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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
booboo24 · 11/05/2023 10:10

Op I'm SO so sorry to see your update. I do agree with others who have said it seems there's more to this, in that he may have been harassing your neighbour's relative, but I also believe it likely started in an affair, why else would it have come to this? (Having her number in the first place, special ring tone, neighbour being distant towards you). I'm not even touching on why you've never been 'allowed' to call him, that's just bizarre, and to be honest would have me questioning what's he's been hiding all these years.

You've done nothing to deserve or cause this, please remember that, and talk to people in real life, you've nothing to be ashamed about. Stay strong for yourself and your boys, you'll come through this, as cliche as it sounds, but keep talking, and take it a day at a time x

TuesandThursNero · 11/05/2023 10:13

How long have you been with him op?

Prettybutdumb · 11/05/2023 10:15

diddl · 11/05/2023 08:11

Not necessarily underage but certainly young.

I wonder if the damage to his car was done by an older male relative (father? uncle?) who was trying to get him to back off.

Madopause · 11/05/2023 10:16

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Madopause · 11/05/2023 10:16

Wrong thread sorry!

Madopause · 11/05/2023 10:17

But he’s a bastard op, glad you got to the bottom of it. Xxx

PinkCast · 11/05/2023 10:32

I'm so sorry@WhatTheHeal 😔
It's very tough right now, but you're better off knowing & now you can deal with it. It'll take a lot to get to the bottom of it, he'll keep lying for sure.

CherryCokeFanatic · 11/05/2023 10:40

Any news this morning OP? Found out any more about Gemma and her age?

gumball37 · 11/05/2023 10:40

He lied to your face. IMO that's the biggest issue. I couldn't be with someone who shows so little respect for me.

BeverlyHa · 11/05/2023 10:41

Unfortunately expected explanation

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/05/2023 10:42

@WhatTheHeal sorry to read your latest update

Now you know more I would ask Jill more about Gemma

Age. Where they live. How long been going on

TrustPenguins · 11/05/2023 10:48

Hope you're OK OP...

Crikeyalmighty · 11/05/2023 10:50

I'm so sorry OP- I suspect he possibly has been harassing her rather than the other way and the shit is about to hit the fan. What an idiot. You deserve someone lovely- not this unhelpful chancer

smizing · 11/05/2023 10:59

What a thread! Sorry OP.
Don't believe him calling the OW crazy etc. He's trying to put all the blame on her and looking for sympathy from you.

Pegsandsunshine · 11/05/2023 11:07

Boymama84 · 11/05/2023 06:58

I hate it when these posts have such a shitty outcome for the op

sorry for what’s happening OP stay strong you and your DC deserve much better

x

I think it is not a shitty but a very good outcome op, she's getting rir of a real piece of... from her life.

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 11:09

Mari9999 · 11/05/2023 00:41

Just read that OP's update. The story that he told sounds convoluted, but he is gone and that is probably the best solution for both of them.

Are you standing by your opinion that it's normal for a grown up to cry in the garden. denying it and then being all arsy because their partner asked if they were OK?

This doesn't happen in normal relationships.

I'm sorry OP for your update you were right to find out why he was acting so strange.

Askil · 11/05/2023 11:19

The posters that were telling OP to mind her own business, 'it's personal' and to refrain from 'gossip' are as thick as mince. That is not how couples operate.

weirdoboelady · 11/05/2023 11:25

OP, I am so sorry. This post is to help you stay strong. You see, the thing is, I don't think it matters that much whether he shagged Gemma or not. He has betrayed you in so many other ways. Not letting you ring him, for example, but she has her own ringtone. Apart from all the denials about crying, etc, your relationship with him has been built on lies and a lack of openness from his side which is - well, it's just not even the most basic friendship relationship. It does sound as if he has been thoroughly exploiting you from the very start. I'm really sad for you and hope this post doesn't upset you more, but I think you need to see what a toxic situation you are walking away from by throwing him out. Well done x

Mumofnarnia · 11/05/2023 11:27

Askil · 11/05/2023 11:19

The posters that were telling OP to mind her own business, 'it's personal' and to refrain from 'gossip' are as thick as mince. That is not how couples operate.

Exactly. I bet there are many more affairs going on than a lot of people think if they don’t think to question their partners because it’s ‘none of their business’. All this minding your own business when you are supposed to be one half of a couple is certainly not how couples should operate. Some people are so naive

NowAAT · 11/05/2023 11:31

Mumofnarnia · 11/05/2023 11:27

Exactly. I bet there are many more affairs going on than a lot of people think if they don’t think to question their partners because it’s ‘none of their business’. All this minding your own business when you are supposed to be one half of a couple is certainly not how couples should operate. Some people are so naive

I agree @Askil and @Mumofnarnia
His business IS my business.

Ferferksake · 11/05/2023 11:36

If she's young she will have been looking at him all doe-eyed. Young infatuation and he took full advantage.

He probably promised her that he'd leave you, but then said he couldn't because you were a bit crazy and claim that when he tried to mention it you threatened to go after her and her family.

She's started to realise he's taking the piss and broke the mirror. She's laid down an ultimatum or she's going to spill the beans to you (maybe because she's pregnant) so he's in floods of tears. He has a nice cozy set up and doesn't want to upset the status quo. Currently a nice relaxed home life with the freedom to act like a bachelor and play the field. He doesn't want to play house with a girl young enough to be his daughter, he only wanted to shag her.

Next door neighbour has heard you're a crazy bunny boiler so tells you to keep clear.

That all seems like the most likely scenario to me.

Get your locks changed.

Write a note to Jill and pop it through her door when she's out. Something just letting her know that after you saw him in the garden crying and then he acted odd later, you realised something was wrong, which is why you spoke to her in case he'd confided in her. After speaking to her you realised that something had been going off so you confronted him. Although you don't know exactly what was going off because he never came clean about it and told you a story about a girl called Gemma stalking him, you could tell he was lying and so you've thrown him out and he won't be coming back. Tell her you're not sure what tales he will have told about you either, but you don't care. You don't blame her and don't hold any grudges against her or her family. You won't be bothering or confronting anybody.

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 11:39

Yes. Most women would not want be shushed and told that it's not their business.

I know if I was stood in the rain in the garden crying my DH would ask why. If he didn't I would think he didn't care.

VWHoliday · 11/05/2023 11:41

@Ferferksake I agree.

Therealjudgejudy · 11/05/2023 11:43

So sorry for this outcome op

Feetinthemudandleaves · 11/05/2023 11:44

SchoolTripDrama · 11/05/2023 01:53

@Feetinthemudandleaves So because a man cried when talking to a neighbour and won't tell his partner why, that is SO bizarre to you that it 'must be fictitious' 🙄 Do you troll hunters never give up?!

It's hardly far fetched is it?! Man (very likely) has affair with neighbour and gaslights his missus about it. It's a situation MILLIONS of women have been in ffs!

I apologise if I have misjudged this. I’m certainly not a troll hunter. It just sounded like bad fiction but I wish the OP well if it is genuine.

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