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Husband been on a stag do in Marbella and a random girl has messaged me……

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Mumma2Ro · 06/05/2023 21:42

Some fake account has messaged me on instagram.
to tell me my husband paid for a prostitute when on a recent stag do in Marbella!
what the fuck do I do!?!!!!!???

OP posts:
KirstenBlest · 08/05/2023 12:24

@TheLadyofShalott1

TheLadyofShalott1 Today 11:39

As it happens, most of my posts are either long, or ridiculously long (I am hopeless at paraphrasing ☺️) so surely, you only need to see it's length, and if you wish, read a couple of lines, then when you see how boring my posts are you can just ignore them.

In the time you took to write your posts, you could have learnt how to summarise.

Starlitestarbright · 08/05/2023 12:45

TheLadyofShalott1
You're like a dog with a bone. How many times do several people need to stay drop it. Start your own thread if you want but please stop tagging me in your continued rants.

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 14:15

TheLadyofShalott1 · 08/05/2023 11:39

I am so sorry that you are embarrassing yourself by showing your almost total lack of comprehension on what has been said between me and a few other PP's on this subject, on this thread @MrsMikeDrop, but I suppose the fact that we are all anonymous saves you from the even worse embarrassment of potentially almost the whole world knowing about it 🤭

I doubt that you have the foggiest idea why I am saying this, so I will try and explain more eloquently than I have sadly managed so far:

I understand the saying
"There's no smoke without fire", very well MrsMike, which is why I asked @Starlitestarbright on about page 2 to please - I hope I was polite and used the word "please" - not use that phrase.

My question to you MrsMike, although related, was not 'what does the phrase
"There's no smoke without fire" mean, but rather

'Can you explain to me please, why/how you think that the phrase

"There's no smoke without fire"

can be, in your own words, both "very useful and relevant"?

As I said much earlier in this thread, I think that that phrase has the potential to be very dangerous. Iam going to give you an extreme example now (which I sincerely hope doesn't lead to heated discussions about my choice of example. I know it is a very emotive subject, and probably not a very good choice for an example, but I am using it in the hope that more Mumsnetters - and particularly you in this instance MrsMike - will understand what I am saying, because they can understand the scenario...

ExtremeExample:

A rumour has come to light that a paedophile has been released from prison into the area, and is being housed in a bedsit within two blocks of the local Primary School.

So the local people are - IMO obviously and quite rightly - both furious and very worried about this, especially as no name, no photo, and no actual address has accompanied this frightening news. So lots of digging (figuratively speaking), and some mild (and some not so mild) cross questioning of local councillors, and harassment of the local police force, has taken place.

At last someone manages to get a name and address; now the person they have the name and address for, moved in last week, but strangely the address is in a much nicer block of flats - or apartments, as described by Estate Agencies - than they were expecting. But the irate locals brushed off that fact - if they thought about it at all - thinking "well no-one said that only poor people were paedophiles. As the incensed locals are so upset and worried about the convicted (and time served) paedophile moving into their neighbourhood, and probably because they have also been through so much anger and fear whilst gaining the much sort after facts, some of the most hot-headed of the local population marched straight to the address, and unfortunately for the paedophile he had just got back home.

Three of the locals knocked on his door, which he opened without hesitation, as he wasn't expecting a posse. They then barged in, and beat him up, breaking one of his wrists and his thumb and index finger. They also cracked four of his ribs, one of which then punctured which led to one of his lungs deflating. They also kicked him in the head now that he was on the floor, and two of them stamped on his crotch. By this time, someone - maybe one of his neighbours - had called the police, who actually arrived very quickly, and they were dragged off him, still screaming and trying to kick him.

One hour earlier in this Extreme Example:

One of the locals arrived in a hurry at the local pub - which they were using as their unofficial headquarters - they had the news the others had been waiting for, the name and address of the suspected paedophile! They didn't have any actual proof, but the timing was right, and their informant was definite that he was a paedophile, he had heard officials talking about him. One of the other people in the pub said, shouldn't we wait until we can confirm that this is the right person, but another one, who was louder, and had more clout said "oh for fuvks sake, come on, there's no smoke without fire, let's gather the others together and get around there before he gets tipped off!"

