery.

Sailingaround · 11/05/2023 21:23

Askil · 11/05/2023 11:19

The posters that were telling OP to mind her own business, 'it's personal' and to refrain from 'gossip' are as thick as mince. That is not how couples operate.

Exactly. I don’t know why some were acting as if it’s so far fetched something untoward was going on. Hope this will make them wise up!

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 21:32

Sailingaround · 11/05/2023 21:23

Exactly. I don’t know why some were acting as if it’s so far fetched something untoward was going on. Hope this will make them wise up!

A few posters were so angry that OP was hassling her partner and he should be left to weep with his poor emotions.

It was laughable xx

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 21:33

I DID NOT MEAN TO PUT XX

Crikeyalmighty · 11/05/2023 21:57

@Meeting it's truly awful- it's not the next instalment of Corrie- it's someone's life.

Sailingaround · 11/05/2023 21:57

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 21:32

A few posters were so angry that OP was hassling her partner and he should be left to weep with his poor emotions.

It was laughable xx

Absurd! 🙄 Laughable indeed 😆

Sailingaround · 11/05/2023 22:10

And meant to say also well done OP. It can’t have been easy to confront the neighbour and cut things off with him again.

Many others on MN stick their heads in the sands and act as if anything short of seeing another woman in their bed is not enough proof.

You can’t have someone who seems to be living a double life around you and your kids. I suspect he may have ended up bringing trouble to your door if you let him stay. And it says a lot he didn’t put up much of a fight. Good luck for the future.

Sunflowergirl1 · 11/05/2023 22:12

She broke off the affair and he is left with you? Suggest you deal with his denials

ASBneighbour · 11/05/2023 23:46

@WhatTheHeal might be worth starting a new post in relationships for support post break up.

Susieb2023 · 12/05/2023 06:23

Sailingaround · 11/05/2023 21:23

Exactly. I don’t know why some were acting as if it’s so far fetched something untoward was going on. Hope this will make them wise up!

It’s the same posters I see on threads shouting that the OP is being controlling and unreasonable, when they’re raising concerns over their husbands new female friend, constant texting and his subsequent offish behaviour.

‘Can’t he have a new friend’ they wail! ‘You’re controlling!’

Without fail the OP comes back and says it was an affair and they scuttle off and come back to attack the next poor women.

Doing men’s gaslighting for them!

Anyway rant over, hope you’re ok @WhatTheHeal I know it must be so hard dealing with all you are right now.

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 12/05/2023 06:59

Susieb2023 · 12/05/2023 06:23

It’s the same posters I see on threads shouting that the OP is being controlling and unreasonable, when they’re raising concerns over their husbands new female friend, constant texting and his subsequent offish behaviour.

‘Can’t he have a new friend’ they wail! ‘You’re controlling!’

Without fail the OP comes back and says it was an affair and they scuttle off and come back to attack the next poor women.

Doing men’s gaslighting for them!

Anyway rant over, hope you’re ok @WhatTheHeal I know it must be so hard dealing with all you are right now.

My favourite is "Would you be bothered if the new friend were a man?"

MumOfOneAwesomeHuman · 12/05/2023 07:24

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 12/05/2023 06:59

My favourite is "Would you be bothered if the new friend were a man?"

if It’s always the same people maybe those posters are men! Trolling OPs with their incredibly male focussed misogynistic advice!

Franticbutterfly · 12/05/2023 07:51

I'm so sorry op. Wishing you all the best.

WhatTheHeal · 12/05/2023 10:33

Hi everyone, thanks so much for all the responses, it really is nice to know you have people on your side in times like this. And honestly I think it made me braver than I would’ve been doing it “alone”.