It was later that night that the arrested locals found out that they had beaten up the new local Paediatric Surgeon at the local hospital. He had been gossiped about earlier in the day because he came with such excellent credentials, and after the local Health Authority had been searching for a replacement surgeon for over nine months. His name and photo were going to be published in the local newspaper the next day, after interviewing him earlier in the day.

It took the paediatrician over a year before his hand and wrist injuries had healed enough for him to be able to operate safely and superbly again. But he had decided anyway, not long after his attack, that actually he didn't want to live and work there anymore, and he had an orthopod friend who had moved to Audtralia who told him that his working conditions and lifestyle were brilliant over there...

Three years later:

The local hospital were still getting local surgeons in when they could, otherwise the local children had to travel over 70 miles away whenever they needed an operation, which was then often cancelled once they got there, because of bed and staff shortages. It also turned out that it was a good decision on the part of the poor paediatrician, to actually move to the other side of the world, because even after all that time, when some of the locals were talking about him, one or two of them would say:
"you know I'm glad that paediatrician didn't stay here, as I couldn't have ever trusted him, seeings how there's no smoke without fire".

My example is obviously totally made up.
But in the past - at least once in the UK - a paediatrician was mistaken for a paedophile. I fervently hope that in reality nobody was stupid enough to think, never mind say about them "there's no smoke without fire".
I never want to write/type/hear that sentence ever again. But @MrsMikeDrop I would still be grateful if you can tell me what you consider are the positives about that particular phrase? Are my lights on, but no-one is at home? I will have to ask people who know me the answer to that question.

Jesus. Is anyone actually reading this poster’s diatribes?

VisionsOfSplendour · 08/05/2023 14:37

speakout · 08/05/2023 07:08

My OH wouldn't cheat at a stag do abroad.
Because I wouldn't date a man that would consider going on a stag do.

I hope you don't split up with your partner as your pool of new partners is going to be quite small

Going on a stag do is a perfectly normal thing that surely the majority of men will do at some time in their lives. It's not synonymous with being unfaithful you know

monsteramunch · 08/05/2023 14:40

@TheLadyofShalott1

I appreciate you feel strongly about this but you're wasting your own time at this point and it's definitely best to just agree to disagree when a back and forth gets to the point yours has on this sort of thread.

Truestorypeeps · 08/05/2023 14:43

He's hardly going to say, yes I slept with a prossie, is he? I hope you get tested and maybe if you've caught something that'll be proof enough. I understand that you just don't want it to be true but...

Truestorypeeps · 08/05/2023 14:44

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 14:15

Jesus. Is anyone actually reading this poster’s diatribes?

No. Life is too short.

Noodlehen · 08/05/2023 14:56

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 08/05/2023 14:15

Jesus. Is anyone actually reading this poster’s diatribes?

I just read this intrigued what was going on, and I’m never getting that time back.

a TLDR for others;

the phrase “there’s no smoke without fire” can be very damaging, there’s an example of a paediatrician who was accused, attacked and moved to australia based off rumours.

Florenz · 08/05/2023 15:03

No paediatrician was ever mistaken for a paedophile and attacked. The story is it was a paediatrician that worked out of their home, and had a little silver name plate on the front of their house with their name and degrees and job title on it. Somebody (likely kids) scratched "paedo" on that. That was the extent of the "mistaken identity".

applebee33 · 08/05/2023 15:57

Look some people just aren't ready to explore other truths and that's ok , it sounds suspicious to be fair but can understand the lady not wanting to break her marriage up on the basis of an anon msg. Sadly I would have been like this years ago , it was always the other friends who would cheat on their partners . Until it was me. Then you really see how some men just do these things and don't think much into it , whereas they leave their partners heartbroken because of a quick dirty fumble . Hope your ok op

VivatVaginaCamilla · 08/05/2023 17:45

speakout · 08/05/2023 07:08

My OH wouldn't cheat at a stag do abroad.
Because I wouldn't date a man that would consider going on a stag do.

Neither would I. So that's at least two of us.

OhmygodDont · 08/05/2023 21:06

Honestly the message is likely from a one of the stags friends partners.

She’s likely overheard or her partner has out and out said omg I can’t believe what Steve did. She’s then either created the account herself or got a friend to do it doesn’t bite her on the arse in her own relationship.

Get tested and just keep an open ear/eye. I wouldn’t have blocked the account personally. I’d have watched it for a while.