The only real update is he tried to phone me, yes really! I didn’t answer and he left a voicemail (he isn’t blocked yet as we have some stuff to sort out but he will be soon, believe me). I just sent a message basically saying texting has been fine our whole relationship so wtf was he doing calling me now? Anyway we exchanged a few messages, he’s assured me this girl is 18. He didn’t say much else, I wasn’t begging him for information, I don’t want him to have the satisfaction of thinking I care (although part of me feels I need to know the truth for closure). He hasn’t admitted to anything more than he did the first night- she’s a crazy woman and he’s some sort of (apparently random) victim, of course.

I’m angry but weirdly not very sad, not yet anyway. I almost feel a bit of a relief I think, as odd as that sounds. I’m not sure what will happen about the living situation, house is joint so technically he could come back at any time (and it wouldn’t surprise me if he did), but he says he won’t. He says he doesn’t get why I’m so angry at him when he’s done nothing wrong blah blah blah but he’s staying with family and I don’t have anyone locally so this works for now. Long term I don’t much fancy staying living here so we will see. I have the weekend now to have a proper think. Yesterday was spent finding all my ducks, and getting them in a row. Thanks for all the advice, I have ordered one of those STI test kits by post (does anyone know if these are accurate or do I need to find a clinic?), sorted all paperwork for me and the boys so it’s always with me, written out a very basic budget/finances quickly and looked at applying for UC for now while I get myself sorted.

Had a lovely evening with the boys, we ordered pizza and watched films. We ended up all sleeping downstairs with our pillows and duvets as a treat (they love that). Unfortunately their dad is away this weekend (he’d forgotten he’s having them for a few hours on Sunday, even though it’s a fairly regular occurrence- I clearly choose good men), so I’m thinking I’ll take the boys to a Travelodge for Saturday night, they’ll love that. Tell XP he needs to collect his shit Saturday afternoon/Sunday morning, not everything needs to go as I say it’s “our” house but as he’s agreed to keep away he needs to take anything he needs for now. That way the boys don’t have to see him. And I don’t have to see him. I might even use the cash he’s got in his bedside table to pay for the hotel and dinner (just kidding, I wouldn’t…)

Thank you again, I will update if I ever find out what was really going on. You’ll never know how much your support (most of you) have given me this week x

OP posts:
BritInAus · 12/05/2023 10:39

Yay! What a brave woman. Well done you for knowing your worth and putting yourself and your boys first. I wish you all the very best x

SlightlyJaded · 12/05/2023 10:41

Well done you!!

My dominant thought is that if it was simply infatuation from her, why is he so preoccupied with her age?

jelly79 · 12/05/2023 10:45

You are a warrior OP a strong mama! Go you!!

Defo use the money in the drawer and treat you and the boys! 🤣

Pegsandsunshine · 12/05/2023 10:45

SlightlyJaded · 12/05/2023 10:41

Well done you!!

My dominant thought is that if it was simply infatuation from her, why is he so preoccupied with her age?

Because if she was underage it would turn very very unpleasant for him (quite rightfully so).

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2023 10:47

@WhatTheHeal have a lovely weekend and yep, we all go around adding our stalker to our contacts with their own ringtone!!

GretaGood · 12/05/2023 10:56

Meeting · 11/05/2023 21:18

I appreciate I'm adding another post but people on this thread are so fucking selfish.

OP started this thread for help and people have literally nearly filled it up with their gossip hungry crap and begging for updates. I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't update (if there's even any space left for her on her own thread). If you want entertainment watch/read something else and stop thriving odd of someone's misery.

You must have read through to post this …….

why is your non-support for the OP of more value than the other posters.
Im sure there has been some useful info and well meant support - the OP is moving forward confidently . That’s the main thing and the thread may have helped.

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2023 10:57

Oh and yes- take that cash and get dinner.

You are a fabulous caring mum and I know it must be bloody hard work in that situation- if you do get a partner again ( and I can understand why you might be off men for a very long time if not permanently) it needs to be someone fully involved - not throwing you crumbs and dictating ludicrous stuff like 'no calls' - if anyone comes out with shit like that take it asa big red flag that they are up to something

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