Humanbiology · 08/05/2023 21:14

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 09/05/2023 04:56

I can't believe people saying they wouldn't date a man who went on a stag do! Seriously?
Not all stag dos involve wild partying you know.

Out of interest, would you refuse to go on a hen weekend?

countcanada22 · 09/05/2023 06:43

Mumma2Ro · 07/05/2023 11:34

Sorry it took me ages to catch up on all of the replies!
so I confronted hubby this morning…… I said to him someone messaged me on instagram saying ‘I’ve got Information about what your husband got up to in Marbella’.
he was like sorry, what ?
his reaction was genuine- and I believe him when he says it’s not true. He said you really think that little of me to believe I would sleep with a prostitute!
he said maybe one of his mates did meet these girls while they were out there, and maybe one of the guys said it as a joke ‘oh yea that big one has paid for a prostitute, the blonde one has shagged someone out here and cheated on his wife bla bla bla’
but he says it 100% is not true. None of it.
he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him.
I’ve blocked the instagram account and deleted the message. I asked for more information and if she had any real evidence ….. and she didn’t
thank you for all your replies
I’m sure there’s some comments coming about how I’m silly for believing him!

Your way too naive op

EllandRd · 09/05/2023 06:53

Mumma2Ro · 06/05/2023 21:52

The person messaging me has said she met them all out in a bar. And got talking to 2 of the boys (she mentions their names)
and she said she got lots of juicy stories out of them.
one being that my husband slept with a prostitute and that another one of their friends met a girl out there and had sex with her.
She calls my husband by his name and calls him the big guy.
but then she said she never actually met my husband….. so how would she know he was a big guy then!?

How would she know who you even were?

CoronationKicking · 09/05/2023 08:44

"My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him"

They never are when they get caught. You're believing what you want to believe because he's turned on the affronted "how dare you believe I'd do that". Standard response. His story makes no sense whatsoever

Bookworm20 · 09/05/2023 10:19

Its good you believe him. lets hope it isn't true. And of course he won't mind you being there to hear the conversation when he calls his mate to clear all this up will he?

Frazzledmummy123 · 09/05/2023 13:17

Bookworm20 above made a good point. I'd have asked him to call his friend there and then to see his reaction. If he did it and didn't look at all panicked then perhaps I'd start to think about believing him then, but with caution. Whether he is guilty or innocent, he was of course going to deny it when asked so I really don't think you are any further forward.

I'd unblock the profile who messaged you, get STI checked just in case and keep an open mind. I really hope he is innocent and this was just a silly prank or someone sh*t stirring. Good luck!

Thesharkradar · 09/05/2023 13:21

Bookworm20 · 09/05/2023 10:19

Its good you believe him. lets hope it isn't true. And of course he won't mind you being there to hear the conversation when he calls his mate to clear all this up will he?

He will have already tipped all his mates off, they will be like-minded with him and thus loyal to him.
They will have each other's backs because they all need to get away with the same stuff ....and they will be learning what techniques work best; how best to fool the misses etc, swapping tips, comparing and improving strategies.

Thesharkradar · 09/05/2023 13:33

he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him
They will have dirt on each other such that the only option is that they all keep the code of silence.
What happened in Marbella will stay in Marbella

ThankmelaterOkay · 09/05/2023 13:53

Thesharkradar · 09/05/2023 13:33

he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him
They will have dirt on each other such that the only option is that they all keep the code of silence.
What happened in Marbella will stay in Marbella

Except STIs.

KirstenBlest · 09/05/2023 14:24

I think what might have happened is that the messenger has been told the same story, and her DP said 'It wasn't me it was Bob' and the messenger decided that she should tell Bob's wife, the OP.

OP has gone. I hope she is OK.

Ontime · 09/05/2023 16:43

All his mates will lie for him and themselves. Men can be like little boys. Like I said earlier, request sight of his bank statements. That's how i found out that my ex was using prostitutes. He refused repeatedly to show them and then caved and confessed. 9 year relationship thrown away but hey ho. I should have asked for bank statements years ago I might have saved myself years of self torture if I'd thought of it back then.

Thesharkradar · 09/05/2023 17:30

ThankmelaterOkay · 09/05/2023 13:53

Except STIs.

an excellent riposte!

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